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Well, Pussy Galore is lesbian. At least that is, what the film insinuates on. So Bond does not only take her by (slight) force (and it is rapey), so it's suggested, that Bond "cures" Pussy from her homosexuality and turning her heterosexual. Homosexuality was officially illegal these days, and there were ideas, how one could be convinced, that homosexuality is wrong. Today Fleming would get a shitstorm of epic dimensions. And in TB, he forces Nurse Pat to have sex, kind of blackmailing her he would report the incident on the stretcher. Yes, it was the 1960's, and probably at least the male majority would not see anything wrong in this. But that doesn't mean, it was and still is alright, which it isn't. When Moore took over, Bond would not force himself on them. Whether it is realistic, that women would be all ready, to have sex with Bond.
I think there are still shades of this in Craig films, I love the way he behave with the women in both the home in Jamaica, and in Cuba.
As for strong females, there are in the series from the get go, remember, Bond steal is famous line from Trench, Sylvia Trench. Let's not even go into Fiona Volpe, fantastic and more than made up for his boyish behavior.
NOT to be popular, but to be subversive. I've said this plainly many times: Hollywood is obsessed with destroying popular male action heroes and NTTD clearly and obviously followed this trend, based on quotes from the filmmakers themselves. I don't see how anyone can deny that.
I didn't say nobody likes it. It currently has a 6.5 average user score on Metacritic, which is definitely mixed. As for EON, there's no way they didn't know that the ending would piss people off.
"James Bond will return"
I think it's been a tradition since '62, right? Certainly since FRWL, as I recall.
But EON must have been in a bit of a quandary here. (1) Put it in and confuse some casuals or naive viewers or (2) leave it out and signal to some diehards & others that maybe the character really is not returning.
It's a no-win situation for what was, in my view, the right dramatic move (his death) in the context of the entire movie. But given the iconoclastic nature of the Craig years I'm kind of surprised that they didn't opt to leave it out ....
I agree with this but I think we can assume bond no longer blackmailing a woman into forcibly having sex with him is more than just societal conditioning, and in actuality is progress.
Naturally. I’m not holding anyone to modern standards. I thought that much would be obvious.
My wife and I have a young son. We love him very much. My wife says she will not work for as long as possible while raising our son. Actually I’m working from home indefinitely so we’re both at home raising our son. So we have no worries about who has access to our child and instilling who knows what crazy progressive values in him.
Our son is a beautiful boy and he will not be told that he is one of 60 other genders out there. There are only 2 genders - male and female. Always has been, always will be. Despite what the woke media and professors try to convince us. If someone wants to be something other than male or female I suggest seeking psychiatric help.
I love my wife and respect her very much and she likes it when I take charge and make the important decisions in our family. She says that’s how it should be. A man should be a man. I know this might ruffle some feathers but there you go - a woman’s perspective on these things. Granted she’s not a woke woman which is a blessing of course !
Horses for courses.
You can NEVER think that about Connery (even though he was wearing a terry towelling onesie at the time!) <:-P
Onesies is apparently a very British thing. Many have them there.
Even me, purchased from Orlebar Brown..... *runs and hides*
Well, there you go.
But I've yet to wear it and say `man talk' while slapping a backside. Doing that to my wife, I'd get a slap right back.
I did that once at work. Not wearing a one-piece, mind you. It went all right.
:))
He did go after her in a rage, not knowing her motivations. It must have been on his conscience. His involvement also indirectly lead to her death.
M said that Vesper knew she was going to her death. So, Mr. White's guys were going to be killing her anyway, regardless if Bond intervened. Bond killed them before they could kill her, so she killed herself, and he nearly drowned trying to save her. There's no reason for him to hate himself for that.
You know how the human heart is. We tend to think about what we could have done differently.
https://bestselfmedia.com/burning-letters-letting-go/
First, the relevance of this post in respect of NTTD eludes me completely.
Second, the binary-gender-debate can be controversial; I see no reason why we should have it here.
Third, I am glad my wife and I talk about things and make decisions together. But maybe I respect her too much... ? Or maybe I am just being crazy progressive.
That, too.
I do kinda think they both want to do it but it's not a great scene to have written and it wasn't performed brilliantly. I don't see it as being as awful as people think.
And that's not me defending Bond no matter what or thinking what people accuse the scene of being would be okay. I find the forced kiss earlier appalling, and clearly sexual assault.
Daniel Craig as James Bond is dead. Sorry! Not all the James Bond, or the “character” James Bond. We still need your money!
James Bond Will Return
While I still don't like the decision today, I do think this decision was thought long and hard over and was not rash, unlike what some commentary on here has implied. Was it done for easy shock value? I don't think so, or at least not entirely. I feel they thought it to be the tool which allowed them to explore other ideas, such as Bond having a daughter, falling in love again/moving on from his past, and interacting with his successor. Bond dying provides a convenient method to put a resolution to these concepts and allows them to start fresh with Bond #7. Plus they started by rebooting the series, so why not end with it?
That said, I would've much more preferred an ending which was either a 'happy ever after' ending or left his death implied and not made so definite. They could have very easily gone this route, but then it wouldn't have had the same impact, would it?
Ultimately, I think they felt like if they were to ever explore a Bond death, this was the time to do so. So they went with it and tried to make the most of it.
Wow, some of you are angry beyond all reason. A stress pill might work. This thread is beginning to look more like group therapy for first-wolders who cannot cope with the death of a fictional character, rather than a forum where fans discuss Bond in a mature way.