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Excellent post. I fully agree. It's unbelievable that fans are moaning about his appointment. He's an absolute gift to the franchise. This will score will be phenomenal.
Exactly....Zimmer's scores are like movies of their own. That's why he's as popular as a film director....coz his scores are almost palpable, so it makes the listener curious to know more about the Composer. And true, I don't think John Williams is that consistent....I only like few of his scores. Sometimes I even forget he composed that lovely Harry Potter theme.
What I find unbelievable is how many people lift such a mediocre film music producer on such a high podest.
Don't forget Star Wars, Superman, Raiders, E.T, Jaws, Jurassic Park, Schindlers List, JFK and so many more.
Not consistent? I mean really...?
Why not? I think the fact that they ditched Romer for not being Bond enough is reason enough to assume that they want this film to be as Bondian as possible.
Yeah, what am saying is, I don't like all his scores....and I don't like all his tracks from the scores i like. I like his jaw's theme obviously, Star wars(a bit), Raiders, Temple of Doom, Last Crusade, Crystal Skull, Saving private Ryan, Schindler's List(even if it's almost repetitive), The Patriot. If am buying a Zimmer score, I don't think twice....but to me a John Williams' score could easily be Hit or Miss.
We don't know anything about his approach yet. What we do know is, that he often changes his approach. He experiments with sounds, instruments, the way they are recorded, etc. from movie to movie. His last five major scores (Lion King, Blade Runner 2049, Dunkirk, Inferno, Dawn of Justice) sound nothing alike. It takes more than a "mediocre" composer to make a simple ticking clock (!) an integral part of the score, like he did in Dunkirk, for example, where he also made a track that worked extremely well, by only using one simple note (!) (using 'the Shepard tone'):
What I mean with his approach doesn´t change is that no matter in what direction he goes, and I don´t question his ability to sound all kinds of ways, is that he still uses unsophisticated compositions and arrangements, he doesn´t all of a sudden apply musical depth like a classically trained composer, one can still hear that the emotional effect is calculated more than heartfelt. He uses all kinds of music production tricks to compensate for his lack of classical orchestra knowledge, he uses things like layering those Brraamm horns endlessly, or using ten drummers at once, in order to compensate, but that doesn´t change the basics he´s using, no matter what sound he goes for. And no, he´s not always layering parts a hundred times when he´s doing softer tracks, but he still applies the same basics. That is not biased, that is simple observation.
What kind of sense is such a statement supposed to make?
First, you have no way of knowing if any parts of SP´s score would be recycled again. What makes you think Newman would ape Mendes and recycle music tracks? What reason is there to think like that?
Second, why should any of this be a reason for excitement over Zimmer´s appointment?
+1.
I have the feeling that EON approved Romer only because that would make Fukunaga happy and they really wanted him on board but then he was ditched because he's not a popular composer like Newman or Zimmer.
And knowing that he changes his approach from movie to movie, you are still claiming this?
Your other observation.... that he is "mediocre." That's like trying to argue that Joaquin Phoenix is a mediocre actor, IMO.
Zimmer is universally praised in the entire industry for his skills, ingenuity, composing etc, but of course there will always be some haters out there.
About that one note. It was the Joker-motif I had in mind, btw. Wrong video. My bad.
Yeah, Coz I like Zimmer's work....and since Zimmer was announced, the news has really gone down well with a huge percentage of Bond & Movie fans. I've heard several people saying 'Oh! My!....Hans Zimmer is scoring the next James bond film....I can't wait'. And It's just a feeling I had, that if Newman scored NTTD....he would have most likely thrown in majority of SP's score in it. Can you blame me for thinking like that?. But thankfully, we're not going to witness that.
"Zimmer is universally praised in the entire industry for his skills, ingenuity, composing etc". Where is that, except in promotion clips where everybody praises everybody else? Look, I get it, a lot of people from the audience like his music, and as I´ve said numerous times before, I don´t have a problem with that.
I know what you mean, although to be honest I think that sort of thing might actually be quite appropriate for a Bond movie! Big and brassy and enthusiastically slightly OOT and epically dramatic- that’s pretty right for a Bond, I’d say. With a bit of a tweak perhaps but it’s along the right lines (there are quite a few dramatic moments given big ‘braam’ish moments in Sherlock Holmes, but not in quite the same way as a Nolan film).
Fingers crossed, yeah. It almost doesn't seem that far away.
"Quentin Tarantino hails Hans Zimmer score as defining film soundtrack of the decade"
https://www.nme.com/en_au/news/film/quentin-tarantino-hails-hans-zimmer-score-as-defining-film-soundtrack-of-the-decade-2593065
"‘Trust the maestro’: Ron Howard on having ultra-confident Hans Zimmer compose the music to ‘Inferno'"
https://www.classicfm.com/radio/shows-presenters/saturday-night-movies/15-october-2016/
Why would directors like Ridley Scott, Denis Villeneuve, Nolan etc - the cream of the crop - choose Zimmer as composer over another, if he is "mediocre" as you put it?
Correct, they premiered on BBC Radio at 9am in the morning. I remember it being the first thing I listened to in work. I had it blaring quite loudly in the studio!
https://www.nme.com/news/music/exclusive-johnny-marr-to-team-up-with-hans-zimmer-for-james-bond-no-time-to-die-score-2598058?amp&__twitter_impression=true
Confirmation that God exists
I predicted this!!!!
Very cool!
On that note (pun intended):