Prometheus (2012)

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    boldfinger wrote:
    That would be a fair approach, even if I usually find the theatrical version by far better than the extended version, The Abyss being the only exception so far...

    The extended cut of The Abyss is a MUCH more effective film than the theatrical release.

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    talos7 wrote:
    boldfinger wrote:
    That would be a fair approach, even if I usually find the theatrical version by far better than the extended version, The Abyss being the only exception so far...

    The extended cut of The Abyss is a MUCH more effective film than the theatrical release.

    As are the extended cuts from Camerons Aliens & Terminator 2

    And the directors cut (extended) of Kingdom of heaven by Ridley Scott is also superiour to the studios version.

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    SaintMark wrote:
    talos7 wrote:
    boldfinger wrote:
    That would be a fair approach, even if I usually find the theatrical version by far better than the extended version, The Abyss being the only exception so far...

    The extended cut of The Abyss is a MUCH more effective film than the theatrical release.

    As are the extended cuts from Camerons Aliens & Terminator 2

    And the directors cut (extended) of Kingdom of heaven by Ridley Scott is also superiour to the studios version.
    The Abyss is an exception insofar as literally every scene seems to be shorter in the theatrical version, whereas in the other films, the focus of the dc seems to have been on adding sections, which has a totally different effect.

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    boldfinger wrote:
    SaintMark wrote:
    talos7 wrote:
    boldfinger wrote:
    That would be a fair approach, even if I usually find the theatrical version by far better than the extended version, The Abyss being the only exception so far...

    The extended cut of The Abyss is a MUCH more effective film than the theatrical release.

    As are the extended cuts from Camerons Aliens & Terminator 2

    And the directors cut (extended) of Kingdom of heaven by Ridley Scott is also superiour to the studios version.
    The Abyss is an exception insofar as literally every scene seems to be shorter in the theatrical version, whereas in the other films, the focus of the dc seems to have been on adding sections, which has a totally different effect.

    With Aliens the story that was filmed got edited out, by putting them in the story made more sense and became fully rounded and filled up some of the plotholes and gave the bad cooperation even a more evil face..

    With Terminator 2 it was the same story, more background than before giving the movie more gravitas.

    And have you ever seen Kingdom of Heaven the studio version?- It is a poor movie. When the DC from Ridley Scott was released you saw a epic movie that got senselessy butchered by the Studios wishes. The DC was the movie that should have been released.

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    SaintMark wrote:
    boldfinger wrote:
    SaintMark wrote:
    talos7 wrote:
    boldfinger wrote:
    That would be a fair approach, even if I usually find the theatrical version by far better than the extended version, The Abyss being the only exception so far...

    The extended cut of The Abyss is a MUCH more effective film than the theatrical release.

    As are the extended cuts from Camerons Aliens & Terminator 2

    And the directors cut (extended) of Kingdom of heaven by Ridley Scott is also superiour to the studios version.
    The Abyss is an exception insofar as literally every scene seems to be shorter in the theatrical version, whereas in the other films, the focus of the dc seems to have been on adding sections, which has a totally different effect.

    With Aliens the story that was filmed got edited out, by putting them in the story made more sense and became fully rounded and filled up some of the plotholes and gave the bad cooperation even a more evil face..

    With Terminator 2 it was the same story, more background than before giving the movie more gravitas.

    And have you ever seen Kingdom of Heaven the studio version?- It is a poor movie. When the DC from Ridley Scott was released you saw a epic movie that got senselessy butchered by the Studios wishes. The DC was the movie that should have been released.
    As far as the content is concerned, I agree with you on all those films.
    As far as the tension arc of each respectable film is concerned, I disagree with you on all those films. And here is where The Abyss is so special IMO, the tension arc stays intact in the dc. In fact it even gets better, because the theatrical cut didn´t give the characters any time to breathe.
    I´m not saying those other dcs weren´t worth it, quite the opposite. But I tend to enjoy a clearly cut arc of a story, and that is most of the time the theatrical release.

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    For what it is worth I love the Abyss in the longer version as well.

    I did have all three the Cameron DC's on videotape before the dvd arrived and have searched for all of them on dvd as well. If you have seen the longer versions you cannot go back somehow.
  • edited March 2014 Posts: 5,767
    SaintMark wrote:
    For what it is worth I love the Abyss in the longer version as well.

    I did have all three the Cameron DC's on videotape before the dvd arrived and have searched for all of them on dvd as well. If you have seen the longer versions you cannot go back somehow.
    I´m in a fix with T2. The dc has this great role switch chapter, where Sarah Connor kind of turns into a terminator, while the theatrical cut is one straight adrenaline rush. And watching both versions alternatingly messes with me brain @-) .
    What I could try thought is restrict myself to one version for a few years, and then switch ;-).
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    Back to Prometheus, I really like and enjoy the movie. As with all of Ridley Scott movies it is beautifully filmed, when people love SF's Cinematography this movie is easily better looking.
    The fact that the movie does not really featur the Alien we all know and love is easily explainable when you see how the AvsP has plundered too much from the possibilties for future Alien movies.

    Instead Scott went for a movie about evolution of mankind and Alienkind and the pilots of the derelicts have a whole different view at the mankind of Earth. They actually see the human evolution as unwanted.

    In Prometheus 2 I would like to learn why they wanted to destroy mankind and how the Alien actually evolved into the Penishead we know.
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    Prometheus holds up incredibly well, I´m surprised how often I watched it already. It´s an amazing film, because despite it being so unbelievably full of illogic elements, it nevertheless manages to tell a fascinating story.
    SaintMark wrote:
    In Prometheus 2 I would like to learn why they wanted to destroy mankind and how the Alien actually evolved into the Penishead we know.
    Don´t we know that already? It changed its form with every film so far, so it stands to reason that everytime it, er, makes new Aliens, it blends the victim´s DNA with its own.

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