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  • delfloriadelfloria
    Posts: 1,859
    Here is hoping the film embraces the Bond theme as much as this trailer does.
  • AgentM72AgentM72
    Posts: 831
    I think it's Santiago de Cuba, which is a (relatively) short distance directly across the waters of the Caribbean Sea from...Jamaica.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 7,314
    This trailer has been the best thing (by far) since the initial teaser. It has restored my faith in this movie. Of course, I feel like a different person now compared to six months ago. I think we all need James Bond to save the world this November.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    Posts: 12,837
    Looks brilliant. I like how it seems more epic in scope than the other Craig films. Not slagging them off, I’ve really enjoyed this era on the whole, particularly the last two. But it seems only right that he goes out with a bang, in a proper save the world sort of film. That “if we don’t do this” bit is what intrigued me the most. His voice breaking. Seems like this will be an emotional finale. Saffin looks great, as does his base (so glad we’re getting one of those again). The action looks insane, seems like a big step up from the Mendes movies on that front. Lynch looks badass, the only “Bond’s equal” Bond girl who they’ve actually bothered making cool and suave, and her dynamic with MP could be great. And Craig seems on top form. Even in that trailer you can tell he’s giving it his all. Can’t see any “he looks bored” complaints this time round (although I never agreed with them anyway).

    I think by the end of this one he might actually surprass Dalton as my favourite Bond (right now he’s neck and neck with Pierce at no.2). Took me a while to warm to this era at first. The reboot was a big adjustment, and then I didn’t like QoS at all. But I think I’m going to be really sad when it ends.

    I think he’s genuinely raised the bar for the series, and I don’t say that lightly. I love all the actors we’ve had so far, and most of the films. Some of my favourite Bonds are entirely formula driven (TSWLM, GE). But if they went back to the old formulaic way of doing it, then I think it’d feel like such a step down from what we’ve had with Craig. There have been some low points, but it’s also been a real journey. The most dynamic era in the history of the series.

    I really hope they keep that experimentation and character work up with the next actor. I could do with less retreading of the same themes (I get that emphasising he’s a dinasour is the only way to make him work in the modern world, but at least find a new angle on that; focus on the snobbery rather than the sexism maybe), but I never want to go back to the days of Bond being a cartoon character again. No matter where we go from here, keep him feeling this real please.
  • AKillToAViewAKillToAView
    edited September 2020 Posts: 440
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    pattabra wrote: »
    definitely references to yolt , do you agree?
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    This shot kinda accentuates my key reservation from the trailer.

    I know that most of that set is real, but the CGI to extend it looks a little janky. It looks a bit like a video game. There are other examples in the trailer.

    To my eyes, it doesn't look like that shot has any CGI at all. I think what's throwing people off is Sandgren's slightly unusual (for a Bond film) lensing.

    A number of shots are deliberately soft-focused and look like he's used an older model of anamorphic lens, which sometimes tend to to distort the edges of shots.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,363
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    I think leaning on spectacle is a good choice considering where the world is at right now. It's exactly what people will go to theatres for if they are in a position to.

    Plus it's a Bond film; the trailers always lean on the spectacle. I guess you could say this isn't a very jokey one or perhaps doesn't have much of the sophisticated, walking-into-Monte Carlo shots in it, but Bond trailers always have lots of stuff blowing up! :) I found it funny watching a bit of the YouTuber predicting it would lean on the spectacle and all I could think was that it's a fairly safe bet that a Bond trailer will have some big action in it!
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 25,087
    battleshipgreygt wrote: »
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    Mallory wrote: »
    @Fire_and_Ice_Returns There is more personality and likability to Madeline in that two second shot than the whole of Spectre.

    Madeline should smile more that's for sure.

    NTTD will live or die by its script ultimately. Hopefully we will get nothing remorely like SP.

    I think one of the most difficult things for NTTD is how uninteresting Madeleine was in Spectre and how unconvincing the love story between her and Bond was. If they want this film to work, they're basically going to have to re-sell the audience on that character/relationship with probably not a ton of screen time.

    Totally agree initially I did not want a continuation of the Madeline story when we found that out years ago lol though its where we are at so I will try to be open minded.

    I just hope this obsession with tying all the DC films together is not as clunky as it was with SP.
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    Posts: 2,526
    Seeing that NTTD's cinema release is more than 2 months away. does anyone think another trailer will appear ?
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
    Posts: 1,030
    AKillToAView wrote: »
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    pattabra wrote: »
    definitely references to yolt , do you agree?
    Eg_J1dKWoAI-WlT?format=jpg&name=large

    This shot kinda accentuates my key reservation from the trailer.

    I know that most of that set is real, but the CGI to extend it looks a little janky. It looks a bit like a video game. There are other examples in the trailer.

    To my eyes, it doesn't look like that shot has any CGI at all. I think what's throwing people off is Sandgren's slightly unusual (for a Bond film) lensing.

    A number of shots are deliberately soft-focused and look like he's used an older model of anamorphic lens, which sometimes tend to to distort the edges of shots.

    This! There’s a deliberate dream-like quality to the lensing. A very interesting choice...
    Two things come to mind-
    1. Was this deliberate because they knew how much CGI would be required for the film and this was their way of “blending” it more seamlessly with the real action shots?
    2. Cary famously mentioned that this whole story (along with the ending of Spectre) could in fact all be happening in James’ head after the brain drilling scene... is this movie literally a dream?

    Regardless, beautiful heart-pumping trailer. I can’t imagine a better 2 minutes to get people extremely excited about Bond. Bring on November!! 😍
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,967
    007InAction wrote: »
    Seeing that NTTD's cinema release is more than 2 months away. does anyone think another trailer will appear ?

    As I was saying a couple of days back, I suppose it's possible we'll get another one, two months until release or not, since this is their new round of marketing. If not and this is the last one, I'm sure we'll get countless TV spots as usual with lots of new footage.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    thelivingroyale wrote: »
    Looks brilliant. I like how it seems more epic in scope than the other Craig films. Not slagging them off, I’ve really enjoyed this era on the whole, particularly the last two. But it seems only right that he goes out with a bang, in a proper save the world sort of film. That “if we don’t do this” bit is what intrigued me the most. His voice breaking. Seems like this will be an emotional finale. Saffin looks great, as does his base (so glad we’re getting one of those again). The action looks insane, seems like a big step up from the Mendes movies on that front. Lynch looks badass, the only “Bond’s equal” Bond girl who they’ve actually bothered making cool and suave, and her dynamic with MP could be great. And Craig seems on top form. Even in that trailer you can tell he’s giving it his all. Can’t see any “he looks bored” complaints this time round (although I never agreed with them anyway).

    I think by the end of this one he might actually surprass Dalton as my favourite Bond (right now he’s neck and neck with Pierce at no.2). Took me a while to warm to this era at first. The reboot was a big adjustment, and then I didn’t like QoS at all. But I think I’m going to be really sad when it ends.

    I think he’s genuinely raised the bar for the series, and I don’t say that lightly. I love all the actors we’ve had so far, and most of the films. Some of my favourite Bonds are entirely formula driven (TSWLM, GE). But if they went back to the old formulaic way of doing it, then I think it’d feel like such a step down from what we’ve had with Craig. There have been some low points, but it’s also been a real journey. The most dynamic era in the history of the series.

    I really hope they keep that experimentation and character work up with the next actor. I could do with less retreading of the same themes (I get that emphasising he’s a dinasour is the only way to make him work in the modern world, but at least find a new angle on that; focus on the snobbery rather than the sexism maybe), but I never want to go back to the days of Bond being a cartoon character again. No matter where we go from here, keep him feeling this real please.

    Excellent post.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    edited September 2020 Posts: 12,466
    I have to say, the line with Craig saying "If we don't do this, there will be nothing left to save," was incredibly powerful and sticks with me more than anything else in the trailer. I can tell there will be a lot of raw emotion, and I feel really really good about the odds of Craig having delivered a big-time performance in his swansong.

    EDIT: It also just occurred to me how Paloma appears right after Felix's quote about being hard to tell heroes apart from villains... perhaps she can be a femme fatale after all?
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 7,314
    thelivingroyale wrote: »
    I think by the end of this one he might actually surprass Dalton as my favourite Bond

    Pigs are flying!
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    Posts: 12,837
    FoxRox wrote: »
    I have to say, the line with Craig saying "If we don't do this, there will be nothing left to save," was incredibly powerful and sticks with me more than anything else in the trailer. I can tell there will be a lot of raw emotion, and I feel really really good about the odds of Craig having delivered a big-time performance in his swansong.

    Agreed, love that bit. Could we see him finally win a BAFTA? I think he could at least be in for another nomination. He got one for CR, so he easily could do again, and with COVID pushing films back, there’ll be less competition (maybe even an Oscar nom? Less competition and all the right names attached for that sort of attention).
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    edited September 2020 Posts: 2,526
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    007InAction wrote: »
    Seeing that NTTD's cinema release is more than 2 months away. does anyone think another trailer will appear ?

    As I was saying a couple of days back, I suppose it's possible we'll get another one, two months until release or not, since this is their new round of marketing. If not and this is the last one, I'm sure we'll get countless TV spots as usual with lots of new footage.

    Trailers are great value for money.
    Did Tenet have any tv ads ?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,967
    FoxRox wrote: »
    I have to say, the line with Craig saying "If we don't do this, there will be nothing left to save," was incredibly powerful and sticks with me more than anything else in the trailer. I can tell there will be a lot of raw emotion, and I feel really really good about the odds of Craig having delivered a big-time performance in his swansong.

    EDIT: It also just occurred to me how Paloma appears right after Felix's quote about being hard to tell heroes apart from villains... perhaps she can be a femme fatale after all?

    It's such a great line, it really is. I hope it's just like that, delivery and all, in the finished film.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    Posts: 12,837
    pachazo wrote: »
    thelivingroyale wrote: »
    I think by the end of this one he might actually surprass Dalton as my favourite Bond

    Pigs are flying!

    Haha, I’d have never expected it either. Told me that’d happen ten years ago and I’d have laughed at you. But the more I reflect on it, as we’re nearing the end, the more I’ve realised how much I’m gonna miss him.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 7,314
    thelivingroyale wrote: »
    pachazo wrote: »
    thelivingroyale wrote: »
    I think by the end of this one he might actually surprass Dalton as my favourite Bond

    Pigs are flying!

    Haha, I’d have never expected it either. Told me that’d happen ten years ago and I’d have laughed at you. But the more I reflect on it, as we’re nearing the end, the more I’ve realised how much I’m gonna miss him.

    Although we haven't interacted much throughout the years, I have read many of your posts and have always respected your input. I was hoping that my comment wouldn't offend but just relay my shock. I'm glad you have found a new appreciation for Craig but will always know you as a staunch Dalton supporter!
  • Crazysoul95Crazysoul95
    Posts: 3,336
    After having seen the trailer about 20 times i can safely say that i really like it. November can't come soon enough!
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    Posts: 1,263
    Amazing trailer, a good balance was struck between showing us what we have already seen with just enough new content to get us chomping at the bit.

    My first reaction to the trailer was please tell me the trailer music in the beginning was a selection from the musical score.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,970
    Just saw the trailer on a YouTube ad. The first time I've not skipped haha :D
  • BounineBounine
    edited September 2020 Posts: 2,599
    The music sounds familiar. :) Nothing in particular that stands out to me as it's pretty similar to the other trailers but entertaining all the same. It seems to tick off all the boxes in terms of the later Connery, Moore and Brosnan films but with more of a harder edge to it in terms of Craig's portrayal of the character which is the mixture that I think they need. This is nice but I don't know, to me, it seems like the Bond films are merging more and more with the Mission Impossible flicks. We see less and less of our protagonist doing the things he used to such as gambling and so on...

    The villain's lair looks great. - Ken Adamsque. Anyway, I'll wait for the film. Trailers don't show much obviously. The Jamaica scenes are what I'm most looking forward to. This part seems more in line with the books. Would have liked to have seen Craig in some cool skiing scenes that are were in line with OHMSS (not TWINE).

    In terms of the new poster - another bland disappointment. I like Craig's pose and his facial expression but the background once again, fails to please.
  • imranbecksimranbecks Singapore
    Posts: 984
    Paloma wearing that same outfit just shows she won't survive long in the movie. Wonder how long is her screen time.... Probably just as quick as Severine in Skyfall.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,583
    imranbecks wrote: »
    Paloma wearing that same outfit just shows she won't survive long in the movie. Wonder how long is her screen time.... Probably just as quick as Severine in Skyfall.

    If that
  • antovolkantovolk
    edited September 2020 Posts: 3,164
    HD copy from Apple Trailers http://trailers.apple.com/movies/mgm/no-time-to-die/no-time-to-die-trailer-2_h1080p.mov

    Edit: and the big fat ProRes copy (skip all the ads) https://forum.vidd.pro/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,363
    Wow that is hefty: 3 GB!
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    Posts: 1,318
    Featured also on hd-trailers.net. My go to quality trailer website. About 180MB for 1080P quality.

    http://www.hd-trailers.net/movie/no-time-to-die/
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 3,022
    Damn that trailer is badass. When it starts build up with fast clips towards the end. Cheezus..


  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 14,568
    antovolk wrote: »
    HD copy from Apple Trailers http://trailers.apple.com/movies/mgm/no-time-to-die/no-time-to-die-trailer-2_h1080p.mov
    Many thanks.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    Bounine wrote: »
    The music sounds familiar. :) Nothing in particular that stands out to me as it's pretty similar to the other trailers but entertaining all the same. It seems to tick off all the boxes in terms of the later Connery, Moore and Brosnan films but with more of a harder edge to it in terms of Craig's portrayal of the character which is the mixture that I think they need. This is nice but I don't know, to me, it seems like the Bond films are merging more and more with the Mission Impossible flicks. We see less and less of our protagonist doing the things he used to such as gambling and so on...

    The villain's lair looks great. - Ken Adamsque. Anyway, I'll wait for the film. Trailers don't show much obviously. The Jamaica scenes are what I'm most looking forward to. This part seems more in line with the books. Would have liked to have seen Craig in some cool skiing scenes that are were in line with OHMSS (not TWINE).

    In terms of the new poster - another bland disappointment. I like Craig's pose and his facial expression but the background once again, fails to please.

    Well, it looks like Paloma and Bond will have a drink at a casino of some sorts, so we'll see.

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