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Purvis and Wade always assume that they’re writing their last one. They want to move on. It’s time they above else should.
Plus, we (and EON) have 40 books with new material to use for entertainment.
You mean Cec Linder wasn't really standing in front of that KFC in Kentucky? LOL! Was that a paid product placement? :)
Yes they had the strong novels at the start! When you think of the quality though DN, FRWL, GF and TB all released within 3 years (1962-1965) Add to it that Connery was able to star in other films while also shooting them. Very impressive indeed.
I suppose LALD and TMWTGG are the arguments against rushing something out. TMWTGG suffered most likely from the rushed schedule to get one out. It caused the first three year gap in the series. Course they just copied YOLT basic plot and then copied it again for MR. :)
Eon had an old unfinished Purvis and wade script and Craig still contracted when Boyle left, fukunaga and the rest I feel we’re put together in a hurry.
Judging from the trailer we’re getting more of skyfall and Spectre with a hint of something new maybe.
I think the plot is going to end up a mcgauffin and forgotten halfway thru , the film looks beautiful and Is polished looking this as well as the writing from phoebe will be the films stronger points
Let’s hope that isn’t the case @Safin_Unmasked
Yup
This.
I don't believe I claimed to think anything otherwise, @Birdleson :)
The same as TB-YOLT and DAF-LALD.
Yes, and in the same vein you often read that the big gap from TMWTGG to TSWLM was unprecedented, when in reality it was just a month more than YOLT_OHMSS, not even a full month I think.
On that front, I think if they returned to two year release dates we'd see more stability of the crew. I also think you could improve the continuity. I wonder in this next film how they bring the general public up to speed after the long gap.
It's funny, i said to my wife the other day that this film was a continuation of the events of SP, when Bond drove off at the end to retire with the love of his life...i got a puzzled look then "I don't remember that at all!"
I asked her what did she remember?
"Er..the day of the dead in Mexico..." :))
Had the same conversation with my Mother the other day at lunch when she saw Swann's photo while looking through the Empire magazine.
"I thought she left him, no?"
"No, they drove off in the DB5 together. Remember?"
"The DB5? Didn't that get blown up?"
Mind you, she often confuses characters from Star Trek with those from Star Wars, and vice versa. So...
I have said before the right writer can develop a great script from one throwaway line from fleming... for example Bond investigating the security of a base (which is why bond was in the seychilles islands in The Hildebrand Rarity) could make for an interesting real world plot... hell the plot of 007 in new york (bond having to tell a young female agent her bf is a double agent) could also be streteched into a 2 hour movie based on a good enough writer.
so what does this have to do with bond being filmed every other year.. Well I feel like if we had a good creative writing team going back to fleming and taking the unused parts of the novels and turning them into films in their own right we should be able to at least do another 14 films one coming out every other year... if people don't believe me I would be more then happy to go through the novels and prove it...
actually screw it I am bored at work so here with titles are what could easily be the next 14 bond films
The Silver Phantom: A terrorist organization is smuggling Pirate gold and various other religious artifacts to fund terrorist activities (plot taken from Live and let die)
The Hildebrand Rarity: Bond must investigate the safety of a base before a United Nations Summit meets there (plot somewhat borrowed from the short story but amped up)
Risico: Bond is framed for murder and has to clear his name while both terrorist and agents are after him (plot also borrowed from The Hildebrand Rarity)
The Diamond Smugglers: Bond investigates the Spangled Mob an organization who smuggles diamonds in order to pay for terrorist attacks (Plot taken from Diamonds are forever)
A whisper of Hate: M asks Bond for help in Killing the man who kidnaped his daughter (plot taken from essentially For Your eyes only)
The Property of A Lady: after the death of 2 agents carrying vital information 007 is dispatched to discover how they are being killed and who is killing them (Plot taken From the short story From a View to a Kill)
My Enemies Enemy: Bond is brainwashed and sent to kill M (plot taken from The man with the golden Gun)
Fork Left for Hell: Bond uncovers a plot to destroy the grain and Sugar crop industry (unused elemtes of The man with the golden gun)
Garden of Death: Bond is tasked with killing Dr Gutham Von Shatterhand who uses his Garden of death to kill the locals (unused elements of You only live twice)
007 In New York: Bond has 90 minute to stop a double agent from killing the president of the united states and an Mi6 agent. (adapted from 007 in new York but amped up a bit obviously)
And that is 10 I could do more but I figure let someone else have some fun
The difference to me is that the '60s still benefited from the studio system mentality, under which most of the principals (Maibaum especially, but also Broccoli, Saltzman, etc.) worked. The mentality was basically "Churn them out." So they had a Bond mini-studio during that era.
But now the studio system (and sadly, Maibaum) is gone...and the studio shakeups have caused many of the delays. True, there is the Marvel stranglehold but that is a bit of an outlier. Couple that with star demands and prestige director scheduling, and here we are in 2020.
I'd estimate that 3-year waits will be the norm, going forward. A new Bond in 2023, then the usual quick follow-up to cement his portrayal in 2025, then three years so 2028 and 2031 as he gets more and more popular and in demand for other films. That's presuming no studio upheaval.
Or will the next Bond do only three films? If we're counting each Eon Bond's tenure...
With the current climate, it's very hard to predict what will happen. But I'd be happy with a three year break between entries. If (in relation to the purpose of the thread), we went back to two, I'm not sure the films would stand out as much in an over saturated market. Though, admittedly, even if it was two, they'd still feel more special than a Star Wars or a Marvel entry. But I don't think that sort of momentum would benefit the Bond films, quality wise. That extra year would make all the difference.
Say, worst case scenario, they pick an actor for B26 and the public doesn't like him (unlikely). Eon could woo Craig back for one more for B27 two years later, just like OHMSS-DAF. But they couldn't wait too long, given Craig's age...or maybe Craig, if they reboot, could be the new M?
Still, I think Lazenby will always be a one-off in terms of casting "missteps." As Moore et al proved, the brand is now stronger than any one actor. That wasn't necessarily the case in 1969.
So four, perhaps five, more films before everything changes.
After 2034 Ian Fleming’s novels will be out of copyright, and any film studio and tv channel can make a new version of any Bond novel they want, set in any period, with any actor on their books as Bond, with any Fleming villain and love interest they like.
I always loved those particular chapter titles: The Silver Phantom and Fork Left for Hell.
My Enemy's Enemy is great as well.
I'd substitute 007 in New York for the main title of the travelogue in which it appeared: Thrilling Cities. For some reason I always liked the title: Thrilling Cities.
A couple more chapter titles I think would make great Bond film titles: The Elegant Venus and Seascape With Figures.
the book's actual copyright and filming rights are 2 completely different things...
no other studio would be able to take CR for example - the novel - and make their own James Bond movie.. the film rights to the character of James Bond, and any derivative property still belongs to EON/Danjaq and MGM..
with the novel's copyright expiring, that means the book itself is up to be reprinted by anyone - and it's possible a film could be adapted from the material, but the names of the characters and everything there in would have to be changed - it's all rather messy..
But Disney is pushing hard for something akin to a "forever copyright" because Mickey Mouse is set to become public domain in 2024 - so this will be very interesting to watch the results of - especially for us Bond fans.. because if Disney is successful at keeping Mickey from Public Domain, then it's possible a lot more organizations with iconic properties will try to follow suit.
Would Lazenby have been a casting misstep, had he not been so petulant? I think most would agree OHMSS is one of the shining lights of the series, and Lazenby played his part in that.
Admittedly he wasn't a great actor, but he may have grown if he had continued.
Anyway apologies for going off topic.