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@Shardlake is 100% correct. Doesn't change that I would have loved it myself. :D
Interestingly, Julie Andrews declined making a cameo in “Mary Poppins Returns” (2018) for the very reasons that I’m glad Connery wasn’t asked. According to Ms. Andrews, the minute her face appeared on screen in the proposed cameo, the viewing public would likely say – “Ah… there is the real Mary Poppins!” – and the rest of the movie would just collapse of its’ own weight. And that wouldn’t be fair to the current set of actors. "This is Emily's (Emily Blunt) show, and I really want it to be Emily's show."
None of the former Bond actors should ever have a cameo in the series outside of the lead role. This isn't Dr. Who. Certain other characters, perhaps or call backs to Tracy or Vesper. Another rumor during the filming of TWINE I recall was all the former Bond girls were going to make an appearance at some party scene or something.
Yeah for DAD. Tamahori came up with the idea that during the interrogation General Moon holds up a photo of Connery telling Brosnan "you can return to your father if you tell us", a photo which was confiscated from Bond when captured. The real kicker is that it would reveal that Connery is not only Bond's father but was the very same man we saw in the 1960s Bond films, because Tamahori was pretty big on the code name theory. Obviously that was rejected by EON.
Thank goodness that didn't happen.
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Very interesting thought. I see most agree that it would be stunt casting of the highest order. I wouldn't have minded it but it would have been distracting. The trumped up little mod edit line would probably get even more of a laugh.
OTT is Kincaid (as Connery) said "I see you kept the car (motioning to the DB5) I gave you." :)
Which reminds me how is this DB5 even in this timeline of Bond?
Fanwanked into existence by Mendes? Smarter men than I have lost their minds trying to solve this puzzle.
Andrew James Bond retired from MI6 to Scotland, took the DB5 from Q Branch with him, married Monique Delacroix, had a baby boy (James Bond, named after himself), died in a climbing accident (or was it Operation Steel Cartridge?), James Bond was raised by Kincade and Oberhauser, grew up and joined the service, promoted to 00 by killing Carter and Dryden, swung by his dad's old car when he needed it in SF. ;)
Yeesh. Sounds like we got off easy with the CGI surfing.
My fan theory about the DB5 he won in CR since we never see it again: Bond simply sold it off.
This is of course true but the fan speculation is still fun.
I like to think after QOS that Craig had a ton of adventures comparable to DN-DAD, more or less.
Is there much info regarding MGW’s original pitch? Was it still going to use the short story “The Living Daylights” as the basis but now with Bond on his first assignment? Would it be a period piece/prequel to the preceding films or serve as a reboot updated for the 1980s? What actor in 1987 would have perfectly embodied the more egotistical Bond that’s a diamond in the rough? Would M and Q have still been played by Robert Brown and Desmond Llewelyn much like how Dench still returned to the part? Would it have had a similar PTS to CR with Bond on his first two kills?
All very interesting stuff to think over. I’m ultimately glad Cubby decided not to take the direction at that time and instead focus on Bond in his prime with Dalton. Still, would have been an interesting angle to take at the time, especially contrasting with the previous film featuring a 57 year Old Roger Moore.
I do agree with Cubby that the audiences in 1987 wouldn't have wanted to see Bond become Bond. In fact as a rule I am not in favour of these "origin" stories that Hollywood seems to want to keep pushing out.
I'm glad this never happened, though.
Bond: So you'll always have to.
I'm not sure I follow this comment @Benjamin_Weekly69 Nice avatar by the way.
*Hans Zimmer music kicks in*
There's an extensive plot summary of the Bond origin script in Charles Helfenstein's book The Making of The Living Daylights, which is highly recommended. This script did not use any of Fleming's short story and was a completely different story. At the start it shows how Bond, an impulsive loose cannon, joined the secret service; then the story shifts to the far east to show Bond learning the ropes from a jaded older agent.
The script, whose tone seems lighter than that of CR, definitely shows an Indiana Jones influence, and some of its ideas would later be considered but ultimately discarded in the early drafts of what became LTK. I think Cubby Broccoli made the right decision in rejecting the concept. The scenario of Bond's origins doesn't really add anything to the character or give the audience essential information. The script would have been useful for no more than introducing a young actor as Bond.
The first bit of the script where Bond is getting chucked out of places etc. seems the most interesting: they could have focused on him a bit more I think rather than the slightly strange Chinese plot. And if I remember there's an idea for a pre-title sequence/stunt which sounds pretty rubbish.
I don't dislike the idea of doing a Bond Begins story, but this particular one didn't seem quite there.
@Thunderfinger brings us our next discussion idea! (if you would like to suggest one please in box me and I will add it to a future discussion.)
As we all know the original producers were an American and a Canadian. Cubby and Harry formed an unlikely alliance and get the series off the ground back in 1962. They knew the Bond from the books and saw some of the potential. However they didn't have the British sensibility. What if the original producers had been British? What difference would this had made to the series? What impact would this have had on the first films of the series?
What say you Mi6?? What if the first producers of the series had been British instead of North American?
Maybe Pierce would have made a good choice had they gone down that route of the origin story, with his baby face and given his age. Although I like Brosnan as Bond, I do doubt he would have had the acting jobs to pull off such a dark origin story at that point in his career