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I'm inclined to agree... even tho I must say I'd be pretty intrigued by the idea of Zimmer himself working on Bond.
Have you heard his Sherlock Holmes scores? So much more inventive and interesting than Balfe’s stuff if you ask me, and not just the Dark Knight stuff that everyone seems to be invoking as if that’s all he can do.
I've obviously not seen that many films recently with him scoring to hear this sound that would be totally wrong for Bond some are saying.
In the 90's and with Nolan I think HZ has produced some great scores.
I think those that don't like Nolan on here aren't going to be persuaded but I remember thinking that HZ's score for Inception had Bondian moments in there.
I think he knows that he can't just produce atmospheric aural wallpaper for this gig.
I also think some think that Zimmer will do something akin to his Batman scores which if I'm honest heighten and intensify the mood of the film but aren't what you would call toe tapping.
I can see Zimmer being much more likely to embrace the Bond theme than Newman did.
Also as this is so late in the game I can see him being given somewhat of a remit.
When he and Wallfisch were bought on late for BR2049 I think Ridley said he wanted something Vangelis like and imagine the late very much missed Jóhann Jóhannsson was likely as Romer has done not delivered the sound that EON wanted.
It will be interesting to know that Cary thinks this as well and is on the same page or this has come from the top (BB & MGW) that his sound wasn't Bondian enough.
Jóhannsson had a very distinctive and individual sound that works great on Villeneuve other films he scored and for the first series of the excellent Icelandic drama Trapped but clearly he hadn't delivered enough of the Blade Runner sound to convince the boss IE. Ridley Scott.
I imagine it can't be too long before the person who has the job is confirmed and if it is a heavyweight like Zimmer then they'll maximise this for all it is worth.
Yes, Eon had officially confirmed Romer.
You can see here if you read the press release for the title on the official site:
https://www.007.com/no-time-to-die-is-the-official-title-of-bond-25/
I feel bad for Romer. His team even had a party to celebrate him getting the job
Thanks. Oh wow that's got to hurt for them now.
Well this is all still Romer rumour, though.
To much like DAD dvd menu or boatchase from QOS.
To much DAD and at bit heavy matel.
Slower cue, stil missing something.
The better ones with also include some classic music:
Moost dark one of them, but stil with a theme.
For Casino Royale, AVTAK, TLD and QOS lovers.
Not quite! :)
"Dan Romer was the surprise name to compose the score for 'No Time To Die'. Then he wasn't. Unofficial news of his departure from the project broke in November, but it was all but confirmed this week when he was named the composer to the upcoming drama 'Wendy.' The press release listed his recent credits as Beasts of No Nation, Maniac, The Good Doctor, Atypical, and Digging for Fire. No mention of 007. He's out."
This is as close to a confirmation as it gets in regards to Romer being out.
But i can't see RCP doing it. Something feels off. That's just not how EoN operate. I think they would much rather bring a small obscure talent that barely anyone heard of than to buy run of the mill action shlock from a "Soundtrack Factory". Especially with NTTD where the crew speaks for itself. I don't think they want NTTD sounding like any other action film out right now. I think they will want to go with someone who has a bit more Prestige to his name and maybe isn't overexposed yet, especially in action. And Zimmer is all of that.
That being said, just effing call Nicholas Britell already. What's the hold up.
Yeah me neither. If I recall correctly Zimmer & Wallfisch were announced as composers less than 3 months before the film release and Zimmer spent only 10 days working on it.
Correct, and weren't even announced formally as so much as Villeneuve happening to mention them replacing Johann in an interview. They weren't officially officially acknowledged until the final posters dropped in September.
Ooh okay I’d not seen that: that is all a bit fishy isn’t it! :) Sounds like a lot of smoke now in need of a fire.
You’d think they’d have to go to an established name now that can reliably do it quickly. But yes, agreed above that surely Zimmer doesn’t have great big gaps in his schedule.
So could we be looking at a Zimmer overseen but mostly Wallfisch crafted score? Or at least a similar approach with Zimmer and another protegé? Not too much that it would require him to do too much work but enough to put his name on it?
It's nice to see Arnold working with Eon in an official capacity again.
This is the one part of the story from @MI6 that I'm unsure of.
They claim that David Arnold is 'supervising music' on 'The Rhythm Section'.....I can't see any evidence of this.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7134096/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast
In fact, on 'The Rhythm Section's IMDB they have Steve Mazzaro (from Remote Control) listed as the composer. Then, Hans Zimmer as executive music producer and Lorne Balfe as additional music composer.
No David Arnold. 'The Rhythm Section' is a Remote Control production musically, why would Arnold figure into this? He isn't in Zimmer's squad.
I think we are getting a Hans Zimmer score for NTTD - perhaps with an underling like Mazzaro, Balfe or Wallfisch.
That's what I'm thinking. They'll want Zimmer's name on this I think. There's been no indication aside from it supposedly not being Balfe who'd that other person be - Wallfisch or someone else. Just mentioned him because Blade Runner.
Music Supervisor is an entirely different department to Music Composition, with a different mandate. Not going to go out on a limb and say it's one hundred percent true, but as a music supervisor might not even have direct contact with a composer, the fact that it's an all-Zimmer squad for the score doesn't make it untrue.
Aye, don't worry. I know why you made the comparison. I think you're on to something there. Zimmer's name on top as a selling point, with the other person doing the majority of the work.
Which is kind of screwed up. What is RCP's pricing model? For xx amount of dollars you get Balfe, but if you throw in xxxx amount of dollars, Hans Zimmer will drag his ass in the Studio and write 2-3 cues on top so you can put his name on the cover? :))
I don't see this happening. Hans is a legend but this ghostwriting business is weird. I will wait for official confirmation before i jump to conclusions.
I know it’s not quite the same thing, but I think it worked really well for Solo with Williams doing the theme and Powell composing the actual score. I’d love to hear how Zimmer would approach Bond, even if he doesn’t do all of the leg work himself.
That's not how it works, no...
.....this is more how it works.
It used to be a shared responsibility for each composer, including Zimmer, way back when it was Media Ventures. Since Zimmer became the top dog at RCP after he split with Media Ventures, he's operated as a Score "Producer" as much as he has been a "Composer", hence why he has been accused of having a monopoly on it. But, he's given a lot of great composers their start and many of them have gone on to do their own thing outside of RCP, so it's not all bad.
Hiring "new blood" that is a prestige name is way more important than hiring someone who cares. You know this. ;)
I think it would a stretch to say John Williams doesn’t care about Star Wars! :D