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Very, very flexible....it doesn't have to sound exactly how it did in previous Bond films. An intelligent Composer would know exactly how it should be arranged to suit Craig.
I can't really think of any scene where it would fit. It's one of Barry's most dated compositions.
How?
Disagree. It's no more dated than the original James Bond theme, and they have no issue updating that. All it takes is a bit of imagination.
Exactly. It wouldn't be difficult if they set their mind to it. It's extremely unlikely to happen of course, but it's certainly a shame.
True...such a shame.
The Bond theme and the 007 theme as duelling entities?
The royalty issue seems to be the clincher alright, which is understandable but still a pity.
I agree with this. And this:
Exactly! The essence of that tune could easily be modernised and updated. It has that energetic, rapid dramatic build-up (that could be used over any action sequence), which leads into the slower, upbeat, uplifting notes, which could be used as Bond escapes off into the sunset, on a sail, or a plane.
Now that would be awesome. If Romer did this, he would win over every single Bond fan instantly! Job done! Arnold would be instantly forgotten.
Look at Lalo Schifrin’s “The Plot” theme from the original MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE TV series. It’s a very 60s sounding piece and also has a sort of a march sound to it. Yet its inclusion in the modern M:I films doesn’t appear dated or anything like that. In fact it enhances every scene it’s in! It screams “MISSION IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!”
It’s easy to say ‘it can fit into anything and be easily updated’ but that’s not terribly convincing unless you say how! :)
I'm not even sure how to respond to a useless statement like this. As someone who has already proclaimed they are not a fan of the theme, another could write the most amazing comment in the world and you would likely remain unconvinced.
Also, I'm not a composer. I couldn't possibly say "how" I would hypothetically inject the theme into a film that hasn't been made yet. All that I could confidently say from my own love of the the theme and it's relatively straightforward structure is that a talented composer could definitely do it.
Good lord.
Exactly.
Exactly. The thing so many people seem to ignore about John Barry is that his "sound" was constantly changing and evolving.
He clearly liked working on a wide variety of films of different genres and styles and disliked being pigeonholed for the sound of his earliest Bond work.
Let's also not forget that Barry himself neglected to use it as a track in any of the three Bond scores he did after MR.
:Edit: So much of the discourse around Barry on here, reminds me of the old anecdote about the time comic book artist Jack Kirby was shown a collection of drawings by a fan which mimicked his style.
Kirby took one look and told the fan that while the drawings were very nice and he had a lot of skill, truly doing it the "Jack Kirby" style would have been for him to come up with something completely new by himself.
No worries, Mr Newman.
I'm not entirely sure if you are being jovial here or actually being serious, but I'll humour this anyway.
Have you not ever heard a tune before being modernised and updated? Have you not heard Arnold's Shaken and Stirred album, with the OHMSS track in particular?
Have you not noticed the difference between the early 60's 007 theme, compared to the 1979 updated MR version?
Have you not noticed the Bond theme being used in TLD (during the pre-credit sequence), which is very different to the 1962 version?
I'm amazed if he couldn't get the rights. Surely all Bond related material is property of EON, even Barry's work?
Thanks. I didn't know that. That is really recycling.