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Listen, I like Zimmer as a composer, and I hope he does a good job with NTTD. And if it's good, I'd like him to return. If Christopher Nolan ever makes a Bond film, Zimmer would be the number one go-to guy.
But I have never, ever, ever heard Zimmer was the heir apparent. Never. Yes, some of the fan base have been clamouring for him to do the music one day, but not a single person who's involved with making the Bond films has ever said anything along the lines of "We'd like to have him". So it's not clear how long Zimmer's been on EON's wish list, or if he even was on there to begin with.
You can say Nolan is kinda the heir apparent when it comes to the director's chair, as we know that he himself might like it, EON thinks highly of him, has met with him to discuss things and he might very well come back into the conversation for Bond 26.
But Zimmer? There's nothing that points to EON trying to actively get him for the gig, let alone EON trying to get Zimmer to finally get rid of Arnold, as you're suggesting.
As far as we know, Arnold is still close to members of the Bond family, and EON isn't the company to just unceremoniously dump anyone.
And when Bond 26 comes around, there are a lot of factors that come into play. Zimmer could very well come back for the next one, as long as he wants to, EON liked his scoring on NTTD and wants him back, and he's available. Same goes for Arnold: he'll be back if he's available and if EON wants him. And it also depends on the director: whoever directs Bond 26 could bring his/her own familiar composer to the fold, too.
But Bond 26 is a long way off. Nothing is certain. But let us now first enjoy the road to NTTD and the film itself, shall we?
The only concern I have with Zimmer being made a permanent fixture is the Bond soundtrack no longer being a unique piece when compared to other action films, as everything Zimmer touches can start to sound similar when it comes to the action genre.
And lets face it, there isn't much left in Hollywood that doesn't have the Zimmer stamp on.
At least when Barry was at the helm, the Bond scores were truly unique when compared to everything else at that time, and you could say arguably that Arnold continued that fashion too (if you ignore the techno action pieces he occasionally wrote). Arnold tried to create a Bond score that sounded like a Bond score, which ultimately meant it sounded like John Barry.
I cannot see Zimmer giving us a Barry sounding track, but instead another Zimmer sounding track. For many here that may be a good thing, but in the long run I'm not so sure. I don't want Bond sounding just like every other film out there.
It was before, but given that it was a cover album I don’t think that interested EON in him as a composer, which is why the Grammy winning ID4 album caught their interest instead.
I'm not sure where you get your info from that Zimmer has been the heir apparent for a long while. By who? EON? The fans?
And where do you get your inside info from that Arnold will never return? Or is that more wishful thinking on your part...
Why? What a clown.
Source?
I’m fairly sure I remember they got to hear Shaken and Stirred early (it wasn’t released long before TND as I remember) and that sealed the deal for them. Did Barry even recommend him based on having to okay the tracks from the album? I’m not sure. Long ago! :)
Well, wait for some evidence to back that up first! :)
Actually at the recent Q&A for TWINE at the BFI as part of James Bond Day, Arnold did say that he likes to think it was Shaken and Stirred, and getting Barry's blessing for that.
I'm sure in reality it was probably both that sealed the deal for him.
I'm trying to find the appropriate quotes, but currently I've only found this, from a review of the SF score:
"Because it was completed late in the production process, Newman's score could only utilize the theme in "Komodo Dragon," which was reportedly recorded after the rest of the score to specifically make at least one token reference to the song in Newman's contribution."
I can’t imagine it hurt that he’d rewritten big suites of Bond orchestral stuff for that album! :) Something like Play Dead likely didn’t make them think he was unsuitable either.
Thanks for sharing a fact.
Didn't knew that thanks
If that's true, then there's still no reason to not include more of Smith's song into SP as that was recorded in January of 2015 at the start of filming. I just don't think he wanted to use anything that wasn't his own work. Oh well. Will always love TN as a composer, just not really for Bond
I also wouldn't count David Arnold out just yet for future productions..
But it was indeed included no matter how much duration in the train scene briefly.
Found this video of zimmer, not a fan of his score from TDK but enjoyed this one.
That would be excellent, IMO. Horns, brass, strings, piano.
That doesn’t prove that he never wanted to include title songs on his scores. That’s just fan speculation.
And like I said, agree to disagree, I'm glad you are excited (and who knows I might be surprised with what he does).. But I've always considered Zimmer the McDonalds of film music.
You're assuming he's only just begun work on NTTD, and regardless, 4 months is how much time Zimmer had for BR2049.
You're absolutely correct, I am assuming.. That's all there is to do is assume. Lol.