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DAD also got a fair amount of negative reviews at the time though, so I don’t think that’s a fair comparison. NTTD doesn’t seem to be anywhere near as divisive amongst critics and audiences at large. It’s just divisive amongst nerds like us on the internet.
You all see NTTD and think he's dead but he survives to die another day. Pardon the Bond film pun.
It's easy to prove Bond is not dead. The title proves it. No Time To Die.
The title is telling you Bond survived.
I don't have any valuable rare Bond merchandise to wager. Had I a rare Bond item I would bet James Page that James Bond - Daniel Craig's Bond - will be alive and (relatively) well at the start of Bond 26 or certainly mid-way through the storyline.
I'm 99 percent certain Eon have done this death to fool the worldwide audience and appease Craig's desire never to return to the role. What everyone forgets is the incredible marketing potential of Bond assumed dead! It's a 'once in a franchise lifetime' opportunity to do the storyline and the hype and expectation can reach an unprecedented level.
New Bond actor.
Amazon co-producing film.
Bond presumed dead.
Bond actually alive.
Teaser posters hyping up the 'is he or isn't he dead?' premise.
Bond recovers from his near death experience and loses memory. He works as a freelance assassin and hired by the new villain. Bond is now a villain so you get a classic plot twist.
M discovers Bond is alive...
and sends 009 and 010 on an extraction mission. Capture Bond! Send him back to London. His hasn't paid his last income tax return!
😊
So er.... anyway Bond is working for the bad guy. The bad guy wants to topple some government, maybe the European Union of Bond's world. I dunno, some made-up organization. The villain has prototype Artificial Intelligence robots. Bond is hired to work out how to topple the organization. The 00s have to stop Bond and the villain from destroying this organization and seizing its assets and weapons arsenal. And the film has a subplot with Bond having a relationship with a female member of the villain's group. How will Bond react when he remembers he's a 00 agent and he's in love or lust with a woman working for the bad guys? So you get an emotional subplot. A conflict of interest.
The film uses CGI to create the robots on screen. Bond 26 is semi sci-fi in tone. Robots are the natural progression from nanobots. The robots will be designed to look nothing like Terminator cyborgs so you avoid any comparison.
The whole nanobots subplot can be resolved with Bond having a temporary antidote and at the end of the film he gets a full vaccine.
The Madeleine and Mathilde subplot is easily resolved. Following Bond's "death" in No Time To Die Madeleine and Mathilde have been given new identifies and live in an undisclosed location. At the end of the film Bond says he never wants to see them again because he'll only bring pain into their lives. "They deserve a life without me."
So you resolve his family subplot. Madeleine and Mathilde are never mentioned again.
I believe Bond back from dead is doable. You show Bond a few feet away from the blast zone. The missile strike was near him, not on him.
That's how he survives.
You show the flashback from a different angle and we see Bond wasn't hit by the explosion. He was injured but managed to avoid death. Bond is found by some fishermen and they help him recover.
It's 100 percent a possible storyline if Eon have faith in keeping Bond alive.
Ideally the title would be called Envy of the Dead because Moneypenny visits Tracy's grave (Bond has no grave as no body found) and she says she envies the dead because they longer have to bear the feelings of grief and sadness.
I accept another title with death/die is milking it 😉 however Envy of the Dead would be appropriate and sounds like an Ian Fleming title. The title sets the tone for the film.
I could write a short treatment of the storyline and submit it to Eon as an unsolicited submission. They might like the ideas contained within the treatment. They'll never ask me to send it so I can just email it to them. I don't mind. They can recycle it if they want.
At the end of the day I don't want to see James Bond dead. Bond should live on. It's not for Daniel Craig to decide. I don't care if his Bond is or isn't part of official canon. Bond should not die and then a few years later... it's a new alternative reality Bond. It's silly.
There's only one cinematic James Bond.
Should be me that apologises mate. I was a bit snippy with you so I'm sorry for that.
It's totally normal, that people who don't like something or have a problem with something will speak out about it more than people who are satisfied with a movie. That always has been the case online for ages.
I love the fact Bond is brutal and ruthless in NTTD
Can’t help but think a better use of your time would be to accept that Craig’s bond is dead and any future iteration is either non Craig universe type storytelling or a restart.
I hope they don’t do the whole origin again as we can’t top Casino IMo. I also don’t think you can restart with golden gun - going to assassinate M. It’s not a positive enough introduction to a new actor.
Who knows. We’ll find out in about 5 years time 😂
Second only to Lazenby in punch ferocity/velocity imho.
More vicious than even Connery in brawls.
No silly Brosnan/Moore wincing. No Dalton over-emoting.
Drawback to that asset is the deficit: Craig's 007 never had a ski or scuba scene and yes, those things are fairly vital Bond tropes imho.
Highlights were Cuba and Bond actually talking like a real person. (Skyfall and Spectre I feel like he was weirdly quiet)
Lowlights were just about everything else. Family themes, Bond has a daughter, Bond dies are all out of place in what I come to these movies for.
Is there any precedence for Bond having a kid in the books? I remember him "dying" and having amnesia as a Japanese fisherman, but nothing about a kid.
Bond gets Kissy pregnant in YOLT.
Well OHMSS has Bond ask Tracey to marry him....the night after he has had sex with two women!
I have seen the film twice in the cinema now, and my experience has been similar.
This makes sense to me as the reason that Bond stopped trying but I don’t think the film made it perfectly clear, at least not to me, my wife or my son.
Even though it gives lots of reason to the final events, I still wish it hadn’t happened.
Good to hear. I'm going to see it again immediately and hope to see the same audience reaction. Honestly, left the cinema with a feeling and an experience I'll never forget.
Safin's garden provides the poisons that makes nanobots deadly. This way he's able to provide every aspect of the production of the weapon.
The internet is full of ourageous comments that get thousands of likes. Nothing unusual about that. That's the environment. And every Bond film made has had vocal detractors.
Why would Madeleine and Mathilde need new identities, Madeleine herself says to Bond there's nobody left to harm them. Who would they need hide from?
Eh? Would this be the Naomie Harris Moneypenny visiting a grave for a Tracy whom the Craig Bond never met or a recast Moneypenny visiting the grave of the Tracy belonging to the 1962-1989 era Bond? Either way it's fan service which would confuse the general audience.
Bond26 is likely going to be a reboot. I'm a huge fan of Craig's Bond but after 15 years of one interpretation of Bond I look forward to a fresh start personally. Hopefully by fresh that'll mean a change from Purvis and Wade once and for all.
I find that arrogant. Many are actually arguing their case and have great points. You (and I) may disagree but simply slapping a "ourageous"-label on and calling people with another opinion for detractors?
No, you misunderstood my point. I am not saying the comments criticizing NTTD are necessarily outrageous. I am only saying that giving validation to a comment on the internet because it gets many likes is pretty pointless.
Yes, if the comment is about politics, sex or religion, but over the years I have found that the "most helpful" user comments on IMDB are usually either spot on or just a good read, where I simply disagree. The same with their rating system.
I burst out laughing at the end as everyone at my IMAX was speechless that Bond was blown to bits. Not a single applause.
The most useful meter for whether the general audience likes a film or not are Box Office numbers. Those have been generally high through out the Craig era, NTTD included. Yet people have argued that no, the tone of the Craig movies is not what people want only because they don't like it themselves. It's tiresome and frankly quite ridiculous.