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I don't agree with this, mostly we are discussing news about death, i am not saying we shouldn't but why discuss only about who have died? why aren't we discussing about how many lives have been saved? Why aren't we discussing some precautionary measures and the countries who have tackled it well. Did anyone actually bother to talk about that, it's very negative to simply discuss about how many died. I guess i am guilty of that as well.
The problem with that is that the stats about the actual deaths are more reliable than those dealing with the cured. Many people have Corona but hardly experience any symptoms. Many stay at home when they're ill and are under no obligation whatsoever to report being cured.
Also, while good news is important -- many of my posts in this thread try to bring a positive perspective -- it's the death toll that motivates people to stay home, make useful contributions; it's what urges leaders to take matters seriously (though many of them far too late and still minimalizing matters, e.g. by stating that it'll all be over soon even before it has begun.)
Death stats may be very unpleasant, I agree, but right now, we need them. The world will not find relief until those numbers are in decline. It's in our nature to focus on the bad, and for once, I won't fight that. Like it or not, those numbers will keep us sharp, though I admit that they will also cause fatalism, depression and doomsday thinking. So in that sense, I agree that we should, as much as possible, keep track of the number of cured people too, but with the caveat that those are far less reliable--but then in a good way; they are typically underestimations.
I'm not being ignorant, or trying to run away from the news. I'm taking this very seriously - one of my closest friends (27 years old, the same age as me) has cystic fibrosis so he has to stay inside for 12 weeks. I just don't see how posting figures and following updates from alarmist news sources (especially in the UK - Channel 4 News are practically apocalyptic in their tone talking about it) helps anyone. I just get tired and depressed hearing about it all the time - all other news might as well not exist at the moment. All we can do is try to get through each day as best as we can and try to look on the bright side of things - this will pass (Avenue Q's 'For Now' comes to mind).
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
Agreed, in full. It's good to be positive, but it's also important to have more than one foot in reality.
Sweden is still going for the herd immunity approach.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-elderly-in-lockdown-and-children-in-school-help-sweden-pursue-herd-immunity-r705m76dd
Let me also mention that I've been a smoker all my adult life- not big time, lites & not fully inhaling- more of a habit than a full-on addiction... well this virus has scared me into quitting cold turkey. Better part of a month now. If I'm gonna go a round or two with this virus (which it looks like eventually I will), I'll need to begin with 100% lung function.
like your comment.
Every bit of positive news is great.
My consolation is that no pandemic in history has been forever.
Stay safe stay home fellow bond fans.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/29/church-goers-around-the-world-ignore-social-distance-advice
"Timendi causa est nescire.
The cause of fear is ignorance.
— Seneca"
I haven't responded yet. I'm not sure whether I agree with him on these matters. The ignorant seem less frightened than those who keep up with the latest news, who have brushed up their "virology for dummies", who have been looking into the mechanics of it all...
What does the room think about this?
To paraphrase something that astronauts often say:
“If you are scared witless, you aren’t going to be able to do your job effectively. But if you’re not apprehensive about what you’ve about to do, if means that you don’t really understand what is happening.”
I would say, that the more informed you are, the better prepared you are to weigh the risks and take steps to minimize them. Without being too political (😊), what concerns me are not those that attempt to understand the situation and are fearful. Instead, it is those that deliberately choose to remain ignorant, and then resort to irrational or misleading pronouncements and place others at undue risk.
Here's how I see it. Some people are naturally more concerned with the deaths etc. and caring for people's lives. Others of us (myself included) are at this time more naturally concerned with focusing on the future, how we get back to normal. Both views are needed. Sometimes you find an equal balance in a person, but as we see here a person can be more on one side of the issue or the other. We're all needed in this regard. But I agree we need to look ahead, because what's happening now is not normal. I feel like some of us need to stay objective and not get overly concerned about all the bad things happening, though they may impact us in real ways, emotionally and mentally at times in various ways.
In CR, didn't M suggest to Bond that he should keep his eye on the big picture? A good question, how do you think Bond would function in such a crisis as this. And what would M say to Bond about it.
It is foolish to have no fear whatsoever of the virus and continue with life as if it doesn’t exist, so it is reasonable to be afraid of it.
However, we don’t have to let our fear of it cripple us. The more we learn about and understand the virus, the clearer it is what we need to do to curb it and bring it to heel, and the sooner we all do those things, the sooner we can get past it.
"They are all strong young men in good health. That way they would be prepared whenever the action starts."
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/52091905
Armed with my trusty thermometer here in New Orleans; Remember, wash your hands, frequently, don't touch your face. If you have to go out give each other a wide berth and if you call for medical assistance, be upfront with the first responders if you are experiencing symptoms; don't wait until you are with a doctor.
Like every great challenge and threat, this will be dealt with and shall pass.
100 deaths reached on January 27th (18 days later).
500 deaths reached on February 5th (9 days later).
1,000 deaths reached on February 10th (5 days later).
5,000 deaths reached on March 13th (32 days later).
10,000 deaths reached on March 19th (6 days later).
15,000 deaths reached on March 23rd (4 days later).
20,000 deaths reached on March 25th (2 days later).
25,000 deaths reached on March 27th (2 days later).
30,000 deaths reached on March 28th (1 day later).
35,000 deaths reached on March 30th (2 days later).
40,000 deaths reached on March 31st (1 day later).
Spain & Italy both recorded over 800 deaths today. France, the UK and the US are recording 300+ deaths daily. Iran and the Netherlands are recording over 150 deaths on a daily basis.
Mortality rates. Drag your pointer over the blue timeline below to compare over the last three years.