NO TIME TO DIE (2021) - Discuss Hans Zimmer's Score

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  • Posts: 6,709
    He just has to find out about the 007 theme and have a go at it finally.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    Zimmer remix of the M:I theme back in 2000 was excellent. Plus, one of his padawans did a good job too in the last one. No need to worry. With all the respect in the world, I would've been far more concerned with a Dan Romer score, since his background and lack of experience with bombastic blockbusters. He never seemed the right profile to score the epic culmination of a 15 years Bond arc. Zimmer is.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    I will take Zimmer over Romer 10 out of 10 times.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    matt_u wrote: »
    This is epic....

    (I think Zimmer will do a variation of his Batman scores for Bond - after all, Batman/Bruce Wayne is basically the American James Bond.)


    This 30 minutes piece of music is the best thing ever happened to a superhero film. Zimmer at his prime.


    5.30 onwards is sublime, I must say. I was glad they used that particular version for the end credits of BvS.
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    Hans Zimmer is like a McDonalds burger. Makes you happy for a short moment, gives you a sugar rush - but seldomly more. When you wake up the next day, you won't remember this interesting culinary experience that you had last night. You won't broaden your horizon - but you also won't be disappointed.
    Looking forward to being proven wrong.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited January 2020 Posts: 4,343
    matt_u wrote: »
    This is epic....

    (I think Zimmer will do a variation of his Batman scores for Bond - after all, Batman/Bruce Wayne is basically the American James Bond.)


    This 30 minutes piece of music is the best thing ever happened to a superhero film. Zimmer at his prime.


    5.30 onwards is sublime, I must say. I was glad they used that particular version for the end credits of BvS.

    Yeah, right after the dirt floating end. Perfection.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    matt_u wrote: »
    This is epic....

    (I think Zimmer will do a variation of his Batman scores for Bond - after all, Batman/Bruce Wayne is basically the American James Bond.)


    This 30 minutes piece of music is the best thing ever happened to a superhero film. Zimmer at his prime.
    Danny Elfman's Spider-Man score: hold my spiderweb
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,217
    Walecs wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    This is epic....

    (I think Zimmer will do a variation of his Batman scores for Bond - after all, Batman/Bruce Wayne is basically the American James Bond.)


    This 30 minutes piece of music is the best thing ever happened to a superhero film. Zimmer at his prime.
    Danny Elfman's Spider-Man score: hold my spiderweb

    Danny Elfman's Batman: Hold my cowl.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Walecs wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    This is epic....

    (I think Zimmer will do a variation of his Batman scores for Bond - after all, Batman/Bruce Wayne is basically the American James Bond.)


    This 30 minutes piece of music is the best thing ever happened to a superhero film. Zimmer at his prime.
    Danny Elfman's Spider-Man score: hold my spiderweb

    Danny Elfman's Batman score: hold my limited edition McDonald's Batman glass mug.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    Walecs wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    This is epic....

    (I think Zimmer will do a variation of his Batman scores for Bond - after all, Batman/Bruce Wayne is basically the American James Bond.)


    This 30 minutes piece of music is the best thing ever happened to a superhero film. Zimmer at his prime.
    Danny Elfman's Spider-Man score: hold my spiderweb

    Danny Elfman's Batman score: hold my limited edition McDonald's Batman glass mug.

    Danny Elfman's Josstice League: hold my beer.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    John Williams’ Superman score: Hold my red booties
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    None of those are too shabby :)
  • DoctorKaufmannDoctorKaufmann Can shoot you from Stuttgart and still make it look like suicide.
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Unfortunately @DarthDimi, I've yet to hear any Zimmer score with a theme, let alone remember one. :(
    Thanks, @Murdock. Exactly my problem. And regarding another posting a while back: The original Pirates of the Caribbean score was attributed to Klaus Badelt...whatever the role of Hans Zimmer was in that. And yes, the score was good for that kind of movie. I just fail to find anything similarly defining for any (other) Zimmer movie. His stuff is just bland.

    But Zimmer did compose the Main Theme for Pirates, as far as I'm aware. He just didn't do the bulk of the score.

    Plus the Dan Brown movie trilogy, in all of them, there is the "Chevaliers de Sangreal" theme.







    Just my two cents.
  • DoctorKaufmannDoctorKaufmann Can shoot you from Stuttgart and still make it look like suicide.
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    And here is Calvin Dyson's reaction towards Zimmer:


  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited January 2020 Posts: 4,585
    If memory serves, Zimmer came on board BR 2049, replacing Johan Johansson, just three months prior to release of the film. That score turned out pretty well, imho.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited January 2020 Posts: 8,217
    matt_u wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    This is epic....

    (I think Zimmer will do a variation of his Batman scores for Bond - after all, Batman/Bruce Wayne is basically the American James Bond.)


    This 30 minutes piece of music is the best thing ever happened to a superhero film. Zimmer at his prime.
    Danny Elfman's Spider-Man score: hold my spiderweb

    Danny Elfman's Batman score: hold my limited edition McDonald's Batman glass mug.

    Danny Elfman's Josstice League: hold my beer.

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  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Unfortunately @DarthDimi, I've yet to hear any Zimmer score with a theme, let alone remember one. :(
    Thanks, @Murdock. Exactly my problem. And regarding another posting a while back: The original Pirates of the Caribbean score was attributed to Klaus Badelt...whatever the role of Hans Zimmer was in that. And yes, the score was good for that kind of movie. I just fail to find anything similarly defining for any (other) Zimmer movie. His stuff is just bland.

    But Zimmer did compose the Main Theme for Pirates, as far as I'm aware. He just didn't do the bulk of the score.

    Plus the Dan Brown movie trilogy, in all of them, there is the "Chevaliers de Sangreal" theme.







    Just my two cents.

    Nothing wrong with any of those, though I think Inferno's score was more than a tad weaker in comparison with the other two.
  • Jesus, that guy with the bow tie's annoying.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited January 2020 Posts: 4,585
    Some posts have already provided examples of Zimmer at his best. Here is some more of his better work, often overlooked:

  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    THE ROCK is really the best unofficial Bond film about Connery Bond if he were captured in the 60s by the FBI. His character background is pretty much exactly like Bond's aside from his rank (Captain instead of Commander).

    Ironically, both The Russia House and Rising Sun (one of the weirdest films I have ever seen) have sigbnificant Bond elements.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Unfortunately @DarthDimi, I've yet to hear any Zimmer score with a theme, let alone remember one. :(
    Thanks, @Murdock. Exactly my problem. And regarding another posting a while back: The original Pirates of the Caribbean score was attributed to Klaus Badelt...whatever the role of Hans Zimmer was in that. And yes, the score was good for that kind of movie. I just fail to find anything similarly defining for any (other) Zimmer movie. His stuff is just bland.

    But Zimmer did compose the Main Theme for Pirates, as far as I'm aware. He just didn't do the bulk of the score.

    Plus the Dan Brown movie trilogy, in all of them, there is the "Chevaliers de Sangreal" theme.







    Just my two cents.

    Ooh yes I forgot that one. That is one that I find genuinely to be one of my favourites: that's a cracking bit of music.
  • edited January 2020 Posts: 5,767
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    @boldfinger, the thing is, Romer isn't an intrinsic action Composer by any means. It shows in his 'Far Cry' game score which is an action game. Although, I like his 'Beasts Of No Nation score'(I think it's his best score yet). But you can still find him there struggling with action music. Romer is more like Newman... he's more comfortable with drama films & once Wendy is released, am sure Romer would shine with that score. The thing is, once a non-action Composer scores an action film, some of the tracks can turn out to be quite noisy. Like Newman's 'Tempus Fugit' & Snow Plane'. I've heard a lot of Romer's scores....he's not comfortable with action music. For me the only action track that he excels a bit, is the track 'Free Of All Desire' from his Far Cry Score.
    Ah, I see, I wasn't aware he had scored an action game. Thanks.


    xolani wrote: »
    Hans Zimmer is like a McDonalds burger. Makes you happy for a short moment, gives you a sugar rush - but seldomly more. When you wake up the next day, you won't remember this interesting culinary experience that you had last night. You won't broaden your horizon - but you also won't be disappointed.
    Looking forward to being proven wrong.
    Very much my sentimets too!
    Except I'm a bit afraid of the volume of the music in the theater. Maybe somewhat analoguous to a slight feeling of uncomfort in my stomach after that burger ;-).



    Most people seem to judge a film score according to single tracks, so of course they will be happy with Zimmer. I'm not worried that there won't be any good track, I'm certain there will be a few amazing ones. The reason I'm against Zimmer and his cohorts is that I can't think of one single film score by anyone of the bunch that doesn't sink in boredom along the way, no matter how cracking some single tracks might be.
    Marc Streitenfeld might be an exception. His score for Prometheus was pretty good, and Robin Hood wasn't bad too.
  • Quite a change from Romer to the world's most famous current film composer! I personally wanted Justin Hurwitz to do the scoring duties, but I have no doubt Zimmer will do fine. Hoping to catch one of his live concerts if he makes it to North America.
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    I was looking forward to Gerald Fried taking up the baton.
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    xolani wrote: »
    Hans Zimmer is like a McDonalds burger. Makes you happy for a short moment, gives you a sugar rush - but seldomly more. When you wake up the next day, you won't remember this interesting culinary experience that you had last night. You won't broaden your horizon - but you also won't be disappointed.
    Looking forward to being proven wrong.

    Outside the legendary likes of Williams, Goldsmith, Morricone and (of course) Barry, isn't that the same for most modern soundtracks these days? Its the current sad state of Hollywood, with its mindless action CGI, super hero Marvel fest, and the unimaginative soundtracks that accompany them go hand-in-hand.

    I think the best of the modern day composers is Zimmer. He is as good as it gets right now, and is capable of creating decent tunes. The rest of the composers these days are unfortunately the likes of Romer - good at banging out atmos crap that can accompany the latest Marvel fest, or Netflix drama.

    Those bygone golden days of proper composed and orchestrated soundtracks, with strong themes are long gone. Zimmer is all that is left.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    xolani wrote: »
    Hans Zimmer is like a McDonalds burger. Makes you happy for a short moment, gives you a sugar rush - but seldomly more. When you wake up the next day, you won't remember this interesting culinary experience that you had last night. You won't broaden your horizon - but you also won't be disappointed.
    Looking forward to being proven wrong.

    Outside the legendary likes of Williams, Goldsmith, Morricone and (of course) Barry, isn't that the same for most modern soundtracks these days? Its the current sad state of Hollywood, with its mindless action CGI, super hero Marvel fest, and the unimaginative soundtracks that accompany them go hand-in-hand.

    I think the best of the modern day composers is Zimmer. He is as good as it gets right now, and is capable of creating decent tunes. The rest of the composers these days are unfortunately the likes of Romer - good at banging out atmos crap that can accompany the latest Marvel fest, or Netflix drama.

    Those bygone golden days of proper composed and orchestrated soundtracks, with strong themes are long gone. Zimmer is all that is left.

    I agree but also disagree. There still are scores out there that hit hard. Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross have been doing some tremendous work the past decade, and I think they are better than Zimmer. Hilda Gudnadottir's work on Joker was stellar, as well.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited January 2020 Posts: 4,247
    Yeah, true....I think Reznor & Ross have such a telepathic understanding that they always come with good scores....but i don't know if they're better than Zimmer though....although their Social Network score is so good & unique....same as Gone Girl. And true, Hildur's score works very well in the Joker movie....but I don't know if it works as a listening experience, coz I tried it a few times & i couldn't live with it.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited January 2020 Posts: 16,413
    xolani wrote: »
    Hans Zimmer is like a McDonalds burger. Makes you happy for a short moment, gives you a sugar rush - but seldomly more. When you wake up the next day, you won't remember this interesting culinary experience that you had last night. You won't broaden your horizon - but you also won't be disappointed.
    Looking forward to being proven wrong.

    See that’s where I’m at with Arnold, which is why I find so many requests for his return a bit puzzling. A hummable tune occasionally but thin stuff over all. For me, Zimmer has shown many times he can actually conjure a bit of power behind his music if he needs and I’d say folks have posted quite a few examples of that in this thread over the last day or so.
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    I’m excited about Zimmer finally being behind a Bond film. I suggested his team back in the Casino Royale days. I like the Batman soundtracks for the most part.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    I never thought of Zimmer as a bad composer, though he can be a bit generic in my opinion. I was rather hoping for something more experimental and with that in mind I quite liked the original choice of Dan Romer.
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