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I make a comment about that earlier; poetic that not only it's British missiles, but an MI6-made weapon (Heracles) that ultimately has Bond decide to cash in his chips.
Fiennes M: "You have permission to fire..."
I know shifting leadership can be tough on an employee, but... yikes.
Great point. The proximate cause here is certainly extremely unclear.
The writers-? *ducks* ;)
:))
For me, I'd put it down to M's bad judgment - it was his creation of Heracles, despite objections, that kickstarts the plot. I don't have an issue with that, I think it's wonderfully complex and the fact that the decision ultimately lands on Bond's shoulders is strangely poetic, as others have noted. But my reading of the scenario is that it wasn't Safin's bullets that provided the mortal blow that led to Bond's demise. Sure, they certainly didn't help, but it's the nanabots in his system that truly compelled Bond to sacrifice himself.
Fiennes was superb, by the way. I don't think even someone like Dench could have played the stubborn, borderline arrogant facade that hid guilt and insecurity the way Fiennes did. And it's even more interesting that Mallory ended up being this way, considering he was introduced as the man behind accountability.
As Madeleine says in SP, we always have a choice.
Yes. And my choice is to never watch this (NTTD) finely produced & fetidly written mess of a movie ever again.
Touché. Ha.
So why announce it? Just Do It!
And that was relevant to the ongoing discussion...how, exactly?
I'm actually getting sick of this. The NTTD haters keep screaming about how much the movie sucks, derailing others' conversations and enjoyment for no discernible reason, and then proceed to claim they're the ones being "attacked" when their pettiness is met with frustration.
Like the movie or don't, I'm indifferent to that; behaving like this is something I find infuriating.
Absolutely agree @StirredNotShaken … Debate the film. Argue points. But this is getting seriously childish at this point. Like it? Hate it? But the troll bombing is becoming silly…
Please kindly show me where you and another SPECTRE fan (or really any two or more SPECTRE fans) were having a productive conversation about an element of the film, and I came barging in with a non-sequitur about how "fetid" SPECTRE is.
I also think it's patently ridiculous to outright admit to a large group of this forum's users that you're making fun of them, only to immediately follow that up with the words "enhance your calm."
I had a chat today with a most Telly Savalas-looking member of this forum… and he mentioned this film, NTTD, as being the most divisive of the Bond films… Of course it is: Bond died!!!
And this affects the hardcore Bond fandom more than the general audience. In a few years time they’ll be wondering if the last Bond film was No Time To Thunder-Day.
But for the more passionate Bond fan, by and large, we are here on this site. And I suppose a heavy majority of us can accept dissenting views. Most of these people can hear the others out and respect while disagreeing.
And then there are the trolls… who seem to escape via thinly veiled humour?
I say enhance your calm because it's all opinions here. We are not discussing real world issues. Barging in is an internet thing. If NTTD isn't 'fetid' then what are you reacting to? It's all in fun here.
I'll buy it and shut it off when he's making Mathilde breakfast.
I believe on another thread you admitted you had continued and rising anger about NTTD.
Perhaps instead of projecting onto a bunch of strangers, it’s you who should chill about a movie? You don’t like it. Fine. No biggie! In a few years a new bond film will come along…
I think I'm only making this comment because I'm trying, myself, not to get too reactive towards the opinions of others.
We're all James Bond fans, we're all family at the end of the day.
@Last_Rat_Standing, if you turn the film off when Bond makes Mathilde breakfast, power to you, I get it. It's not something that's ever been in a Bond story before, so it's easy to understand why you don't feel it belongs. For me, it's Bond cutting an apple for a child who said she's hungry, and that's Bond enough for me. I think it's worthwhile trying to embrace the opinions of others; the community is richer for it.
It means smelling really unpleasant. I've seen a rock musician pull out a garbage bag with a dead cat inside on stage, open it up, and inhale deeply. He got off on it, it smelled terrible but it gave him a high. Others seem to get that same high by inhaling what they consider to be the acrid, or 'fetid' scent of NTTD, only they feel the need to share that experience here, ad infinitum, much to the chagrin of others.
My point is not him making breakfast for her. It's just a much happier ending than the actual end, which is what I was hoping for as the 3rd act progressed.