NTTD - Official Trailer Discussion Thread - First trailer OUT NOW (MINOR SPOILERS ALLOWED)

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  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited December 2019 Posts: 4,247
    Lashana Lynch's situation brings back memories of Daniel Craig's Casting as Bond. how he was backlashed by Cinephiles, Critics & Bond fans. But once Craig's Bond utters his first lines with Sinclair's Dryden in that stylish black & white shot, we immediately felt the presence of the greatest Secret Agent of all time. Am not a fan of Lynch as 007. but let's Hope NTTD vindicates Lynch, just as CR did Craig.
  • edited December 2019 Posts: 654
    007 cannot be a woman. Case closed! Unless you’re all interested in going to watch Jane Bond movies from here on out. That’s why we reject the code name theory. 007 belongs to James Bond and James Bond is a white male. Case closed again.
  • Posts: 17,763
    007 cannot be a woman. Case closed! Unless you’re all interested in going to watch Jane Bond movies from here on out. That’s why we reject the code name theory. 007 belongs to James Bond and James Bond is a white male. Case closed again.

    I suggest you don't watch NTTD.
  • Posts: 1,314
    007 cannot be a woman. Case closed! Unless you’re all interested in going to watch Jane Bond movies from here on out. That’s why we reject the code name theory. 007 belongs to James Bond and James Bond is a white male. Case closed again.

    Fleming wrote Bond marrying a japanese woman, having a child and leaving the service. Controversial...?

    Its perfectly plausible that in the event of his retirement his number would have been assigned to someone else? Its not like football where you retire a shirt
  • RC7RC7
    edited December 2019 Posts: 10,512
    007 cannot be a woman. Case closed! Unless you’re all interested in going to watch Jane Bond movies from here on out. That’s why we reject the code name theory. 007 belongs to James Bond and James Bond is a white male. Case closed again.

    Nomi being 007 reinforces the code name theory is nonsense, you wally. The codename element of the codename theory is that ‘James Bond’ is the codename.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    007 cannot be a woman. Case closed! Unless you’re all interested in going to watch Jane Bond movies from here on out. That’s why we reject the code name theory. 007 belongs to James Bond and James Bond is a white male. Case closed again.

    I suggest you don't watch NTTD.

    LOL!
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    At least he didn't say he prefers the Bond women when they look like porno.

    I do wonder about some peoples perceptions of women in general. The idea that a woman couldn't credibly kick a mans arse is somewhat ridiculous if they have skills.

    Also if Nomi was played by Ana then I could see this being a credible argument but Lynch has a much more statuesque physique and I think could look much more convincing taking out some men during the film.

    So why not?

    You get kicked in the nuts, you aren't getting up too quickly.
  • edited December 2019 Posts: 6,709
    Poor Mr. Fassbender (fan favourite for Bond):



    Now what's that about women not being able to kick ass?
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Shardlake wrote: »
    At least he didn't say he prefers the Bond women when they look like porno.

    I do wonder about some peoples perceptions of women in general. The idea that a woman couldn't credibly kick a mans arse is somewhat ridiculous if they have skills.

    Also if Nomi was played by Ana then I could see this being a credible argument but Lynch has a much more statuesque physique and I think could look much more convincing taking out some men during the film.

    So why not?

    You get kicked in the nuts, you aren't getting up too quickly.

    I agree. But ironically I don’t think anyone would have an issue if it was Ana. She’s the one who acrobatically nails a bloke in trailer, but Lynch is the one getting the grief. We know why.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    RC7 wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    At least he didn't say he prefers the Bond women when they look like porno.

    I do wonder about some peoples perceptions of women in general. The idea that a woman couldn't credibly kick a mans arse is somewhat ridiculous if they have skills.

    Also if Nomi was played by Ana then I could see this being a credible argument but Lynch has a much more statuesque physique and I think could look much more convincing taking out some men during the film.

    So why not?

    You get kicked in the nuts, you aren't getting up too quickly.

    I agree. But ironically I don’t think anyone would have an issue if it was Ana. She’s the one who acrobatically nails a bloke in trailer, but Lynch is the one getting the grief. We know why.

    It is very telling indeed.
  • Posts: 5,767
    RC7 wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    At least he didn't say he prefers the Bond women when they look like porno.

    I do wonder about some peoples perceptions of women in general. The idea that a woman couldn't credibly kick a mans arse is somewhat ridiculous if they have skills.

    Also if Nomi was played by Ana then I could see this being a credible argument but Lynch has a much more statuesque physique and I think could look much more convincing taking out some men during the film.

    So why not?

    You get kicked in the nuts, you aren't getting up too quickly.

    I agree. But ironically I don’t think anyone would have an issue if it was Ana. She’s the one who acrobatically nails a bloke in trailer, but Lynch is the one getting the grief. We know why.
    The only thing we know for sure right now is that the ability to discuss opinions in a reasonable fashion is out for a walk. A long one it seems.

  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited December 2019 Posts: 4,521
    Lynch looks and sounds great in trailer. Get the idea she a bit like Pam and that both going on a mission aka Dr No and comments in trailers are made very clear she is woman with balls like Pam and Triple X.

    Blofeld is not bold yet because there must something happen first what make him losing his hair and face (so there can do recasting).
    if iam right i also have seen a computer making 3D print from him self.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    M_Balje wrote: »
    Lynch looks and sounds great in trailer. Get the idea she a bit like Pam and that both going on a mission aka Dr No and comments in trailers are made very clear she is woman with balls like Pam and Triple X.

    Blofeld is not bold yet because there must something happen first what make him losing his hair and face (so there can do recasting)

    It be cool if Blofeld lost all his hair at the end and what happened to his cat?
  • RC7RC7
    edited December 2019 Posts: 10,512
    boldfinger wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    At least he didn't say he prefers the Bond women when they look like porno.

    I do wonder about some peoples perceptions of women in general. The idea that a woman couldn't credibly kick a mans arse is somewhat ridiculous if they have skills.

    Also if Nomi was played by Ana then I could see this being a credible argument but Lynch has a much more statuesque physique and I think could look much more convincing taking out some men during the film.

    So why not?

    You get kicked in the nuts, you aren't getting up too quickly.

    I agree. But ironically I don’t think anyone would have an issue if it was Ana. She’s the one who acrobatically nails a bloke in trailer, but Lynch is the one getting the grief. We know why.
    The only thing we know for sure right now is that the ability to discuss opinions in a reasonable fashion is out for a walk. A long one it seems.

    Well there’s only one person here using the phrase ‘case closed’ and it certainly isn’t me, so perhaps you should direct your concerns at them.
  • edited December 2019 Posts: 654
    RC7 wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    At least he didn't say he prefers the Bond women when they look like porno.

    I do wonder about some peoples perceptions of women in general. The idea that a woman couldn't credibly kick a mans arse is somewhat ridiculous if they have skills.

    Also if Nomi was played by Ana then I could see this being a credible argument but Lynch has a much more statuesque physique and I think could look much more convincing taking out some men during the film.

    So why not?

    You get kicked in the nuts, you aren't getting up too quickly.

    I agree. But ironically I don’t think anyone would have an issue if it was Ana. She’s the one who acrobatically nails a bloke in trailer, but Lynch is the one getting the grief. We know why.
    The same thing that applies to Lynch applies even more so to DeArmas. Because she’s a stick figure compared to Lynch. Both women taking down guys left and right is a problem. My bigger issue with Lynch is the notion that she’s 007. That’s the hot-button topic! I don’t care if she’s another agent. But she can’t be 007 because then that makes her Jane Bond.

    007 should never be anyone other than James Bond. Yes that includes another WHITE MALE as well. No, Thomas Smith cannot be 007! Mr. Smith can have another number and another franchise.

  • RC7 wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    At least he didn't say he prefers the Bond women when they look like porno.

    I do wonder about some peoples perceptions of women in general. The idea that a woman couldn't credibly kick a mans arse is somewhat ridiculous if they have skills.

    Also if Nomi was played by Ana then I could see this being a credible argument but Lynch has a much more statuesque physique and I think could look much more convincing taking out some men during the film.

    So why not?

    You get kicked in the nuts, you aren't getting up too quickly.

    I agree. But ironically I don’t think anyone would have an issue if it was Ana. She’s the one who acrobatically nails a bloke in trailer, but Lynch is the one getting the grief. We know why.
    The same thing that applies to Lynch applies even more so to DeArmas. Because she’s a stick figure compared to Lynch. Both women taking down guys left and right is a problem. My bigger issue with Lynch is the notion that she’s 007. That’s the hot-button topic! I don’t care if she’s another agent. But she can’t be 007 because then that makes her Jane Bond.

    007 should never be anyone other than James Bond. Yes that includes another WHITE MALE as well. No, Thomas Smith cannot be 007! Mr. Smith can have another number and another franchise.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    edited December 2019 Posts: 3,126
    RC7 wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    At least he didn't say he prefers the Bond women when they look like porno.

    I do wonder about some peoples perceptions of women in general. The idea that a woman couldn't credibly kick a mans arse is somewhat ridiculous if they have skills.

    Also if Nomi was played by Ana then I could see this being a credible argument but Lynch has a much more statuesque physique and I think could look much more convincing taking out some men during the film.

    So why not?

    You get kicked in the nuts, you aren't getting up too quickly.

    I agree. But ironically I don’t think anyone would have an issue if it was Ana. She’s the one who acrobatically nails a bloke in trailer, but Lynch is the one getting the grief. We know why.
    The only thing we know for sure right now is that the ability to discuss opinions in a reasonable fashion is out for a walk. A long one it seems.

    Well there’s only one person here using the phrase ‘case closed’ and it certainly isn’t me, so perhaps you should direct your concerns at them.

    @boldfinger does have a point excluding that comeback any sort other opinion does get ridiculed but that's not for me to sort out that's the moderators jobs. Wasn't trying to throw the moderators under the bus though.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    Five days later-- I'm still having excited chills about this trailer.
  • edited December 2019 Posts: 654
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    At least he didn't say he prefers the Bond women when they look like porno.

    I do wonder about some peoples perceptions of women in general. The idea that a woman couldn't credibly kick a mans arse is somewhat ridiculous if they have skills.

    Also if Nomi was played by Ana then I could see this being a credible argument but Lynch has a much more statuesque physique and I think could look much more convincing taking out some men during the film.

    So why not?

    You get kicked in the nuts, you aren't getting up too quickly.

    I agree. But ironically I don’t think anyone would have an issue if it was Ana. She’s the one who acrobatically nails a bloke in trailer, but Lynch is the one getting the grief. We know why.
    The only thing we know for sure right now is that the ability to discuss opinions in a reasonable fashion is out for a walk. A long one it seems.

    Well there’s only one person here using the phrase ‘case closed’ and it certainly isn’t me, so perhaps you should direct your concerns at them.

    @boldfinger does have a point excluding that comeback any sort other opinion does get ridiculed but that's not for me to sort out that's the moderators jobs. Wasn't trying to throw the moderators under the bus though.
    Exactly! Because apparently if I have a problem with Lynch it must be because she’s black. Funny that May Day is one of my favorite characters. Or that I must have negative view of women if butt-kicking women in films aren’t my cup of tea or that I don’t find it believable. Go figure. Despite all that I think the trailer looks fantastic and I can’t wait to see the film!! As long as Bond is still DOUBLE-OH-SEVEN! As he was written to be.

    And yes I’m a happily married man who loves his wife dearly. We just live in a PC environment where voicing one’s views is a sin, hence all this knee-jerk backlash. Didn’t use to be this way. Oh well...

  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    peter wrote: »
    Five days later-- I'm still having excited chills about this trailer.
    Have to say, they really should've released a proper teaser a month or two back. It was a bit jarring going from knowing nothing and seeing no footage to seeing/knowing a lot in the span of two minutes. A build up in marketing would've been more effective in creating hype around the film. That said, the footage itself is fantastic.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,218
    jake24 wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Five days later-- I'm still having excited chills about this trailer.
    Have to say, they really should've released a proper teaser a month or two back. It was a bit jarring going from knowing nothing and seeing no footage to seeing/knowing a lot in the span of two minutes. A build up in marketing would've been more effective in creating hype around the film. That said, the footage itself is fantastic.

    Absolutely. My senses were overloaded last Wednesday. Which is why I wasn't sure about the trailer on first viewing but I can't stop watching it now.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited December 2019 Posts: 5,970
    Hey people, I'm gonna be taking a bit of a break from the site for a bit...

    It's quickly becoming something I'm not interested in, with discussions I'm not interested in trying to understand so have a good one peeps :D I'll be back soon. Can't wait to see this film! :D :D :D
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited December 2019 Posts: 6,306
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    All I’m saying is that when a guy is beating the crap out of someone I find that more believable than when a woman does it. Again, how many women are Navy Seals?

    And as for the argument that it’s fantasy and make-believe it was Fleming who wrote this “fantasy” and he created 007 to be a white straight male. Not a black woman. Or any other permutation. It’s as simple as that. So Lashana being a fellow agent is one thing but being 007??? That’s a big NO-NO!! Just like there’s not a white female John Shaft.

    Because woman are restricted from certain military roles, eventhough we are just as capable.

    It's all this issue of replacing stuff that are recognizable to male franchises like the 007 logo or the DB5 to female roles they are so tied that when someone male or female else has in it won't sit right and general audiences get confused look at men in black as an example you have men in black as the title and you have a man and a woman on the cover. Wonder Women trailer just came out and you don't see the man taking things. I don't know it will all straighten its self out hopefully. As M says in License to Kill its thier mess have them deal with it. Probably got the qoute wrong. If we had nomi as 009 a continuation from Spectre that makes sense we wouldn't have this but no.

    How many women have been President? Therefore, we should never have a female President? Ridiculous.
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Matt007 wrote: »
    Just a thought about maleks character.

    IMO He is the one who Madeline talks about on the train in spectre. The man in the mask has skin disease or whatever and later Malek clearly has scarring, like acne.

    That would be maybe a twenty year gap. Is there a possibility Malek is using genetics to prolong his own life. Or even make clones of himself. (I don’t like the last idea so much feels a bit Die Another Day)

    “My skills will live on...”

    This seems to play into that idea too.

    I think the cloning hypothesis was generated by questions about who the girl is in the opening ice lake scenes. But I think we are all certain now that the girl is indeed a young Madeleine and the opening is simply set some 20 years or so in the past. And so I suspect, no cloning, but Malek is exploiting genetics to prolong his life and also for another much bigger scheme, hence his line, "My skills will live on..."

    That makes a lot of sense and would be very Peter Thiel (Halcyon):

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/11/28/no-death-no-taxes
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited December 2019 Posts: 4,585
    I can't believe how "off the rails" this discussion has gone.

    It does not matter what Nomi's 00 is. Even if she is at first a new "007" we know that it will quickly be reclaimed. There is no way EON is going to separate "James Bond" from "007." The 007 logo was right there, on the first marketing poster. It is 007.com that is the "home" of James Bond.

    James Bond is 007. Always was, always has been, always will be.

  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    jake24 wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Five days later-- I'm still having excited chills about this trailer.
    Have to say, they really should've released a proper teaser a month or two back. It was a bit jarring going from knowing nothing and seeing no footage to seeing/knowing a lot in the span of two minutes. A build up in marketing would've been more effective in creating hype around the film. That said, the footage itself is fantastic.

    Absolutely. My senses were overloaded last Wednesday. Which is why I wasn't sure about the trailer on first viewing but I can't stop watching it now.
    Exactly.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    TripAces wrote: »
    I can't believe how "off the rails" this discussion has gone.

    It does not matter what Nomi's 00 is. Even if she is at first a new "007" we know that it will quickly be reclaimed. There is no way EON is going to separate "James Bond" from "007." The 007 logo was right there, on the first marketing poster. It is 007.com that is the "home" of James Bond.

    James Bond is 007. Always was, always has been, always will be.

    @TripAces sounds like music to my ears
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    edited December 2019 Posts: 3,126
    echo wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    All I’m saying is that when a guy is beating the crap out of someone I find that more believable than when a woman does it. Again, how many women are Navy Seals?

    And as for the argument that it’s fantasy and make-believe it was Fleming who wrote this “fantasy” and he created 007 to be a white straight male. Not a black woman. Or any other permutation. It’s as simple as that. So Lashana being a fellow agent is one thing but being 007??? That’s a big NO-NO!! Just like there’s not a white female John Shaft.

    Because woman are restricted from certain military roles, eventhough we are just as capable.

    It's all this issue of replacing stuff that are recognizable to male franchises like the 007 logo or the DB5 to female roles they are so tied that when someone male or female else has in it won't sit right and general audiences get confused look at men in black as an example you have men in black as the title and you have a man and a woman on the cover. Wonder Women trailer just came out and you don't see the man taking things. I don't know it will all straighten its self out hopefully. As M says in License to Kill its thier mess have them deal with it. Probably got the qoute wrong. If we had nomi as 009 a continuation from Spectre that makes sense we wouldn't have this but no.

    How many women have been President? Therefore, we should never have a female President? Ridiculous.
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Matt007 wrote: »
    Just a thought about maleks character.

    IMO He is the one who Madeline talks about on the train in spectre. The man in the mask has skin disease or whatever and later Malek clearly has scarring, like acne.

    That would be maybe a twenty year gap. Is there a possibility Malek is using genetics to prolong his own life. Or even make clones of himself. (I don’t like the last idea so much feels a bit Die Another Day)

    “My skills will live on...”

    This seems to play into that idea too.

    I think the cloning hypothesis was generated by questions about who the girl is in the opening ice lake scenes. But I think we are all certain now that the girl is indeed a young Madeleine and the opening is simply set some 20 years or so in the past. And so I suspect, no cloning, but Malek is exploiting genetics to prolong his life and also for another much bigger scheme, hence his line, "My skills will live on..."

    That makes a lot of sense and would be very Peter Thiel (Halcyon):

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/11/28/no-death-no-taxes

    @echo what? Where did politics come in you can't apply one thing to everything. The president and Bond are too different things this is about marketing a film and direction of a franchise. Bond being so tied to 007 like aligning the Aston Martin to Bond because that's (the only number he's had and nobody else and no one else should like wonder woman's suit) and too a mostly male audience and as a male character vs the president is a job like m where you can have men and women. This about a franchise not a political office. Sure let's just boot Bond out and call it the Nomi franchise now because so we can all pat ourselves on the back to say see look at us we are championing women at the expense of men cheers comrades feel better now everyone can stop ridiculing us for being snobby white male grossness women are the future all men need to die. ;) if it's just a plot point and only for this film I'm good. I liked the trailer by the way. @TripAces says it best with the comments.
  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
    Posts: 871
    1. I am not a big fan of women kicking butt in Bond films.

    2. Which is quite strange because I absolutely love tough and strong women in other movies and fiction. Modesty Blaise is my favourite fictional character after James Bond.

    But for some inexplicable reason, I don't particularly like having such women in Bond movies, so don't be too quick to label people as sexist or racist for not expressing huge enthusiasm for Nomi and Paloma.
  • RC7RC7
    edited December 2019 Posts: 10,512
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    At least he didn't say he prefers the Bond women when they look like porno.

    I do wonder about some peoples perceptions of women in general. The idea that a woman couldn't credibly kick a mans arse is somewhat ridiculous if they have skills.

    Also if Nomi was played by Ana then I could see this being a credible argument but Lynch has a much more statuesque physique and I think could look much more convincing taking out some men during the film.

    So why not?

    You get kicked in the nuts, you aren't getting up too quickly.

    I agree. But ironically I don’t think anyone would have an issue if it was Ana. She’s the one who acrobatically nails a bloke in trailer, but Lynch is the one getting the grief. We know why.
    The only thing we know for sure right now is that the ability to discuss opinions in a reasonable fashion is out for a walk. A long one it seems.

    Well there’s only one person here using the phrase ‘case closed’ and it certainly isn’t me, so perhaps you should direct your concerns at them.

    @boldfinger does have a point excluding that comeback any sort other opinion does get ridiculed but that's not for me to sort out that's the moderators jobs. Wasn't trying to throw the moderators under the bus though.

    Perhaps people should think about how they articulate things. A lot of and bluster about nothing as far as I can see.
    1. I am not a big fan of women kicking butt in Bond films.

    2. Which is quite strange because I absolutely love tough and strong women in other movies and fiction. Modesty Blaise is my favourite fictional character after James Bond.

    But for some inexplicable reason, I don't particularly like having such women in Bond movies, so don't be too quick to label people as sexist or racist for not expressing huge enthusiasm for Nomi and Paloma.

    I don’t think that’s inexplicable.

    Anyway this has gone off the rails somewhat.

    @peter - what I love most is how we’re thrown straight into the action. Didn’t expect that. It’s got real energy to it. Favourite bit is without doubt Safin’s lair. Can’t wait to see how that plays out.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    Posts: 2,541
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    All I’m saying is that when a guy is beating the crap out of someone I find that more believable than when a woman does it. Again, how many women are Navy Seals?

    And as for the argument that it’s fantasy and make-believe it was Fleming who wrote this “fantasy” and he created 007 to be a white straight male. Not a black woman. Or any other permutation. It’s as simple as that. So Lashana being a fellow agent is one thing but being 007??? That’s a big NO-NO!! Just like there’s not a white female John Shaft.

    Because woman are restricted from certain military roles, eventhough we are just as capable.

    It's all this issue of replacing stuff that are recognizable to male franchises like the 007 logo or the DB5 to female roles they are so tied that when someone male or female else has in it won't sit right and general audiences get confused look at men in black as an example you have men in black as the title and you have a man and a woman on the cover. Wonder Women trailer just came out and you don't see the man taking things. I don't know it will all straighten its self out hopefully. As M says in License to Kill its thier mess have them deal with it. Probably got the qoute wrong. If we had nomi as 009 a continuation from Spectre that makes sense we wouldn't have this but no.

    How many women have been President? Therefore, we should never have a female President? Ridiculous.
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Matt007 wrote: »
    Just a thought about maleks character.

    IMO He is the one who Madeline talks about on the train in spectre. The man in the mask has skin disease or whatever and later Malek clearly has scarring, like acne.

    That would be maybe a twenty year gap. Is there a possibility Malek is using genetics to prolong his own life. Or even make clones of himself. (I don’t like the last idea so much feels a bit Die Another Day)

    “My skills will live on...”

    This seems to play into that idea too.

    I think the cloning hypothesis was generated by questions about who the girl is in the opening ice lake scenes. But I think we are all certain now that the girl is indeed a young Madeleine and the opening is simply set some 20 years or so in the past. And so I suspect, no cloning, but Malek is exploiting genetics to prolong his life and also for another much bigger scheme, hence his line, "My skills will live on..."

    That makes a lot of sense and would be very Peter Thiel (Halcyon):

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/11/28/no-death-no-taxes

    @echo what? Where did politics come in you can't apply one thing to everything. The president and Bond are too different things this is about marketing a film and direction of a franchise. Bond being so tied to 007 like aligning the Aston Martin to Bond because that's (the only number he's had and nobody else and no one else should like wonder woman's suit) and too a mostly male audience and as a male character vs the president is a job like m where you can have men and women. This about a franchise not a political office. Sure let's just boot Bond out and call it the Nomi franchise now because so we can all pat ourselves on the back to say see look at us we are championing women at the expense of men cheers comrades feel better now everyone can stop ridiculing us for being snobby white male grossness women are the future all men need to die. ;) if it's just a plot point and only for this film I'm good. I liked the trailer by the way. @TripAces says it best with the comments.

    This.
    I have said it before and going to say it again we should wait for April, then all the criticism can be done in a fair manner. Reaching to the conclusion with just a trailer is not cool. As @00Agent said bond may have a comeback in that scene with Nomi which may make it more interesting.
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