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  • IGotABrudderIGotABrudder UK
    Posts: 631
    I work in UK local government. We’ve all been told to expect redeployment to support essential teams, leaving our current teams. The first essential team under pressure is Registration, who are gearing up for Italy-style (perhaps even Iran-style) death numbers. They are the people who legally have to register deaths. In the UK death registration has to be done within a certain time limit and has to be done face-to-face too with a Registration officer, remote registration is unlawful. The government may waive that law if deaths rise. Registration were the only team in the whole authority who actually had a pandemic plan, now they’re implementing it. Coroners team are likewise gearing up. Social Care must have some sort of battle plan I suppose too but they are culturally very different from the rest of us (they work more closely with NHS than with us anyway) and I don’t know what it might be. Personally I am expecting to be redeployed to Registration as I work in the same building, so I could register deaths. On the other hand I am a budget holder, so they might leave me where I am. Moving budget holders (especially at the end of the U.K. financial year, when accounts need to be closed off, only 2 weeks away) might cause more problems than it solves. We shall see. I have seen Registration staff in tears at meetings, planning for what is likely to be coming down the slipway towards them.
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    jetsetwilly wrote: »
    I'm amazed the moderators are allowing him to remain on this forum without even a warning, never mind a ban.

    For the umptieth time: how would you know whether we warn someone or not? We never broadcast such a decision. Don't make angry assumptions without more information, please.

    Ok fair enough. I apologise.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,723
    Spain has registered 394 deaths from coronavirus today.
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic

    Scary when you see the comparison. The final death total for that flu back then was 14,286.

    CV is currently at 13,598 and counting rapidly each day. We're months away from this even peaking. Who knows what the final figure will be.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,169
    As of 12pm Monday all pubs, clubs, restaurants, cafes, churches, cinemas and casinos across Australia will be closed.
    As of Tuesday all internal boards will be closed to all but essential travel.
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    Benny wrote: »
    As of 12pm Monday all pubs, clubs, restaurants, cafes, churches, cinemas and casinos across Australia will be closed.
    As of Tuesday all internal boards will be closed to all but essential travel.

    It was only a matter of time. We (UK) went into social lockdown last Friday.

    I think by the end of next week we will be in a more severe, controlled lockdown, similar to what we are seeing in other parts of Europe.
  • GerardGerard
    Posts: 6,022
    A french ER doctor, Jean-Jacques Razafindranazy, has died from Coronavirus, aged 68 :

    https://actu.orange.fr/france/coronavirus-deces-d-un-medecin-hospitalier-dans-l-oise-magic-CNT000001oKTnt.html

    Let's hope he'll be the only one.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    Sadly in Italy 18 doctors died since the start of the pandemic...
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited March 2020 Posts: 15,723
    Italy has recorded 651 deaths today. They are now the first country to reach 5,000 total deaths (5,476). Italy has recorded more deaths in the last 6 days (March 17th to March 22nd) than China has recorded in total from November 2019 to March 2020 (4 months).
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,584
    jetsetwilly wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    There is no coronavirus crisis. I can prove it. Here:

    https://www.fox8live.com/2020/03/20/us-flu-activity-up-death-toll-reaches-k/

    More people have died from the flu in America alone than all the cr victims worldwide. 2020 season - 23,000 dead in America. And where pray tell is the lockdown over flu, where is the rolling 24/7 coverage, where is the mass panic buying, where is the social distancing, where is the hospitals overwhelmed, where is the shops closed, where is the financial bailout, where is the bailout for people going to lose their jobs from huge flu deaths?

    Oh yeah, it's non-existent. Why? Because people that own the media/news corps and main news sites online decided flu is not sexy. Coronavirus is more sexy so let's hype that up and get the world hysterical.

    I for one have had enough of this sickening hypocrisy. Yes, coronavirus is a horrible thing to die of, but so is flu. And no-one even cared about flu death rates, like ever. And that has a vaccine. So perhaps we should all stop this hysteria about coronavirus. People get old and get flu, get cancer, get cr. Some people don't even get the chance of life. They're aborted in the womb. So let's cut this cr hysteria. I'm sick of it. Sorry to rant but the hypocrisy of cr is staggering and I'm genuinely sick of it. If you gonna weep for dead Italians then maybe weep for the 23,000 dead flu victims in the US and elsewhere in the world. They're just as deserving.

    Hahahahahaha... I’d like to punch you right now. 15 days of quarantine and counting... COVID killing more people in one day that the seasonal flu in a month and that’s your take on the situation? Wow... just wow... I have no words. This is not just offensive... it’s unbelievably out of the world. You will learn in a couple of weeks... even earlier most likely. Anyway the only thing u proved here is that there’s no limit to something I cannot say because I don’t want to get banned.

    I'm amazed the moderators are allowing him to remain on this forum without even a warning, never mind a ban.

    I'd like to think this person is just trolling everyone to be a WUM. Bad taste I know, considering the environment we are in now, but if he is not trolling, and actually being serious, then maybe he is suffering from a mental illness. We shouldn't really judge him, because we don't know what is going on in his life right now.

    Warnings are not necessarily made public and we do deal with members who step out of line. Rest assured appropriate action will be taken.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    edited March 2020 Posts: 9,084
    Just as a suggestion, perhaps posters who strongly disagree with a certain person's view should not necessarily quote that person's posting in its entirety when replying. That only perpetuates and repeats the offensive stuff. Just as I don't find it too helpful when everybody copies and pastes links to videos etc. in a discussion when responding, leading to the same image shown umpteen times in the same thread.
  • RevelatorRevelator
    Posts: 2,921
    Now is a good time to reread The Decameron...
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited March 2020 Posts: 7,593
    Looks like Olga has recovered, some positive news :)

  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    Posts: 5,480
    I'm on hold with Telehealth in Ontario and as my hold music was "You Only Live Twice". Is this a good or bad thing? LOL.
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,710
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    Looks like Olga has recovered, some positive news :)


    Yes! Good news. Well done, Olga.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
    Posts: 2,865
    Good points @matt_u and @j_w_pepper. I think the concern is not that young people are dying from coronavirus, it’s that many are getting sick enough to require hospitalization before they recover. And that puts a strain on medical facilities. Again, this could be something that is unique to the US, but it bears watching. And as you stated, the overwhelming number of actual deaths is still being experienced by those 65 and up.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/fauci-u-looking-very-closely-161900234.html

    “Top U.S. health officials are "looking very closely" at reports that a much higher percentage of younger Americans than expected need hospitalization as a result of contracting the coronavirus, Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said Sunday.”
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited March 2020 Posts: 15,723
    Canada becomes the first country to confirm they will not go to the Tokyo Olympics as Japan acknowledges a delay is now inevitable.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,589
    For the first time since this thing started, I am becoming greatly concerned.
  • TracyTracy
    Posts: 1,713
    Walken will never get a virus , he uses type writer :D

    "Thats rather neat , dont you think ?"
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    TripAces wrote: »
    For the first time since this thing started, I am becoming greatly concerned.

    I didn't take it that seriously myself up until just over a week ago. I thought we were all overreacting, and it was just another strain of flu.

    It didn't really hit me until I watched that Sky News report in the Italy hospitals. This is not flu. The doctors treating it are describing it as chronic pneumonia.

    When you see people my age under ventilators in beds, and you realise this is not just the elderly getting hit by this, and how quickly this is spreading, and how hospitals are not coping is when I became genuinely frightened.

    The UK is ahead of Italy and China in its trajectory, and yet we are still not under a lockdown yet. People are still going out and mingling, as though they are on holiday.

    A bomb is about to be dropped on us, and it is already too late, even if we go into lockdown now. This time next week I dread to think where the UK will be.
  • GerardGerard
    Posts: 6,022
    Tracy wrote: »
    L.A sewers clogged with tshirts , lack of tp

    Why can't they use a shower handle ? Or the good old newspaper ?
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,584
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Just as a suggestion, perhaps posters who strongly disagree with a certain person's view should not necessarily quote that person's posting in its entirety when replying. That only perpetuates and repeats the offensive stuff. Just as I don't find it too helpful when everybody copies and pastes links to videos etc. in a discussion when responding, leading to the same image shown umpteen times in the same thread.

    Absolutely. Couldn't agree more.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,723
    Gerard wrote: »
    A french ER doctor, Jean-Jacques Razafindranazy, has died from Coronavirus, aged 68 :

    https://actu.orange.fr/france/coronavirus-deces-d-un-medecin-hospitalier-dans-l-oise-magic-CNT000001oKTnt.html

    Let's hope he'll be the only one.

    Sadly, a second doctor has died today in France.

    https://www.sudinfo.be/id175273/article/2020-03-23/coronavirus-un-deuxieme-medecin-tue-par-le-covid-19-en-france
  • patbpatb
    Posts: 4,617
    Not having a go at any individuals on this forum but we are in this mess not only because of the virus but our refusal, as a society, to take it seriously. (BJ still guilty of that). Our love of personal freedom and a refusal or lack of understanding re the nature of "exponential" has lead to this issue. other countries "got it" much earlier: It's a harsh fact but thousands are going to die needlessly. "Oh, it's just like the flu, fancy going down the pub?"

    http://theconversation.com/coronavirus-south-koreas-success-in-controlling-disease-is-due-to-its-acceptance-of-surveillance-134068
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    edited March 2020 Posts: 3,497
    There was a lockdown party in a Belgian café. Fine: € 4000.

    Dutch citizens who want to refuel their cars here will be punished. The fine is the same as in the above case.
  • patbpatb
    Posts: 4,617
    Stating the obvious but you can't "un-infect" someone. Fines are good but the damage is done.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,257
    Fines may be the only way to talk some sense into some people. There are still those who believe this is not that bad, or who think it a hoax of sorts, or--even more disconcerting--who believe themselves invulnerable.

    Don't worry, when Belgians know they'll have to pay for something, they cowardly retreat. ;-)
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,723
    Spain has recorded 462 deaths today so far, becoming the 3rd country after China and Italy to reach 2,000 total deaths. The Worldwide death-toll has now passed 15,000.

    1st death from coronavirus: January 9th.
    100 deaths reached on January 27th (18 days later).
    500 deaths reached on February 5th (9 days later).
    1,000 deaths reached on February 10th (5 days later).
    5,000 deaths reached on March 13th (32 days later).
    10,000 deaths reached on March 19th (6 days later).
    15,000 deaths reached on March 23rd (4 days later).
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Fines may be the only way to talk some sense into some people. There are still those who believe this is not that bad, or who think it a hoax of sorts, or--even more disconcerting--who believe themselves invulnerable.

    Don't worry, when Belgians know they'll have to pay for something, they cowardly retreat. ;-)

    Too true. ;-)
  • GerardGerard
    Posts: 6,022
    Saw that one today :

    "If you receive an E-mail with the header "Ring-a-Ding", don't open it. It's a Jehovah's Witness teleworking."

    And in the good news department :

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-coronavirus

    Ah, Karma !
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