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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-mass-home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days
I do.
I read The Hot Zone about 25 years ago and it forced me (and I imagine most of its readers) to recognize the serious dangers that viruses pose. I have been ringing that bell ever since, to no avail.
Yes indeed: it's hard to watch what's happening in America and the decisions its leader is taking and not keep this thread 'non-political'! :)
I'm certainly not convinced our leader in the UK is handling it well, but I do feel grateful I don't have Trump in charge here.
Yeah... I must say I've found him unwatchable interviewing people but I can't disagree with an awful lot of the points he's been raising, and I'd usually massively disagree with on a point of principle! :) He's been offering to pay the parking tickets received by NHS workers while they've been at work, which you can't argue with, really.
100 deaths reached on January 27th (18 days later).
500 deaths reached on February 5th (9 days later).
1,000 deaths reached on February 10th (5 days later).
5,000 deaths reached on March 13th (32 days later).
10,000 deaths reached on March 19th (6 days later).
15,000 deaths reached on March 23rd (4 days later).
20,000 deaths reached on March 25th (2 days later).
Part of the reason for the lockdown or "shelter in home" orders is to give governments time to implement a "test and trace" policy, of the sort that worked so well in South Korea. So when the lockdowns end, even if people come down with the disease, they can be very quickly tested and isolated and everyone in contact with them can be traced and told to self-quarantine or get tested, etc. So it is vital that the testing capacities of various nations rise dramatically in order for the lockdowns to end sooner rather than later.
And Camilla wasted a much-needed test on herself.
My suggestion to you: Don't watch Trump, don't give him any more attention, and stop whining about the U.S. and its lack of competent leadership.
Instead, focus on Governor Andrew Cuomo of New York State and his daily press conferences. Cuomo -- who should be POTUS -- is leading the charge in dealing with the virus, especially in NYC where it's spread astronomically. He's currently working with Trump (imagine that) to invoke the Defense Production Act and produce enough ventilators for the hospitals, offering to personally manage the transport of equipment and personnel to each hotspot in the country after NYC has flattened its curve. This is a true leader, putting partisan bullsh*t aside and focusing on saving lives.
My impression is that outside the U.S. people are so obsessed (unhealthily) with Trump, and so unwilling to look into the local politics of this situation, that they completely miss the work that Cuomo is doing. It's a shame.
Oh I saw Cuomo; certainly- as you say, he's a proper leader and has an actual understanding of the situation. But that doesn't make up for the fact that the guy he's answering to is saying stupid stuff and appearing not to understand the situation. I'm not sure where you are, and I think your use of the word 'whining' is unnecessarily trying to start an argument, so I'll ignore it.
The issue is that this is very much a global situation, and if any large country underestimates it, it's the problem of everyone. So it's great that New York state is taking it seriously, as are several other states (with California perhaps at the forefront) but the whole country needs to take it seriously and not see it as some sort of foreign 'Chinese' issue, or something which primarily affects the economy. Your use of the term 'unhealthy' is somewhat ironic in that regard.
"How the Pandemic Will End: The U.S. may end up with the worst COVID-19 outbreak in the industrialized world. This is how it’s going to play out," by Ed Yong (who in 2018 wrote a story for The Atlantic arguing that America was not ready for the pandemic that would eventually come).
https://cnbc.com/2020/03/25/watch-live-ny-gov-cuomo-holds-a-press-conference-on-the-coronavirus.html
Very sad, I'm sorry to hear this.
The essay posted by @Revelator above goes into some interesting thoughts on the lingering side effects of the pandemic, such as mental health, and the inaccessibility of resources for other medical conditions. Really sad, and like you said, has so many not-so-obvious other effects on society.
@fanbond123 you’re clearly baiting members with your comments now. A difference of opinion is not what you’re posting.
I will also ask other members not to continue to quote such posts. It adds nothing to the discussion.
If you don’t agree, simply ignore and move on.
Ditto here. At some point you just have to draw a line.
A vaguely depressing thought is that when all this is over, and lockdown has reduced the death toll to just tens of thousands rather than the worst non-lockdown scenario of millions, some individuals will say “ah ha! There weren’t millions of deaths like the alarmists said, so it was all an overreaction! What a waste of effort that lockdown was!” thereby completely getting cause and effect the wrong way round.
A worrying thought. I do hope society learns something from all this.
This is a stunningly good article that everybody should read.
The article is in French:
https://www.levif.be/actualite/belgique/coronavirus-quand-de-crem-saisit-des-produits-prevus-pour-la-belgique/article-normal-1269621.html
I just wanted to send you my support from Australia regarding this whole catastrophe. We are a little ways behind the rest of the world when it comes to the severity of this whole thing but we are unfortunately fast catching up and it is already pretty scary. I'm a teacher and we are in a battle with the government at this moment to get the schools shut down to follow suit with the 70+ countries that already did so. I hope you, your friends and all your loved ones are safe and that you are finding your way through this nightmare of unemployment, sickness and toilet paper shortages.
1. A lockdown starts to work directly, but the results are only visible after the incubation time of 14 days has passed. Up until that time the infection rate is still the one from the days previous.
2. A lockdown only works, or a stay at home order, or any other social distancing method, if people stick to it and take it serious. As in all nations the herd's been very slow to pick up. From crowded tube trains in London after the lockdown, to Florida beaches full of drunk teenagers at Spring break, those are the people who keep on spreading the desease.
3. Cultural differences: both in Spain and Italy people greet eachother warmly, with hugs and kisses. Also, families often live (close) together, even with grandparents in the same house. One kid bringing the virus in can kill the grandparents in the same household.
4. Political culture. In Southern Europe a culture of ignoring the political class (seen as corrupt) has made it very difficult to enforce the lockdowns. In Italy alone at least 200.000 people have been fined for breaking the lockdown rules.
Just some points to consider when stating FACTS. Especially the ones written in capital letters.
I wish you all the best in these hard times.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/state-governments-start-home-delivery-of-milk-fruits-vegetables-and-groceries/articleshow/74822477.cms
Hopefully more state will follow this to keep safe distancing.