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IDK, Silva was charismatic, but SF is the only film where I like Craig's Bond without reservation, haircut notwithstanding (I agree it could have been longer, but SF is where I find him most believable as a man of the world). His forte in all his Bond films is the balance between brutish swagger and vulnerable humanity, and SF showed it off to maximum advantage, letting us see just enough of Bond's human side without becoming too bleak or overdosing on melodrama. It helped that for all its plot weaknesses, SF was consistently fast-paced, full of twists, and provided great introductions for Fiennes and Naomie Harris, both of whom I love in their respective roles. And despite ending with M's death, IMO it had a kind of hopeful vibe.
We may disagree on the details of post-CR trajectory (I think SF was a huge improvement on QOS and probably an improvement on CR itself), but I am all for bringing back the fun and for standalone adventures =D>
Hear hear!
I don't recall anyone calling DAD a great Bond movie. It's in my bottom 5. However, I'd take its OTT goofiness over the heavy-handed, pretentious soap opera banalities of the last 3 Craig movies any day.
I've seen it three times now. I enjoyed the first (except the shock of the ending), second time I could sit back and take it in more (great watch but I had minor gripes) on my last viewing I just felt empty. The shock of watching Bond die had well and truly worn off and I just sat there empty and indifferent. Something felt wrong knowing I was watching Bond's final mission
I'm really glad for everyone who loved NTTD, I want to love it more and get on board. It was great to see Daniel back at his best in NTTD
Eh. The Craig era showed Bond's first mission, why not also include his last mission. I think it could be really upsetting if I was one of the people who bent over backwards trying to tie all the Bond films together in one timeline (not saying you'd do this), but for me, it really is just one of many Bond stories. He dies in this one, he probably won't in the next one, it goes on. I take no less enjoyment out of the films / novels, and I will be no less excited for the next Bond film.
Starting with You Only Live Twice (apart from a few exceptions), Bond, in the films, was basically a superhero or a demigod. He would kill the bad guy by himself, and he would get the girl. He would always win. The only suspense was about the one-liners he would say at key moments or how the gadgets provided by Q would save his life at some point in the story in an unexpected way. Everything else about his personality was on rail, on autopilot, especially after the writers had managed to come up with some kind of recipe for the current actor after a couple of entries.
In NTTD, the DB5 can be abandoned for good (but, of course, Bond still has a spare vintage car), Felix can die, Blofeld can die almost casually in the middle of the story, and Bond himself can die. But the films also have a stronger and much more interesting take on the lead character than everything that had been released during three decades, James Bond is much less predictable, and the potential is now huge.
Of course, they'll screw it up at some point, we'll get some subpar script by Purvis & Wade or somebody else, there will be questionable decisions, and not everything will be rightly exploited.
But keep in mind how you'll feel when Bond 26 will be released. You won't think about whether the new guy has what it takes to come after Daniel Craig (even if the shoes to fill will still be huge), you'll think foremost that Bond is back, that his adventures start again, and you'll want to see how the new guy evolves.
Timothy, y Cymro cryf a dewr yn The Living Daylights!
Also, I don't think Dalton's Bond slept with Lupe Lamora, only Bouvier in Licence To Kill.
Did Barbara Broccoli go back in time and make Connery woke??
It's kind of like how Endgame has a heavy set of references to Thor: The Dark World, which I think is the consensus pick for "worst MCU film." You love to see it :))
Yes, Madeleine's much more of a modern woman. And this comes from someone who reveres the Tracy character.
In SP I find Madeleine's feisty/angry scenes to be her best (not unlike Tracy)--particularly after the snow chase. And then she's great/vulnerable in L'Americain.
If they had given her more feistiness/defiance at the Morocco base, either in the meteorite scene or when Bond is being tortured, her character would have made more of an impression in that film.
Madeleine just seems so passive/along for the ride throughout this section (compare, say, Honey), and of course, she gets kidnapped--yawn.
It's like the writers forgot about her character at this point. If they had kept better track of her, when she leaves Bond before the climax, it would have had more impact.[/quote]
I have expressed my view about the arc of Madeleine/Bond. However I have always had the view that Spectre has an overarching problem from the moment they arrive at the Meteorite Base and Daniel and Lea get caught up in that.
Lea gave an interview in French in mid 18 where she said the atmosphere was very different on set this time and has twice mentioned the change of director without being denigrating. At a modular level what goes on between them as actors is great but the plotting and direction of their development from that point on lacks real force and momentum its because that final third of the film does not have the relentless focus of the ending of the other four and especially this one. We come back to London again its vaguely camp in parts and its homage making and bringing the family in is distracting. all of that takes away from Madeleine/Bond and her jeopardy should have been played out much better.
If I strung everything together that Chris, Lea and Daniel have said all three were unhappy with what happened in that last third and Cary who brought Chris and Lea back and Daniel wanted them back gave them a chance to put that right. Chris nails Blofeld psychopathic jealousy of Bond in NTTD. here is this supplicant having the love and admiration of his partners daughter and he ruins there chances that is riddled with power for me and Chris gets to communicate that.
=D>
Craig's look in SF is probably the worst of any actor to play Bond.
This is how I feel about the "who could/should play Bond" thread. You can come back a year later and they're still talking about the same people.
This echoes my thoughts exactly. The promise showed in CR disappeared rapidly, because the producers and Craig were misguided by what they thought was the right direction.
CR led the way because it showed Bond getting bloodied and battered. He could bleed. It showed gritty action, it had an energetic rock soundtrack, the music sounded like John Barry, and it also relied heavily on Fleming's work.
Instead, they focused on personal angst, Vesper dying. This is what they thought made CR successful and forced a new path away from Fleming, and down a BS family and personal tragedy route instead, giving us Fleming re-imagined, which had very little to do with the books, and more indulging Babs and Craig's fantasy - which resulted in the ultimate mess that was NTTD. Dreary songs, depressing storylines, everything suddenly became personal to Bond (even `Bro-feld'). We had to kill Mathis to make Bond suffer, then M, then Felix, then tease Bond that he now has a family, only to take it away from him at the last second, just to make him suffer that little bit more...before blowing him up!
Utter garbage! >:P
Correction mate. We had great movies in the 60's, then 2 decent films in the 80's (Dalton's) and then CR, which came after 2002.
So not sure what you think tickles my fancy.
Yet I wasn't upset when CR was released (if anything I was ecstatic). And I got some enjoyment out of SF too.
But according to you I don't like any Bond film after 2002, but I like every Bond film before then - which I clearly don't either. The 4 Brosnan films are at the bottom of my list.
And you say you have me figured out?
The entire forum: same as it ever was (I feel a song coming on ... ) ;)
Great song at that. B-)
Good shout. I also think mid 90's when Oasis were at their peak, they could have done a great Bond song, in the LALD mould.