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if you notice in the trailer, when Bond asks Lynch is she is a Double-O, and she responds "2 years".. it sounds a bit clipped when Craig asks her, like maybe they cut out him asking her if she is "the new 007".... if thats true, then they are avoiding the subject all together and will just let people deal with it when they see it in the movie, in proper context..... i'm actually shocked they just simply didnt introduce her as just "a double-o agent" to begin with and let the surprise happen when seeing the movie... unless they just wanted to get it out there in the open right off the bat, in a "here it is, deal with it" manner..
What Irony, virtually this entire post is festering bigotry. Lol.
how so? because i have no real respect for those that don't show at least an ounce of common sense and tolerance or restraint? those that go out of their way to personally insult and attack actors/actresses on social media because they don't like "being woke" - so their actions are perfectly justifiable, and i need to respect that??... if thats festering bigotry on my end :-? .. then so be it.
if you got a LEGIT gripe based on what you believe to be said actor/actress' ability to act and perform - then thats a fair a valid argument you present, and it deserves to be heard and given respect..
simply going "i dont like it because (she's a woman) or (she's black)." yeah, sorry, thats not a argument or an opinion that deserves respect, and i'll call it what it is....
and yeah, i made a tounge-in-cheek broad assumption based on the countless amounts of crap and generally mean spirited people i've conversed with since Lashawna's casting - because thats wut the vast majority of those interactions were based around, so even though it was a bit of sarcasm on my part, it's rooted in some truth...
When it comes to strong women in film, Sigourney Weaver is one of my all time favorite actresses; she’s played strong women throughout her career with Ellen Ripley being the strongest. I don’t remember a bit of backlash or misogyny when either Alien or Aliens came out . She took charge, kicked ass and nobody batted an eye.
I’m sure there are racist and misogynist out there who who don’t care for Lynch because of her skin color or because she’s a woman portraying a strong character, but it’s mistake to paint with a broad brush and imply that any , or the majority who don’t find her appealing or care for what we’ve seen of her character at this point, are guided by the same motivations.
i don't believe i ever said those exact words - you're infering.. i never said if you don't find her attractive, you are a racist.. there are plenty of women of various ethnicities that i find attractive and unattractive - and i certainly don't use whether or not i am sexually attracted to them to determine their worth as a person either.. i dont find Leslie Jones attractive, but, i think she's funny and a decent actress.. i also think Lupita N'Yongo (butchered spelling i know) stunning and gorgeous along with being a gifted and talented actress.. Haley Berry - gorgeous - but i think she's a lousy actress... so if you don't find Lashawna attractive, ok - you don't - thats not what i was saying.. what i was saying is that if your problem with her boils down to her skin color, and you use that as ammunition against her casting, then there's an issue...
no.. because she was a really well written character that you could believe.. same thing with Linda Hamilton as Sarah Conner.... the difference here though is, people are already talking and basing their opinions on Lynch as if they have already seen the movie - which to my knowledge still has another 5 months (roughly) until it's released... now, obviously, people make assumptions and guesses on tone and direction based on what they have seen before (thats how we beget stereotypes) "based on what i know and what i have seen, i feel like this is where this is going, and i like/don't like it."... again, fine... but from what i see, people are just willing to write off a character/movie now simply because they feel like a movie is "shoving an agenda".. - "Lashawna Lynch is playing a black female 007 - this movie is obviously pushing a female empowerment agenda, they are ruining James Bond!" - i've heard and read these exact words hundreds of times.. now i will say this - if it feels cheap and heavy handed and insulting, and gimmicky - meaning its done to simply try and appeal to a cetain demographic to sell tickets - then thats open for valid discussion - because i've gone on numerous rants about Ghostbusters 2016 for doing the same thing.. it had nothing to do with the women in the movie, more about the reason Why... so, if you feel like EON are stuffing 'METOO' into NTTD in a cheap, gimmicky way just in order to push an agenda and try and sell tickets.. ok, lets talk...
and you're right, it was wrong to use a broad brush, even in a sarcastic way - again, because of the piles of disgusting crap i've had to the displeasure of reading through.. so if that struck a nerve, i am sorry... i am not trying to piss anyone off - i just reflected what i've seen as reasons why some prematurely reject her character, and i find it disturbing.. i didn't intend to mean "all who don't like her, feel this exact way.".. i'm sorry.
Can we maybe just say that some people don´t like Lashana Lynch because she´s black/female, and some people don´t like her because of her performance in the bits of the trailer?
Many times in this discussion it is argued that people don´t like Lynch because she´s a strong woman. I find it problematic if a woman is deemed tough or strong based how much she acts like a man. The Craig era is incredibly devoted to showing what a soft core lies underneath Bond´s hard shell, and a Bond standing with sheltering arms in front of his chest before Blofeld only corroborates this. So if now a female agent comes across like the young Bond did at the beginning of CR, and even more arrogant, my first thoughts are, "endocrine dysbalance. She´s taking male hormons."
Mind you, I am in this post talking purely based on the small bits I gathered from the trailer. It is entirely possible that the full film will give a totally different impression.
Some of us seem to assume that Bond will be a secondary character.
And again: no other Bondmovie has been nitpicked and speculated to death like NTTD...
Ya know, that's a thing.
Again: So far we have seen 5sec of Lynch's character and 2 sentences.
What if she actually drives the plot? Is this now bad ("we don't want people to steal the show from Bond") or is it positive ("with 006 it was an exception because he drove the plot")
Why did we never have the same discussion about Felix, a character that apparently everyone wants back all the time, and even more so since Wright is playing him in a was that is... eh... not too different from what we see from Lynch in the trailer?
Why does everyone want a strong Femme Fetale or Henchwomen like Xenia, yet when another interesting side character shows up in the form of a woman, it is a No Go?
I just hope that she written well and she plays the role well. So far I really like her knee comment, and I am hoping for more interesting banter with Bond
Will do.
It may take place just in front Adverkirie Castle in Scotland.
Yet the background may have been digitally replaced - a common practice nowadays.
https://www.google.com/maps/search/adverkirie+estate+Scotland+maps/@56.9551154,-4.4600174,634m/data=!3m1!1e3
With a black woman instead, it's either a threat by some angry bitch who doesn't know her place, the result of affirmative action, or something edgy and transgressive. Actually, if she's been 00 for two years, Nomi has already killed people and she's supposedly more than able to defend herself against any serious threat. Just like James Bond. She's allowed to make puns.
And yet, we don't have any clue about Nomi's role in the script. We don't have any context. We just have something like five seconds. After all, Nomi could be the agent Bond is supposed to mentor, causing them to have more a father-daughter dynamic than a will they-won't they, given Bond's womanizing ways. It would emphasize a newly found balance and maturity that will allow him to commit finally to a woman he loves and who's more in his age range.
Finally, people will pay to see a Bond movie. They don't ask the cashier a ticket for the 007 movie.
Thing is, I hate, absolutely hate buddy movies. And I hate it when other 00s appear in a Bond film, with the exception of that reunion table in TB.
But I'm sure NTTD will be awesome on its own right, and not a buddy movie or a M:i rip off.
I have no doubt we'll get just the right amount of action in this film but am curious what kind of variety there will be. So excited!
Regarding buddy movies, The Man from UNCLE was definitely one of them. Even if that's obviously not the direction they are going with NTTD, such a line wouldn't have shocked in this movie. Actually, this kind of passive aggressive banter is common comic relief, and an opportunity for dialog to be witty. What will be Bond's retort?
Damn, you're right. I actually liked that one. But the original piece was always that, wasn't it?
IMO He is the one who Madeline talks about on the train in spectre. The man in the mask has skin disease or whatever and later Malek clearly has scarring, like acne.
That would be maybe a twenty year gap. Is there a possibility Malek is using genetics to prolong his own life. Or even make clones of himself. (I don’t like the last idea so much feels a bit Die Another Day)
“My skills will live on...”
This seems to play into that idea too.
I think the cloning hypothesis was generated by questions about who the girl is in the opening ice lake scenes. But I think we are all certain now that the girl is indeed a young Madeleine and the opening is simply set some 20 years or so in the past. And so I suspect, no cloning, but Malek is exploiting genetics to prolong his life and also for another much bigger scheme, hence his line, "My skills will live on..."
And before anyone calls me sexist or whatever... quick question... how many women NAVY SEALS are there? Are there any at all? Because the movies paint this picture of women kicking ass left and right. But the real world seems to paint a totally different picture. Men and women are built differently and women simply aren’t meant to take the kind of abuse that men are.
Bond girl - "Know Your Limits"...........
But you’re happy for Bond to dodge all those bullets? 24 films and he’s been shot twice. The reality is no human would last more than a few seconds in some of the scenarios Bond finds himself, we’re talking fantasy. You sound like you’ve got some issues if this is what you get angry about.
Regardless, what you’re stating hardly happens, if at all, in most Bond films and sometimes when it does - Xenia - it’s great fun.
I hope we never cross paths.