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Agree. I would have preferred more subtle hints of the Alien universe, and fewer overt and IMHO less effective links.
Black goo (WMD)--has acidic properties (that we will later see in Xenomorph's blood). Worms interact with black goo and create creature #1 that attacks two dumb scientists. Creature #1 seems to be a red herring that doesn't lead anywhere.
Robot infects Holloway with black goo (with or without worms? There are the "little worms" in Holloway's eyes). Holloway impregnates Shaw. Shaw removes creature #2 from her body.
Creator interacts with creature #2 to produce creature #3 (the Xenomorph). However, creature #2 mates with creator by going down its throat in the EXACT SAME MANNER as creature #1. WTF?!?
Yeah, I think I saw some
I'd have to blame poor script/direction on that part, for the acting was excellent.
Examples:
Spoiler ex. #1
Spoiler ex, #1.5/2
Spoiler ex. #2.5/3
Spoiler ex. #3.5/4
Those are my biggest issues. The majority of the films twists are brought on too quickly. Like they were rushed into the script. They all lead to dramatic, excellent scenes, but the build up and sudden drop off of the impact on the characters pulls me from the film. The characters experience the twist, and in the next scene are almost unaffected by it. It's extremely unbelievable.
While I liked all of the scenes in question, I feel like they focused too much on making the twist perfect, that they failed to build the story around it. Once the film is released, I'm going to make a personal cut which will skip most of these forgotten-by-the-script-and-characters twists and focus solely on the mission and where it goes wrong. I feel like if the film was JUST about
Again, I like all the scenes in question, but I wish they molded into the story better, and weren't so rushed and then forgotten.
Overall, 7/10
The good parts were David, Vickers, Rapace, and the base plot of the film. Didn't enjoy the twists due to poor execution.
Alien
Aliens
Prometheus
Alien3
The rest.
Good film BTW.
I don't think this films know's whether it wants to one or the other, while it starts out quite different as we edge closer to the end it starts to become very familiar and while I'm not saying that climatic battle between the two beings is as bad as Alien Resurrection's god awful sequence it did remind me somewhat of it.
That being said a number the cast are fine, Rapace handle herself well and Elba does an admirable job with what he's given but it is undoubtedly Fassbender who walks away with the film, delivering another exceptional reading that can definitely sit comfortably next to both Ian Holm's & Lance Henriksen's Android performance's in the franchise.
3/5
Absolutely. Stuff that is just about effects and nothing else can be fun in 3D. E.g. Resident Evil 4. As soon as something like storytelling enters, 3D is in the way.
I'm thinking if his grubby hands had been nowhere near it it might have had a chance, instead it's just another missed opportunity. As JWB said if it had been about a search for our origin and wanting to know why they wanted us dead this would have been much more refreshing an original.
The idea that the planet was the engineers laboratory for constructing a biological weapon and it had gone wrong was great and we presume this being LV233 that the experiment on LV 426 was a far more advanced version that had pretty much been perfected although unfortunately to this Engineers misfortune a little too effectively.
These points could have been more subtle and in the background and been noticed by them that know but not obtrusive enough to people coming to the story fresh, my conclusions are that this film cannot stand on it's own and it relies far too much on the mythology of the series. I can only hope if they green light a sequel, Lindelof will have nothing to do with it and it will strike in more original territory. Poor Ridley, once a again a great visual director who is crippled by collaborating with people who aren't on same page quality wise I can only think of 3 films where he has been served well in all departments and the overall product has been consistent, them being his debut The Duelists, Alien & Bladerunner.
Also saw this in 2D could see no reason to pay more during it's duration and visually it's very impressive.
After reading some (spoiler free) reviews I really had no desire to see it (I was on the fence before) but my girlfriend was quite excited by it. So it wasn't a case of having huge expectations. If anything, that sometimes helps - I had no desire to see Cabin in the Woods but I ended up loving it (again, my girlfriend really wanted to see it). I see that on some websites such as The Onion's AV Club most people didn't like it but there are a minority who are, IMHO, bending over backwards to try to explain away plot holes and unbelievably stupid decisions made by characters. Sometimes someone is so stoked by something and they *want* to like it so badly that they make themselves willfully blind to certain things in the film - I saw this with some friends (usually with sci-fi movies) regarding, say, the Star Wars prequels.
A bit of context - while I'm a bit older I was too young for Alien when it first came out. I saw it when Aliens was a huge pop-culture phenomenon when I was a teen. I was quite impressed by it although it seemed a little "small" to me - perhaps because it had been built up so much in the years afterwards. I saw it again when the Director's Cut was played in theatres (10 years ago?) and I liked it even more. I thought that it was an exceptionally well-made thriller that built the tension very well. I loved Aliens when it came out and I thought that Alien3 was a huge letdown - I appreciate the *idea* of trying to go back to more of a feel of the original but it felt like a chore watching it. I thought that Alien Resurrection was okay but nothing more - and it was definitely one trip to the well too many.
There was a great bit in the AV Club's review where they likened Prometheus to the Star Wars prequels. While the technology has improved allowing a much better look at a "larger universe" than the original film, there has also been 30 years of, for lack of a better word, over-thinking how to better explore themes of the original. Sometimes less is more.
I thought that the film started very well. It took its time to set everything up well, explained some character motivation (although in far too clumsy a way for Rapace's character) and set up the environment of the ship in a very clear manner. But shortly afterwards the film devolves into people making ludicrously bad decisions, plot points telegraphed with a sledgehammer, people being a-holes simply for the sake of being a-holes (because, you know, we need *some* kind of antagonists right from the beginning), some shockingly bad acting. Also, plot points are brought up and then dropped, huge things happen either emotionally or physically and then a couple of minutes later it's no big deal, and things that require an explanation are never explained (I appreciate mystery and I like when a film trusts the intelligence of its audience, but there's a huge difference between that and just letting things be different from scene to scene).
The scenery and set design are beautiful, the SFX are fantastic, and Fassbender gives an excellent performance (in fact, I'm far more sold on him being a credible Bond after this film - to me wearing a 1960s grey suit does not a Bond make, else John Hamm (!) would be a great Bond). The 3D worked quite well with the film - it added to the atmosphere and was never used for cheap in-your-face scares). But there is so much of the film that is bad - not a lack of good things, but actually bad.
Apologies for not mentioning specifically what I did and did not like about the film - I trying to be spoiler free. One thing I will say though - when the very first scene in the film is mysterious and intriguing but then never really explained, and fans have to rely on an interview with the director to know its meaning (!) that tells you a lot that you need to know about the film...
You could look to mine on page 3, I spoiler tagged them, but detailed what didn't really fit.
The film was good. Pretty slow at times and just wasn't as great as it was hyped up to be. One time watch for me.
Here's a post-release viral for 'Prometheus', with Guy Ritchie out of his makeup. What does 10/11/12 mean?
http://www.slashfilm.com/prometheus-viral-continues-peter-weyland-ready-ted-talk-101112/
I thought Prometheus was alright, myself. I don't feel the need to slate it like some others have done.
Both The Dark Knight Rises and Skyfall are going to be real winners, with the critics at least.
Not actually seen the movie yet, but has Scott said he is doing another two films then? So it links up with the other films?
That's Scott's plan. This one has to bring in enough money first, so far everything looks OK. We'll get a second film.
This is exactly the level of hype that may well hurt TDKR and Skyfall. The hype concerning these 2 films is so big, people will be disappointed even if these films are 'great'. People are expecting so much 2 'perfect' films for TDKR and Skyfall, that there will be major disappointment if SF and TDKR are only 'great' films.
James Bond films never appear to heavily let me down, and I'm sure my hype for the film will grow as the months go by. I have seen two trailers for 'The Dark Knight Rises' and that's it. I don't know anything else about the film; thus, I'm not hyped. I know it will be good, but I haven't followed the film too much, to the point that the film has to be absolute perfection for me to truly be happy with it.
Unfortunately, 'The Dark Knight' was so amazing, that's my other fear about its sequel: I just don't know if it can be better than it. Time will tell.
Cool! That i did not know!
That's what I've been saying. Too much hype could make the film a let down no matter how good the film is.
You are correct.
You should go out more often. ;)
Because the ending, which I won't spoil, didn't really set up Alien.