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I have to remember to not read the writing under these pics and to merely look at the latter. :)
I'd say my own worries stem from how woke this Bond movie will go. We're seeing it now with the current Terminator: Dark Fate, which is getting negative feedback not helped by director Tim Miller labelling anyone critical of his movie as a misogynistic internet troll, forgetting that the previous Terminator series had a very strong female lead character played by Linda Hamilton which the so-called misogynists were perfectly happy with. We're also talking about a movie starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, who has an off-screen reputation as a bit of a misogynist himself. It's my understanding that the backlash of Dark Fate doesn't stem from men not liking a female strong lead, but by killing off John Conner early in the movie and replacing him with a Mary Sue character. It seems the current political flavour of Hollywood is to make their big budget movies all about female empowerment and diversity, at the same time writing any white guy as a dolt, while ignoring the concept of delivering a good story that strikes a balance, as did the original two Terminator movies. Even the third managed to do that. The thing that I'm really surprised about by Miller's outburst was Hollywood doesn't seem to have learned anything from Paul Feig when he said exactly the same thing in support of his own gargantuan Ghostbusters (2016) flop. Fast-forward to flops such as Men In Black: International virtue-signalling with it's person-in-black, etc, and Dark Phoenix's “the women are always saving the men around here. You might want to think about changing the name to X-Women” and you already have a recipe for disaster.
I don't have a crystal ball so I can't say whether Dark Fate will be a box office hit or a dud, but the portents certainly indicate it's another ticking BO time bomb, especially as Miller seems determined to alienate the original core fanbase. Of course, time will tell, but who is going to be interested in this movie apart from its core fans?
So how does that translate to B25? I don't have enough information on this movie to say which way it will go yet, but with the current Hollywood trend to commit harry carry by continuing down this path of self-destruction, it could seep into B25 and tarnish its end product. Again, I don't know, but I'd lie if I didn't think it was a concern.
LeChiffre, kill Bond cause Daddy didn't love me.
Greene, kill Bond cause Daddy didn't love me.
Silva, kill M cause it will make Bond sad because my Daddy loved him more than me.
The ONLY thing it answers, imo, is how Silva had an army at his disposal.
Even a single cheeky reference to it will be too much.
I think Bond himself blocked the whole brother thing out of his mind because he started calling him ESB immediately after the drill scene.
Wrong.
Blofeld explicitly says that he started his path to “destroy” Bond’s world only AFTER Bond started to interfere with his business, that always came first for him. Blofeld never searched directly for Bond. He was Bond that given his work crossed paths with him, forcing Blofeld to sadistically toy with this guy the hated when he was young.
Nowhere is implied that LeChiffre wants Bond dead because of his past with Blofeld. Neither Greene. He was just interfering with SPECTRE business and they wanted him dead for the same reasons any other villain wanted Bond dead. Regarding Silva, HE was the one who wanted M dead. Blofeld just gave Silva the resources to fulfill his vengeance in order to gain a double victory. Having Vesper and M dead were always consequences, in the case of Vesper even indirect because she committed suicide knowing SPECTRE would’ve killed her anyway, of a bigger master plan driven by business. Nowhere having them killed was the MAIN purpose from Blofeld’s perspective.
All this drama regarding the foster brother angle has been blown out of proportions by many people inhere. Actually, there are tons of Bond villains of the past with even more ridiculous motivations. Like a fan favorite like Alec, who searched revenge towards the Brits just because during the WW2 his race was betrayed. Come on. Or Silva, because “mommy was really bad”.
People seems to forget that most of Blofeld’s actions were done just for business. Toying with Bond was just a creepy collateral damage of bigger events.
Anyway, regarding 25 they don’t need retcon anything, since the “shadowy author of Bond’s pain” plot has already been closed in SP. So it doesn’t even makes sense to mention it.
Yeah, this is what I was thinking. I'm sure Waltz will atleast go to the effort to exude something unique in his performance this time around. It makes no sense for him to not to.
I just hope the scene doesn't come across too much like that other movie.
What? They killed off John Connor?! Yeah, unfortunately we live in a society now where "girl power" must be rammed down our throats.
I just hope the title is something that has some creativity and some Fleming touch. Enough with Die in the title. Lets see something that truly reflects Bond.
It's something I've thought about. Maybe the less interesting ones will have little screentime.
Black people have all the opportunities everyone else does. But STEALING roles from white people is wrong. Would you be okay with Shaft being played by a white guy? Or Wonder Woman played by a Mexican man? Why is that any different than race-bending roles originally created as white?
No, ST is not about SJW. It's about exploring the universe as one species and that humanity is no longer concerned with race, identity politics, etc. Now it's the opposite. The left is absolutely obsessed with race, gender, and specific traits people have no power over to change in themselves. For ST, those things didn't matter; people are people and anyone can do anything. The modern world (mainly due to liberals) has skewed this idea into being the focus of everything.
Bond 25 will be woke and go down this path. All evidence points this way.
Well said.
Shaft is false equivalency. Him being African-American is a vital component to his character’s upbringing. There’s no inherent story reason for Leiter or Moneypenny to be white people (in fact, I don’t think Moneypenny’s skin color was ever addressed by Fleming, make that of what you will), so they’re much more flexible. Much like how it was no issue to cast a white guy in a part that was originally played by a black man in BATTLESTAR GALACTICA because the character’s race was never really a vital component. Dench’s M was a new character altogether, so there was no reason for that role to only be played by a male actor.
You may need to rewatch Trek, because it’s much more left leaning than you may want to admit, especially TNG. And racial issues was delved into plenty, but not among humans as their hang ups with each other were over with. The only issue of past Trek was the curious exclusion of LGTB characters, but at least now they have a place in the future of Trek.
There’s a quote I like from Waller-Bridges when discussing what a Bond film in the #MeToo era would be like
“the important thing is that the film treats the women properly. He doesn’t have to. He needs to be true to his character”
Bond FILMS can be more progressive as time moves forward, but the Bond character will always be Bond. Except for the smoking part, I guess.
Then why change their race/gender other than to pander?