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I'm starting this thread because I love movies, and I have a special fondness for much older films (30s through 70s). Please feel free to run with this thread. I'm not on here a lot, but I'd enjoy this topic being discussed fully.
Many of you are better informed than me when it comes to movie scores (that is an understatement). I'd really enjoy you dissecting your favorite films - old or new - with the soundtrack/score being the main topic, please. Composers, background stories, video clips, please have at it. I'll go get some popcorn now. ;) Thanks (because I cannot be consistent on the forum; it's up to you to make this thread take off).
Here's a video of the music from a film I really loved from the first moment - and the music is absolutely perfect.
Lawrence of Arabia (1962) ~ composer Maurice Jarre.
a selection of the music ...
and brief clip from the film ...
Many of you are better informed than me when it comes to movie scores (that is an understatement). I'd really enjoy you dissecting your favorite films - old or new - with the soundtrack/score being the main topic, please. Composers, background stories, video clips, please have at it. I'll go get some popcorn now. ;) Thanks (because I cannot be consistent on the forum; it's up to you to make this thread take off).
Here's a video of the music from a film I really loved from the first moment - and the music is absolutely perfect.
Lawrence of Arabia (1962) ~ composer Maurice Jarre.
a selection of the music ...
and brief clip from the film ...
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Beautiful work and it adds dimensions to already two, very stunning films.
Scorsese films like GOODFELLAS do the same thing. Although he takes great songs, primarily from the 50s through to the late 70s and uses them, rather than an original score, to heighten dramatic irony.
"All I ever wanted to be was a gangster"-- Tony Bennett belting out Rags to Riches (my Fate is Up To You), which is what this film is all about (but it's more rags to riches, back to living the rest of a life "like a schnook"... )
Songs like Speedo-- which was the introduction to Jimmy "the Gent"-- made this kid's life so heart-pounding and exciting...
So many classics which have a pulse on where the story is at, all climaxing with a paranoid and stoned-out, coke-head, Henry Hill, rushing all around his neighbourhood in one day.... with songs from the Rolling Stones (Monkey Man), George Harrison (What is Life), and his downfall as a schnook (Sid Vicious singing My Way!!!!)... Scorsese knows how to use popular music to push his narrative...
And then there's the music for Raging Bull... sublime and beautiful...
Don't need the Godfather films and scores to put myself in that mood. I could eat pasta and bread and wash it down with red wine every day! If it was healthy…
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It's difficult not to mention John Barry even in a non-Bond movie score thread. One of my go-to scores I listen to regularly (and have been for years), is Barry's score for The Ipcress File. I never get tired of it; it's just brilliant.
Lalo Schifrin's Bullitt score is another one I find myself listening to regularly. It doesn't get cooler than these two scores, IMO!
A few years later, I was astonished to learn that film music could actually be bought on CD. I went from store to store, in ardent pursuit of Miklós Rózsa's delicious Ben-Hur score, but reality bit me like Winter frost as no such thing proved available at the time. My relentless hunting down of the score was forced to come to an empty end at last when it was made blatantly clear to me that I was looking for something that simply didn't exist. I couldn't believe it.
And then it happened, several years later. A two-disc release of Miklós Rózsa's score was announced and I cried tears of joy. Now an engineering student with access to the Internet, I made my first overseas purchase as it were. A few patient weeks later, it arrived, in a beautiful edition. Thus began the second life of my love for this music, a love that has, in fact, never stopped to grow. Even now, I am still very fond of the Ben-Hur score. I praise it with all my heart. It's quite simply splendid.
But it didn't stop there. Soon, I had tracked down the score for Gone With The Wind, Spartacus, Quo Vadis, Lawrence Of Arabia and even The Ten Commandments; I had bought almost all the famous Bernard Herrmann scores for Hitchcock movies (and others); I became the proud owner of several Hammer scores, of soundtrack albums to most of Kubrick's films, of old horror movie scores (including some particularly obscure ones) and more.
Yes, I love "older" film music. Many of those scores and soundtracks haven't lost one bit of their charm, their grandness, their odours and flavours so to speak. I well up inside when listening to the score of Casablanca and to the music of pretty much any Audrey Hepburn film--with a particular fondness for Mancini's music. Any time I watch an "older" movie and like its music, I will seek it out as a soundtrack, a full score or whatever is available. To quote my parents, I guess I was born "many decades too late."
Film music became a thing for me when I discovered the Bonds, Indiana Jones, Rambo and more. While my classmates were into rock and pop, I was playing the three J's: Barry, Williams and Goldsmith. It would soon turn into a proud obsession. As a teenager, I completely lost any reservations about professing my love for film music. People would ask, "What music are you into?" and I would answer, "film music." Then they would say, "Yeah, yeah, like Axel F and such." I would scoff at them--bloody amateurs. Axel F is not bad, of course; now let us talk about serious stuff, like Blade Runner, Batman, Jaws, ...
Film music is never not on my mind. And I go both deep and broad in my selection. From Japanimation scores to slasher movie scores, from the most classic pieces to the most modern "ambient" scores, from Bond to far beyond. Pretty much anything can play in my house, but I have two rules:
Why I love the Internet? Not for its easy access to topless pics of celebrities, but for its easy access to film scores. Film music is my music, it's what I listen to when I'm working, when I'm reading, when I'm driving my car or taking the train to work. I can grab some other stuff from time to time, but 99% of the time, I'm listening to film music. I couldn't name five Beatles songs, but I know who scored Halloween Resurrection or the 1943 Son Of Dracula.
Miraculously, nobody has mentioned Quentin yet ... ;) ha!
Or buy soundtrack because it was cheap and you never know.
Danny Elfman - Men in Black. In 2019 for € 1,00. Very out of print.
Graeme Revell - The Negotiator
Jerry Goldsmith - The Russia House. With Sean Connery. Bonus: New
John Williams - Rosewood. Directed by Steven Spielberg
Leaving Las Vegas.
Ennio Morricone - The Untouchables. BD is on my wishlist. Sean Connery.
Elia Cmiral - Ronin. 2 Disc Se dvd or new BD who include bonus disc atleast..
Danny Elfman - Edward Scissorhands. Bonus: Gift from work.
The Jungle Book. Original. Waiting on BD with sleeve.
Kristen Anderson-Lopez And Robert Lopez, Christophe Beck - Frozen. To exited mood i bought it and to late i discover there is also a 2 disc version. 3D release be on my wishlist and i expect going to be end fast in my collection.
Oliver & Company - Dutch release. I prefer Dutch dub. 80's dub. Stil waiting to get BD or a new release.
Hans Zimmer - The Prince Of Egypt. Waiting to spot last year released BD and for a good price.
James Horner - Jumanji. The 2017 BD steelbook. By mistake i not buy movie on but dvd but some stupid game on queensday in the past. I was exited because include a booklet, nice bonus now when i finaly wil have the movie.
Hans Zimmer Featuring Rodrigo Y Gabriela - Pirates Of The Caribbean On Stranger Tides. € 5,00 second hand. Release disapointed in bonus material. Waiting on new release, but if can get 3D steelbook i possible get it. Mabey even the 5th end earlier in my collection. But it is Disney, wil be another long wait... Ant Man was my last one and only 3D i collect til i bought 2016 Jungle book.
Speed 2. Not released in The Netherlands on BD, just waiting til i found English American or even German release. The Soundtrack is limited release and pay as i soundtrack have cost in the 90's. 23 € (Fl 40,60).
Angelo Badalamenti - A Very Long Engagement. 2 Disc SE with sleeve or new BD release who include bonus disc atleast. Bonus: Include sleeve.
Brad Fiedel - True Lies. Are Fox sleeping. No BD yet.
Randy Newman - Monsters, Inc. 3D release not include the bonus disc from earlier 3 disc edition and those days 3D now also missing the sleeve. Already have the sequel's 3 Disc 3D who is a prequel.
Alan Menken, David Zippel - Disney's Hercules. BD another disapointed release with lack in bonus material. Bonus: 2006 re-release with more tracks and new for € 2,50.
Burkhard Dallwitz - The Truman Show. Another from the already big BD list of titles you think where is it. Whyle BD include all extra's as CE and it is Jim Carry movie who was stil hot then.
Michael Kamen - The Three Musketeers. 1993 movie.
25 movies in total.
Thinking i whant collect the movie first can turn out more expensive or a disapointed those days. Possible skipping some very needed soundtracks in the past who are now very out of print.
In collection:
Xmen 2
Transformers 2
Night At The Museum 2
Speed. Dvd was expensive and Speed 2 soundtrack too.
Finding Nemo
The Incredibles
Spider-Man. Dvd was expensive.
Lord of Rings. All 3
Wreck-It Ralph. Bonus: Gift from work. Whyle BD lack in bonusmaterial i collect 3D release with sleeve for € 13,33. Over priced but i bought it together with 3 Disc 3D limited release of Brave and the first Hobbit movie in 3D for € 40,00. All new. So far i pay € 49,99 in total with the soundtrack of Brave ( € 9,99) who collect later.
A Bug's Life.
Jurassic Park 1 & 3
Despicable Me 2
The Lion King (1994)
Aladdin (1992)
Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs
Pocahontas
Lady and The Tramp
Sleeping Beauty
Tarzan (1999)
Tarzan (1999)- Dutch dub.
Treasure Planet
Epic. Bonus: New for € 5,00. € 17,50 in total with 3 Disc 3D with sleeve of the movie who i bought earlier for € 12,50. Close to max of 13,00 i whant to pay. Money i saved made that i was easier to buy Rio 2 (€ 13,66 coupon price. But for my feeling i pay € 10,00) who no longer include dvd.
Spirit: Stallion Of The Cimarron
TRON: Legacy
Shrek.
Hulk (2004)
Mission Impossible 1 & 2. Dvd of second movie is moost expensive i pay from my collection for single disc. € 31,50 (fl 69,99) My moost expensive BD you can have bought twice and stil get € 1,50 left. A bit les of 1/3 i pay for Macgyver collection and more then 50% for what pay for first two seasons of The Saint. Of course mi2 was my second dvd after Twine (€ 27,50/ fl 59,99).
Not:
X-men
Transformers
Night At The Museum
Spider-Man 2 (&3)
The Hobbit. All 3.
Wreck-It Ralph 2
Jurassic Park 2
Rio 1&2
Despicable Me. Not exist.
The Incredible Hulk (2008)
Mission Impossible 3 & 4 (5&6)
Ant-Man
Iron Man
Cath me If You Can. 2 Disc Se dvd was already very dificult to get.
In total something around 156-160 include from some of them i only single with title song and with some of them both. Artist soundtrack of 2-3 who overall not fan from and only have because it include score, alternate or/and soundtrack title song of the movie (Mi2, Godzilla 1998) or part of dvd of Shrek.
Isolated scores:
Tomorrow Never Dies. SE dvd. Thanky David Arnold.
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves (1991). BD. Also collect cd and 4 track single.
Oblivion. 2 disc set with BD include bonus cd with 5 tracks.
Fallout. 2 Disc BD.
But i prefer actualy discs.Stil i am very happy what Tom Cruise possible ask Universal doing this.
I also own limited dvd who only be avaible with statue limited edition of return of the king with composer doing audio/video commentary in between whyle you see them playing / recording the music in concert style.
I like Morricone’s sparse orchestral part 1, but John Carpenter and his simple synths add something special to part 2
Superman the Movie
JAWS
Raiders of the Lost Ark
First Blood
Tron Legacy
Ben Hur
Once Upon a Time in the West
The Good the Bad and the Ugly
Star Trek the Motion Picture
Wrath of Khan I have all the scores to Star Trek movies
The Search for Spock
Alien
Aliens
Enter the Dragon
Bullitt
Mission Impossible III though I own all the scores, the second film is average.
Blade Runner
The Rocketeer
The Empire Strikes Back
Batman '89'
Dances with Wolves
Rocky I own all the scores, though 5 is not great.
Creed
Stargate
Total Recall
The Terminator
Predator
Conan the Barbarian
The Matrix Reloaded I own all the scores.
The Fellowship of the Ring I own all the scores.
Kill Bill 1 and 2
The Four Musketeers
Capricorn One...
Escape from the Planet of the Apes...
I love this theme
Lifeforce...
Who Dares Wins...
Ecstasy Of Gold from The Good, The Bad & The Ugly
Ennio in concert version
@GadgetMan Indeed – Barry really shines with this one. "Alone In Three Quarter Time" is one of my favourites too. As you write, it's so very stylish; it fits the style and tone of the film really well, but could also easily have been worked into something that would fit a Bond film. I also really like how "A Man Alone" works as a recurring theme (in different renditions) throughout the film. It gives the film character (in lack of a better word) – to me at least.
I think 1982 was the year my love of film music really took off. There were so many great scores that year and a lot of them remain firm favourites to this day;
Conan The Barbarian (Bazil Poleduris)
Blade Runner (Vangelis)
Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan (James Horner)
E.T (John Williams)
First Blood (Jerry Goldsmith)
Tron (Wendy Carlos)
Mad Max 2 (Brian May)
The Thing (Ennio Morricone)
That same year my boss at work kindly gave me a Western themes collection of original music that i absolutely loved.
These days i'm not so prolific in my soundtrack collecting, but i have loved some of Hans Zimmer's work (Especially his Nolan scores) and think he is one of the best and versatile composers around.
It does indeed....true, the score sounds like something that would have worked in a Bond film. Probably the Connery era. Maybe in DN, TB or DAF.
You definitely hear that Ipcress is very much a score of the "jazzy Barry" era, with tracks and cues that aren't too far away from the early Bond's – while being its own thing of course. To me, there are elements of that score that makes me think of GF, TB (released the same year as The Ipcress File) and DAF. He made some fantastic, standout music in that period!
Yeah, 'a Jazzy Spy Score'....which indeed was the early Barry style. before we later saw his evolution to fit in with the 90s in scores like 'The Specialist' & 'Mercury Rising'. Really like these scores as well.
The evolution of Barry's scores sure is interesting. He knew how to keep his music current, IMO – which is why he was so important for the Bond series.
Yeah, he really was.
Creating The Lord Of The Rings Symphony - A Composer's Journey Through Middle-earth that i credit before.
From The Movies: CD in Metal round case. The CD include original themes and also songs from movies done by other singers. Include For Your Eyes Only by Dutch singer Anita Meyer. Original Ennio Morricone Once Upon A Time In The West. Or this fames one:
Shrek 3 Disc limited edition digipack with artist soundtrack.
5 Disc Limited Edition of POTC 1-3 include bonus disc and dvd all in small digipack in blackbox.
La La Land 4 Disc limited edition BD set with artist soundtrack of the movie.
I would then throw in Morricone’s TGTBATU and Barry’s YOLT to round out my personal top 3!!
And a big yes from me regarding the music in The Last Of The Mohicans, @GadgetMan
Hell yes. I love it. The whole sequence in the end, when the woman is taken away, they follow her, one fuy is killed and then the younger sister follows him to death by jumping down...combined with the score...EPIC. The scene alone would be good but only with tgis score music it is totally emotional andund unforgettable.
Yesssss!...an Impeccable score it is.
Sure....Very Soulful Score. Has a Celtic style about it as well.
Indeed criminal for myself to forget, his unused score from Torn Curtain...
And North by Northwest one of his very best...