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  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
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    Regardless of anyone's personal view that Craig should have left, or is only doing it for the money, or is 'reluctant' to do it, the fact is he IS playing Bond in B25.
    So how about everybody stops bleating and acting like petulant four year olds and starts looking forward to what we are actually about to be delivered?
    I'm getting mightily sick and tired of entitled cry babies banging on about Craig's deficiencies/flaws and putting forward other names - Cavill, Turner et al - as if they would be some sort of 'fantasy' casting and thinking that all would be perfect with them in the role.
    Well, I've got news for you - they wouldn't be perfect and there would still be issues with the production and/or the finished movie, even with one of these fan-boy wet dreams in the role.
    Craig has been magnificent in the role, despite the deficiencies in a couple of his entries (SP being the most glaring), and it's unlikely we'll get another actor of his calibre as Bond for the foreseeable future.
    So why not be grateful for what we have, while we have it - and stop throwing our rattles out of the pram every time it appears the production doesn't appear to be heading the way we like (cos, guess what - we're not making the film, other people are, so get over it and get over yourselves) .

    The title of the thread is asking whether any of us have concerns about Bond 25 and i answered honestly.You may disagree and thats fine but how about not calling people who disagree with your opinion '' petulant four year olds '' because by doing that, YOU are the one who comes across as '' bleating '' and '' throwing rattles out of your prams ''.

    The fact is that the production of this film has been very tumultous with an unprecedented almost five year gap between Bond movies ( Not counting the legal issues between LTK and GE ).The creators had the perfect opportunity to move on,recast,and start fresh but after all this time,they are racing to finish this movie on time without a completed script or even title.

    I would tell you to '' get over it '' but that would be childish.

    I'm not going to get into an argument with you regarding your comments (which you are entitled to) - save to say that everybody is entitled to an opinion, but when an expressed 'opinion' skews into wish-fulfilment (eg, wishing Craig had moved on and the role had been recast - when he hasn't and the role is still patently his - or that the five-year gap had never happened) it has nothing to do with 'legitimate concerns' about B25 (unless it is because there is a fear that Craig may now be too 'old' to convincingly execute the action-intensive scenes, perhaps - which would be a legitimate concern).
    Oh, and for avoidance of doubt I never stated anybody who disagreed with my opinions - and certainly not you individually - was 'bleating' or 'petulant', merely stating that in my opinion there appeared to be a lot of said bleating and petulance present on this thread. To personalise it (which I didn't in my comment) by stating that I personally come across as throwing MY rattle out of the pram and passively-aggressively implying my comments about people getting over themselves were 'childish' is uncalled for - particularly as I qualified my earlier statements with a later, conciliatory post (which you obviously did not read).
    I, for one, am full of confidence - Craig in situ, an interesting plot-line being finessed by a talented writer, an acclaimed up and coming director on board and filming progressing nicely - what's there to be concerned about right now? 🤔
    Now, moving on - and again at the risk of repeating myself - I look forward to hearing other people's concerns - or lack thereof - regarding the Daniel Craig-starring B25 (title TBA) 👍

    You must have an interesting definition of filming progressing nicely.Craig getting injured and an accidental explosion which ripped through a wall that could have killed people is hardly progressing nicely!

    There have been worse accidents in past Bond films. I can think of that one incident where a fragment of a smoke grenade to into Halle Berry’s eye and she had to go straight to emergency surgery.
    A stuntman suffering career ending injuries and a stunt driver veering off the road into Lake Como on QOS comes to mind. Not to mention a car accident that seriously injured veteran crew members on SP. The whole "cursed production" narrative is played out every single time a new Bond film is being made.

    There was a stuntman killed in the bobsled sequence in FYEO, and let's not forget Martin Grace nearly ending his career in the train set piece in OP!

    Exactly! Fans (and most especially the largely uniformed tabloid media) really need to get things in perspective when looking at the production of Bond 25. I was thinking of the stuntman death from FYEO that you mentioned. As far as I'm aware that is the only death to ever have occurred during the making of a James Bond film.

    There was the suicide of Pedro Armendariz.

    Yes, I suppose so though that was after the filming of his scenes had wrapped on FRWL after they were moved forward so he could film them before he succumbed to his illness. In that sense, it wasn't actually a death that occurred on the set of a Bond film, but off stage as it were.

    He didn't wanted his family to waste his hard earned money on his last few days. It was very emotional in the documentary.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    Loque and Bibi’s skating instructor,Brink,both committed suicide after FYEO finished,but again not during the shoot.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited July 2019 Posts: 18,348
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Loque and Bibi’s skating instructor,Brink,both committed suicide after FYEO finished,but again not during the shoot.

    Yes, they both committed suicide in the early 1990s.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    Young girl on the lake.

    If she’s not a young Madeleine in a flashback then the movie makes no sense. I thought it was obvious that they were casting a young Madeline when the leaks hit and set photos/video.

    I’m really hoping Bond or Madeleine doesn’t have a kid.

    The thought of someone else having the 00 title also bothers me.


    I don’t think it will happen but also a weird feeling that bond will pass the torch and then she gets a solo film.

    There’s a lot of rumors that don’t sit well.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,511
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Young girl on the lake.

    If she’s not a young Madeleine in a flashback then the movie makes no sense. I thought it was obvious that they were casting a young Madeline when the leaks hit and set photos/video.

    I’m really hoping Bond or Madeleine doesn’t have a kid.

    The thought of someone else having the 00 title also bothers me.


    I don’t think it will happen but also a weird feeling that bond will pass the torch and then she gets a solo film.

    There’s a lot of rumors that don’t sit well.

    Apart from the media telling us what we want, is there a true appetite for a new set of 007 films with Nomi? This is a nice twist for B25, and a fantastic way to close the Craig era, but to carry a new 007 franchise on this character? I honestly don’t see it happening.
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    peter wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Young girl on the lake.

    If she’s not a young Madeleine in a flashback then the movie makes no sense. I thought it was obvious that they were casting a young Madeline when the leaks hit and set photos/video.

    I’m really hoping Bond or Madeleine doesn’t have a kid.

    The thought of someone else having the 00 title also bothers me.


    I don’t think it will happen but also a weird feeling that bond will pass the torch and then she gets a solo film.

    There’s a lot of rumors that don’t sit well.

    Apart from the media telling us what we want, is there a true appetite for a new set of 007 films with Nomi? This is a nice twist for B25, and a fantastic way to close the Craig era, but to carry a new 007 franchise on this character? I honestly don’t see it happening.

    Not a snowballs chance in hell of that happening.
  • RC7RC7
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    AstonLotus wrote: »
    NeverOnTheFirmsTime wrote: »
    AstonLotus wrote: »
    NeverOnTheFirmsTime wrote: »
    Regardless of anyone's personal view that Craig should have left, or is only doing it for the money, or is 'reluctant' to do it, the fact is he IS playing Bond in B25.
    So how about everybody stops bleating and acting like petulant four year olds and starts looking forward to what we are actually about to be delivered?
    I'm getting mightily sick and tired of entitled cry babies banging on about Craig's deficiencies/flaws and putting forward other names - Cavill, Turner et al - as if they would be some sort of 'fantasy' casting and thinking that all would be perfect with them in the role.
    Well, I've got news for you - they wouldn't be perfect and there would still be issues with the production and/or the finished movie, even with one of these fan-boy wet dreams in the role.
    Craig has been magnificent in the role, despite the deficiencies in a couple of his entries (SP being the most glaring), and it's unlikely we'll get another actor of his calibre as Bond for the foreseeable future.
    So why not be grateful for what we have, while we have it - and stop throwing our rattles out of the pram every time it appears the production doesn't appear to be heading the way we like (cos, guess what - we're not making the film, other people are, so get over it and get over yourselves) .

    The title of the thread is asking whether any of us have concerns about Bond 25 and i answered honestly.You may disagree and thats fine but how about not calling people who disagree with your opinion '' petulant four year olds '' because by doing that, YOU are the one who comes across as '' bleating '' and '' throwing rattles out of your prams ''.

    The fact is that the production of this film has been very tumultous with an unprecedented almost five year gap between Bond movies ( Not counting the legal issues between LTK and GE ).The creators had the perfect opportunity to move on,recast,and start fresh but after all this time,they are racing to finish this movie on time without a completed script or even title.

    I would tell you to '' get over it '' but that would be childish.

    I'm not going to get into an argument with you regarding your comments (which you are entitled to) - save to say that everybody is entitled to an opinion, but when an expressed 'opinion' skews into wish-fulfilment (eg, wishing Craig had moved on and the role had been recast - when he hasn't and the role is still patently his - or that the five-year gap had never happened) it has nothing to do with 'legitimate concerns' about B25 (unless it is because there is a fear that Craig may now be too 'old' to convincingly execute the action-intensive scenes, perhaps - which would be a legitimate concern).
    Oh, and for avoidance of doubt I never stated anybody who disagreed with my opinions - and certainly not you individually - was 'bleating' or 'petulant', merely stating that in my opinion there appeared to be a lot of said bleating and petulance present on this thread. To personalise it (which I didn't in my comment) by stating that I personally come across as throwing MY rattle out of the pram and passively-aggressively implying my comments about people getting over themselves were 'childish' is uncalled for - particularly as I qualified my earlier statements with a later, conciliatory post (which you obviously did not read).
    I, for one, am full of confidence - Craig in situ, an interesting plot-line being finessed by a talented writer, an acclaimed up and coming director on board and filming progressing nicely - what's there to be concerned about right now? 🤔
    Now, moving on - and again at the risk of repeating myself - I look forward to hearing other people's concerns - or lack thereof - regarding the Daniel Craig-starring B25 (title TBA) 👍

    You must have an interesting definition of filming progressing nicely.Craig getting injured and an accidental explosion which ripped through a wall that could have killed people is hardly progressing nicely!

    There have been worse accidents in past Bond films. I can think of that one incident where a fragment of a smoke grenade to into Halle Berry’s eye and she had to go straight to emergency surgery.
    A stuntman suffering career ending injuries and a stunt driver veering off the road into Lake Como on QOS comes to mind. Not to mention a car accident that seriously injured veteran crew members on SP. The whole "cursed production" narrative is played out every single time a new Bond film is being made.

    There was a stuntman killed in the bobsled sequence in FYEO, and let's not forget Martin Grace nearly ending his career in the train set piece in OP!

    Exactly! Fans (and most especially the largely uniformed tabloid media) really need to get things in perspective when looking at the production of Bond 25. I was thinking of the stuntman death from FYEO that you mentioned. As far as I'm aware that is the only death to ever have occurred during the making of a James Bond film.

    There was the suicide of Pedro Armendariz.

    Yes, I suppose so though that was after the filming of his scenes had wrapped on FRWL after they were moved forward so he could film them before he succumbed to his illness. In that sense, it wasn't actually a death that occurred on the set of a Bond film, but off stage as it were.

    You reckon the press in 2019 would care?
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited July 2019 Posts: 18,348
    RC7 wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    AstonLotus wrote: »
    NeverOnTheFirmsTime wrote: »
    AstonLotus wrote: »
    NeverOnTheFirmsTime wrote: »
    Regardless of anyone's personal view that Craig should have left, or is only doing it for the money, or is 'reluctant' to do it, the fact is he IS playing Bond in B25.
    So how about everybody stops bleating and acting like petulant four year olds and starts looking forward to what we are actually about to be delivered?
    I'm getting mightily sick and tired of entitled cry babies banging on about Craig's deficiencies/flaws and putting forward other names - Cavill, Turner et al - as if they would be some sort of 'fantasy' casting and thinking that all would be perfect with them in the role.
    Well, I've got news for you - they wouldn't be perfect and there would still be issues with the production and/or the finished movie, even with one of these fan-boy wet dreams in the role.
    Craig has been magnificent in the role, despite the deficiencies in a couple of his entries (SP being the most glaring), and it's unlikely we'll get another actor of his calibre as Bond for the foreseeable future.
    So why not be grateful for what we have, while we have it - and stop throwing our rattles out of the pram every time it appears the production doesn't appear to be heading the way we like (cos, guess what - we're not making the film, other people are, so get over it and get over yourselves) .

    The title of the thread is asking whether any of us have concerns about Bond 25 and i answered honestly.You may disagree and thats fine but how about not calling people who disagree with your opinion '' petulant four year olds '' because by doing that, YOU are the one who comes across as '' bleating '' and '' throwing rattles out of your prams ''.

    The fact is that the production of this film has been very tumultous with an unprecedented almost five year gap between Bond movies ( Not counting the legal issues between LTK and GE ).The creators had the perfect opportunity to move on,recast,and start fresh but after all this time,they are racing to finish this movie on time without a completed script or even title.

    I would tell you to '' get over it '' but that would be childish.

    I'm not going to get into an argument with you regarding your comments (which you are entitled to) - save to say that everybody is entitled to an opinion, but when an expressed 'opinion' skews into wish-fulfilment (eg, wishing Craig had moved on and the role had been recast - when he hasn't and the role is still patently his - or that the five-year gap had never happened) it has nothing to do with 'legitimate concerns' about B25 (unless it is because there is a fear that Craig may now be too 'old' to convincingly execute the action-intensive scenes, perhaps - which would be a legitimate concern).
    Oh, and for avoidance of doubt I never stated anybody who disagreed with my opinions - and certainly not you individually - was 'bleating' or 'petulant', merely stating that in my opinion there appeared to be a lot of said bleating and petulance present on this thread. To personalise it (which I didn't in my comment) by stating that I personally come across as throwing MY rattle out of the pram and passively-aggressively implying my comments about people getting over themselves were 'childish' is uncalled for - particularly as I qualified my earlier statements with a later, conciliatory post (which you obviously did not read).
    I, for one, am full of confidence - Craig in situ, an interesting plot-line being finessed by a talented writer, an acclaimed up and coming director on board and filming progressing nicely - what's there to be concerned about right now? 🤔
    Now, moving on - and again at the risk of repeating myself - I look forward to hearing other people's concerns - or lack thereof - regarding the Daniel Craig-starring B25 (title TBA) 👍

    You must have an interesting definition of filming progressing nicely.Craig getting injured and an accidental explosion which ripped through a wall that could have killed people is hardly progressing nicely!

    There have been worse accidents in past Bond films. I can think of that one incident where a fragment of a smoke grenade to into Halle Berry’s eye and she had to go straight to emergency surgery.
    A stuntman suffering career ending injuries and a stunt driver veering off the road into Lake Como on QOS comes to mind. Not to mention a car accident that seriously injured veteran crew members on SP. The whole "cursed production" narrative is played out every single time a new Bond film is being made.

    There was a stuntman killed in the bobsled sequence in FYEO, and let's not forget Martin Grace nearly ending his career in the train set piece in OP!

    Exactly! Fans (and most especially the largely uniformed tabloid media) really need to get things in perspective when looking at the production of Bond 25. I was thinking of the stuntman death from FYEO that you mentioned. As far as I'm aware that is the only death to ever have occurred during the making of a James Bond film.

    There was the suicide of Pedro Armendariz.

    Yes, I suppose so though that was after the filming of his scenes had wrapped on FRWL after they were moved forward so he could film them before he succumbed to his illness. In that sense, it wasn't actually a death that occurred on the set of a Bond film, but off stage as it were.

    You reckon the press in 2019 would care?

    No, I'm sure that the tabloids would have a field day with it if it happened now and would probably even try to connect the filming of Bond 25 to the illness and the suicide of the actor. They never let the facts get in the way of a good story, of course. And it would be a great example of how "they were right all along" that Bond 25 was a cursed production!
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Apart from the media telling us what we want, is there a true appetite for a new set of 007 films with Nomi? This is a nice twist for B25, and a fantastic way to close the Craig era, but to carry a new 007 franchise on this character? I honestly don’t see it happening.
    Not a snowballs chance in hell of that happening.
    So much for the snowflakes.

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  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
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    There is a few niggles I have with this one, the biggest probably being Arnold not returning. I don't like the rumours that are flying around about a female 007 (black or white), and I just hope any metoo tokenism like this doesn't ruin the movie. I have a concern that EON will try to ditch the gunbarrel again (why would they)? or focus too much on another personal family backstory angle.

    The one thing that would give me a whole 180% turn on this is if the title was revealed to be Shatterhand, and the story would heavily rely on Fleming's YOLT novel.

    If that news came out I would be a very, very happy Bond fan again, completely back on board like I was in 2005, before CR was released.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    Posts: 14,003
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    You got any sources to all of that?

    I'm going off memory, but I'll look it up and post it. EON is known for trying to put a positive spin on certain things, which is why on EON approved documentaries you'll never hear of things like Dalton and John Glen getting into heated conflicts over the direction of LTK.

    One of my favorite Bond collections is the Criterion LaserDiscs for DN, FRWL, and GF. There's rare commentary tracks on all three with all the filmmakers speaking very candidly, which included unflattering remarks about key people. EON didn't like what was said on them and so demanded Criterion to stop producing those discs, so the next batch that came out had the commentaries completely excised.

    Those have a mythical status. I have often heard about them, but never heard them for myself. :-? One wonders what exactly was said in them.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    Posts: 2,641
    I must admit all this talk of Nomi as 007 has dented my excitement for the film. Only because before that, the film was really ticking all my own personal boxes.
    I think once the teaser/title is released I'll feel a bit more at ease. I'm still extremely excited by the idea of just seeing another Bond movie, it's felt like forever since Spectre
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,456
    I'm fed up with the hot takes that EON feels the need to include with each film. The villians and Bond having a standoff at Bonds childhood house was veering close enough into fanfiction territory for me. But, Brofeld and now the "reimagined" 007? For me there is no reason for the franchise to be so post-modern. I know theres a narrative around now that everyone is on board with this new style, but from what I have seen through my own experience, its actually the opposite. Ordinary folk liked Casino Royale because it was a refreshing mix up, and they loved Skyfall because it was a huge, joyous celebration of the franchise and of Britishness. Theres no doubting that film clicked woth the public in a big way. But I don't think that the era as a whole is as beloved as that. Nor do I feel Craig is particularly a guy that people see as synonymous with Bond. Not to say that Craig has done a poor job either, or is unliked, but I think after a certain point the audience expects and begins to anticipate a changing of the guard. And in this instance, I think this period began post SPECTRE. Definitely after the statements he made to the press after that mavie came out. But more than anything, I think that 9 years in the role probably just felt right. Now we start to get some behind the scene snippets of this upcoming movie and I'm sure many like me saying, huh? Daniel Criag is still Bond all these years later? How do they expect people will respond after all this time? He didn't exactly look enthused to be back at the press conference. He looked distracted if anything.

    Bond 25 seems in a very risky place at the moment. We don't if Craig is still here for the role 100 percent, or if he has just been dragged in because they don't feel like starting over yet. We can't tell whether or not they hired Fukunaga for his talents as a director, or because he was the only guy they could get on short notice to take something like this on. Many of the cast seem to have been drafted at the last minute, not knowing much about their characters, or given given chance to look at the script. Truth be told, until we get a poster and or title we can't tell what shape the production is in but things have gone very quiet lately, almost eeriely so. I get the feeling like there could be more news in the days ahead, lets hope its positive.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    @Mendes4Lyfe agreed about press conference they should have done better but not about everything else.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,266
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Daniel Criag is still Bond all these years later? How do they expect people will respond after all this time?

    The same way people respond to Tom Cruise still being Ethan Hunt after 20+ years?
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,456
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Daniel Criag is still Bond all these years later? How do they expect people will respond after all this time?

    The same way people respond to Tom Cruise still being Ethan Hunt after 20+ years?

    But everyone knows Tom Cruise is one of a kind. We've already seen Bond cast 6 times before, so like I said people are kind of half expecting it by this point.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I'm fed up with the hot takes that EON feels the need to include with each film. The villians and Bond having a standoff at Bonds childhood house was veering close enough into fanfiction territory for me. But, Brofeld and now the "reimagined" 007? For me there is no reason for the franchise to be so post-modern. I know theres a narrative around now that everyone is on board with this new style, but from what I have seen through my own experience, its actually the opposite. Ordinary folk liked Casino Royale because it was a refreshing mix up, and they loved Skyfall because it was a huge, joyous celebration of the franchise and of Britishness. Theres no doubting that film clicked woth the public in a big way. But I don't think that the era as a whole is as beloved as that. Nor do I feel Craig is particularly a guy that people see as synonymous with Bond. Not to say that Craig has done a poor job either, or is unliked, but I think after a certain point the audience expects and begins to anticipate a changing of the guard. And in this instance, I think this period began post SPECTRE. Definitely after the statements he made to the press after that mavie came out. But more than anything, I think that 9 years in the role probably just felt right. Now we start to get some behind the scene snippets of this upcoming movie and I'm sure many like me saying, huh? Daniel Criag is still Bond all these years later? How do they expect people will respond after all this time? He didn't exactly look enthused to be back at the press conference. He looked distracted if anything.

    Bond 25 seems in a very risky place at the moment. We don't if Craig is still here for the role 100 percent, or if he has just been dragged in because they don't feel like starting over yet. We can't tell whether or not they hired Fukunaga for his talents as a director, or because he was the only guy they could get on short notice to take something like this on. Many of the cast seem to have been drafted at the last minute, not knowing much about their characters, or given given chance to look at the script. Truth be told, until we get a poster and or title we can't tell what shape the production is inbut things have gone very quiet lately, almost eeriely so. I get the feeling like there could be more news in the days ahead, lets hope its positive.

    They could release a title and poster tomorrow - it still wouldn’t give you any genuine idea on what shape the production is in. It would just be more fodder for you and your kin to get worked up about.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,266
    RC7 wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I'm fed up with the hot takes that EON feels the need to include with each film. The villians and Bond having a standoff at Bonds childhood house was veering close enough into fanfiction territory for me. But, Brofeld and now the "reimagined" 007? For me there is no reason for the franchise to be so post-modern. I know theres a narrative around now that everyone is on board with this new style, but from what I have seen through my own experience, its actually the opposite. Ordinary folk liked Casino Royale because it was a refreshing mix up, and they loved Skyfall because it was a huge, joyous celebration of the franchise and of Britishness. Theres no doubting that film clicked woth the public in a big way. But I don't think that the era as a whole is as beloved as that. Nor do I feel Craig is particularly a guy that people see as synonymous with Bond. Not to say that Craig has done a poor job either, or is unliked, but I think after a certain point the audience expects and begins to anticipate a changing of the guard. And in this instance, I think this period began post SPECTRE. Definitely after the statements he made to the press after that mavie came out. But more than anything, I think that 9 years in the role probably just felt right. Now we start to get some behind the scene snippets of this upcoming movie and I'm sure many like me saying, huh? Daniel Criag is still Bond all these years later? How do they expect people will respond after all this time? He didn't exactly look enthused to be back at the press conference. He looked distracted if anything.

    Bond 25 seems in a very risky place at the moment. We don't if Craig is still here for the role 100 percent, or if he has just been dragged in because they don't feel like starting over yet. We can't tell whether or not they hired Fukunaga for his talents as a director, or because he was the only guy they could get on short notice to take something like this on. Many of the cast seem to have been drafted at the last minute, not knowing much about their characters, or given given chance to look at the script. Truth be told, until we get a poster and or title we can't tell what shape the production is inbut things have gone very quiet lately, almost eeriely so. I get the feeling like there could be more news in the days ahead, lets hope its positive.

    They could release a title and poster tomorrow - it still wouldn’t give you any genuine idea on what shape the production is in. It would just be more fodder for you and your kin to get worked up about.

    +1

    The attempt at logic (in another thread) is that unless we get a poster soon, the film will perform even less at the BO than SP. This obsession with promotional output is going off the rails.
  • UnivexUnivex
    edited July 2019 Posts: 6,710
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Daniel Criag is still Bond all these years later? How do they expect people will respond after all this time?

    The same way people respond to Tom Cruise still being Ethan Hunt after 20+ years?

    But everyone knows Tom Cruise is one of a kind. We've already seen Bond cast 6 times before, so like I said people are kind of half expecting it by this point.

    I take it you don't like Daniel Craig, so I've got a question for you. Why oh why is he on your avatar? And hey do you call yourself that? Is it ironic? Is it meant to be ironic?

    Just asking ;) Bit of a paradox there.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited July 2019 Posts: 18,348
    Univex wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Daniel Criag is still Bond all these years later? How do they expect people will respond after all this time?

    The same way people respond to Tom Cruise still being Ethan Hunt after 20+ years?

    But everyone knows Tom Cruise is one of a kind. We've already seen Bond cast 6 times before, so like I said people are kind of half expecting it by this point.

    I take it you don't like Daniel Craig, so I've got a question for you. Why oh why is he on your avatar? And hey do you call yourself that? Is it ironic? Is it meant to be ironic?

    Just asking ;) Bit of a paradox there.

    Yes, although I don't post very often on Bond 25 threads (trying to avoid spoilers) I've wondered that myself more than once. It'll be interesting to hear the reasoning behind the avatar and username. :)
  • RC7RC7
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I'm fed up with the hot takes that EON feels the need to include with each film. The villians and Bond having a standoff at Bonds childhood house was veering close enough into fanfiction territory for me. But, Brofeld and now the "reimagined" 007? For me there is no reason for the franchise to be so post-modern. I know theres a narrative around now that everyone is on board with this new style, but from what I have seen through my own experience, its actually the opposite. Ordinary folk liked Casino Royale because it was a refreshing mix up, and they loved Skyfall because it was a huge, joyous celebration of the franchise and of Britishness. Theres no doubting that film clicked woth the public in a big way. But I don't think that the era as a whole is as beloved as that. Nor do I feel Craig is particularly a guy that people see as synonymous with Bond. Not to say that Craig has done a poor job either, or is unliked, but I think after a certain point the audience expects and begins to anticipate a changing of the guard. And in this instance, I think this period began post SPECTRE. Definitely after the statements he made to the press after that mavie came out. But more than anything, I think that 9 years in the role probably just felt right. Now we start to get some behind the scene snippets of this upcoming movie and I'm sure many like me saying, huh? Daniel Criag is still Bond all these years later? How do they expect people will respond after all this time? He didn't exactly look enthused to be back at the press conference. He looked distracted if anything.

    Bond 25 seems in a very risky place at the moment. We don't if Craig is still here for the role 100 percent, or if he has just been dragged in because they don't feel like starting over yet. We can't tell whether or not they hired Fukunaga for his talents as a director, or because he was the only guy they could get on short notice to take something like this on. Many of the cast seem to have been drafted at the last minute, not knowing much about their characters, or given given chance to look at the script. Truth be told, until we get a poster and or title we can't tell what shape the production is inbut things have gone very quiet lately, almost eeriely so. I get the feeling like there could be more news in the days ahead, lets hope its positive.

    They could release a title and poster tomorrow - it still wouldn’t give you any genuine idea on what shape the production is in. It would just be more fodder for you and your kin to get worked up about.

    +1

    The attempt at logic (in another thread) is that unless we get a poster soon, the film will perform even less at the BO than SP. This obsession with promotional output is going off the rails.

    I figured as much. As soon as I saw multiple new posts I avoided it. Perfect thread for all the doom-mongers to postulate. Boring. Boring. Boring.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    I was thinking of seeing the new Tarantino movie, but it s only been four months since the teaser trailer came out, so I think I will skip it.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    I was thinking of seeing the new Tarantino movie, but it s only been four months since the teaser trailer came out, so I think I will skip it.

    Perfect, waterproof reasoning. ;-)
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    Posts: 18,348
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    I was thinking of seeing the new Tarantino movie, but it s only been four months since the teaser trailer came out, so I think I will skip it.

    Yeah, better.
  • Bentley007Bentley007 Manitoba, Canada
    edited July 2019 Posts: 581
    I will be the first to admit I was excited to see a Danny Boyle Bond movie and until yesterday kind of hoped to see his script for Bond25 surface with parts used for future films. Last evening I saw Yesterday, while I enjoyed the film overall the typical Danny Boyle tropes took me out of the film. The camera angles, inner monologue scene and other Danny Boyle favourites seemed forced into a narrative that didnt suit them. I fear this would have been the same with his Bond film which would have left us with a Danny Boyle movie about James Bond and not the desired James Bond movie directed by an acclaimed and talented storyteller. I am very thankful for Cary Fukunaga as I dont see anything in his films that would have this same impact on me.
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    True Detective on its on is proof of what Cary can do,and what he can get out of A-List,talented actors.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
    Posts: 7,624
    barryt007 wrote: »
    True Detective on its on is proof of what Cary can do,and what he can get out of A-List,talented actors.

    Agreed, plus BEASTS OF NO NATION shows he has a strong narrative , and good visual eye!
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,266
    Still, B25 will be a disaster because they haven't released a teaser trailer or poster yet. ;-)
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    Yep..... these time travellers have all the knowledge DD !!
  • BounineBounine
    edited August 2019 Posts: 2,599
    Every single character in Bond 25 should be a woman...even the extras. I'm sorry but there's just no place for men in movies anymore. We must all move with the times.
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