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Was Moore considered in 1968/69 or was he committed to The Saint and couldn't do it?
Actually, it's in 1969, after Connery left the role, they considered doing TMWTGG and planning to hire Moore as Bond, yes The Saint did kept him from playing Bond at the time, but not just that, there's also a Civil War happening in Cambodia at the time, so that also prevented the plan to film TMWTGG.
Peter Hunt was appointed as the director for the next film, and like what they did with Roald Dahl, they've asked Hunt on what Bond novel would he liked to adapt, and Hunt picked OHMSS because he liked the story, and the rest is history.
How do you know that Roald Dahl personally chose to adapt YOLT? I thought it was because of Bond’s unexpected popularity with Japan audiences. Dahl said it was Fleming’s worst book. There were better books for him to adapt.
Great stuff and lots of fodder for what-if scenarios!
Maybe it would be pointless to see a Dalton OHMSS, or a Brosnan CR, if it were animated and not live action. Still could be cool.
What if Irma Bunt didn't kill Tracy?
What if Bond rescued Vesper in time?
What if Bond joined Trevelyan on his plan?
Actually that's a pretty easy what if: what if '65 winter had been colder in Switzerland? With better skiing conditions, Eon would have then probably sticked with this novel rather than YOLT. Gilbert was seemingly already hired to direct the movie, no matter the novel chosen. Released at the height of Bondmania, the movie probably would have focused more on gadgets, something already reflected by Maibaum's draft from the time that included an amphibious Aston Martin that allows Bond to save Tracy from drowning. Ultimately, I think it would have been Connery's last no matter what, but, by not going to Japan, the experience would still have been more pleasant for him.
So a wet Nellie before a wet nellie? I wonder how would that work though 😅
Here how it is described in Matthew Field's Some Kind of Hero:
No way! This could or even would! have been more worse!
Thankfully this didn't happen.
I doubt however that all of these ideas would have been kept. The Goldfinger's brother was for example rejected twice (most notably during DAF pre-production when Maibaun went as far as writing a treatment with this idea). But it reflects the spirit of that time and how OHMSS would have been approached for a 1967 release date, with Gilbert as the director (even though he didn't seem to have been involved with these scripts). I also guess Diana Rigg wouldn't have been chosen for the part of Tracy, since her casting was made to balance Lazenby's inexperience. With Connery in the role, I guess they would have went for a unknown actress. Someone like Karin Dor (Helga Brandt in YOLT, who also appeared in Hitchcock's Topaz).
Apparently Eon didn't want to do OHMSS right after TB because it was too similar: "Thunderball on skis." Whatever that means.
Anyway, Hunt was a genius for choosing OHMSS because (1) it's arguably the best and most filmic novel and (2) downbeat endings were in vogue in the late '60s, so he was able to do a true adaptation.
True, and I wouldn't like that to happen, Diana Rigg is perfect in the role, leave that alone.
Brigitte Bardot??? :)) No way! She and Connery had no chemistry, and she also lacked some acting skills.
So, nah! I wouldn't and couldn't trade Diana Rigg, she's a perfection!
Probably. I daresay he would have made a great OHMSS, which could have made his whole tenure a dash darker.
Agreed with Moore, though my only doubt was the physicality part where he seemed not good of.
I would *leave* it as it is.
Now let's turn to the other side of the bottle, how do you guys think Brosnan would have fared in Casino Royale?
Personally I think Pierce could’ve pulled off Casino Royale, and he would’ve done it splendidly, but I wouldn’t trade Craig’s version for the world, and I say that as a Brosnan fanboy.
Someone really wanted to use that Goldfinger's brother idea, didn't they? Anyway, most of that sounds absolutely stupid. I do like the idea of von Sydow playing Blofeld though.
It's interesting that most of us tend to speculate what a version of OHMSS with Connery would have looked like, or indeed what would have happened if it had been made earlier. I wonder, however, what OHMSS would have looked like if it had been made later, say in the 70s? The novel of course centres around a slightly older, more jaded Bond so it makes sense. DAF and subsequent films are in themselves a reaction to OHMSS, so I dunno how the series would have progressed without OHMSS.
While it makes sense for the actual movie to go back to Bond's beginnings, I think the whole plot could have still be relevant with a seasoned agent who over time has closed in on himself and thinks he has become invulnerable from the feelings point of view... But who falls in love on an apparently basic mission. At the same time, because he is seasoned and aging, he would think all the more of leaving everything to live with Vesper, thinking that he must leave his job while he can or he will die alone. All in all it could have been a great send-off for Brosnan.
I mean, Brosnan had never been gave a chance to show his meaty acting (If I called that correctly).
I think Brosnan could have done something more in his Bond role, there's something inside of it (think of TWINE), but the Producers never gave him a chance, he's butchered with scripts that was made because of the trends.
I agree! I couldn't said it better.
Well put!
I don't think so, but what i know is that it wouldn't be called "Quantum Of Solace".
These treatments have been described in both Charles Helfenstein's Making of The Living Daylights and Mark Edlitz's The Lost Adventures of James Bond. Set in Southeast Asia during the 1970s, they involved Bond being mentored by a senior 00-agent named Burton Trevor with whom he is tasked to infiltrate a Golden Triangle warlord's inner circles in order to kill him. So, what if Bond 15 was a prequel?