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Now I'm waiting for them to announce more to help individuals. Our statutory sick pay wouldn't even cover some people's rent and then there's 0 hour contracts etc. Mortgage payments and evictions should definitely be suspended while this is going on. I'm hoping for daily announcements as they get more on top of things and decide on what action they're taking.
If any good will come of this, it's that this crisis is essentially going to force governments into democratic socialist style support imo. It's really highlighting the flaws in America's healthcare system for example, with even right wing figures arguing for free testing etc. Hopefully when all is said and done we'll be able to see the advantages of those sort of systems. As much as I was making fun last night of the idea of Blitz spirit etc, it is reminiscent of the Second World War in a way. Efforts to rebuild the country after that led to the NHS. We're only ever one big crisis away from needing these systems. We need to protect the ones we have and argue for the ones we don't imo.
@DarthDimi @Benny Okay, I get what you mean now. No point arguing when we're all in this together etc. But civil comments on the politics involved is alright then? As with any crisis on this scale politics is going to play a large part in the outcome. There are reports saying that my government's original herd immunity plan could have caused over 250,000 deaths. I know it's not politics in the sense of left vs right, but the idea of what course to take, minimising economic damage or loss of life, is a political issue right?
Not trying to cause an argument, just trying to get a handle on what I can say on this thread. If I say anything over the line then I'm genuinely sorry and please let me know.
There is a lesson to be learned, here. I am interested to find out (but not optimistic) that it will be learned: that demand drives the economy, not supply. And to foster demand means to take care of the masses. I can see that what concerns you most is money, not people's safety. And it is this very thinking that has caused this catastrophe in the first place.
What "Capitalists" never seem to figure out is that it is their own greed, short-sightedness, and worship of money that ALWAYS brings about disaster. ALWAYS.
The sooner people in the US realize Big Pharma has been doing this kind of thing for a long time, the sooner they'll want to switch to M4A.
You may have read that in the article you linked to yourself, but that guy has opted for donating his stock of sanitizer since... probably to avoid the charges of price gouging. My sympathy is definitely limited. Just like with the guys who tried to sell ten face masks on amazon.de for a paltry EUR 999.00.
Anyway, what is M4A? I mean...it's not about the Apple file type, is it?
He was actually forced to donate.
https://www.today.com/news/brothers-who-hoarded-17-700-bottles-hand-sanitizer-forced-donate-t176028
M4A is short for Medicare for All
@007Blofeld There’s other options than starting another USSR.
Ah, thanks for the clarification! It was my impression that he was forced to donate...rightfully so. I had just never encountered the abbreviation M4A in that context...in spite of being aware of the political discussion.
This is all sodding depressing. Culture and life might as well stop until next year now.
For sure. I get into political discussions elsewhere where the abbreviation is used, whereas at MI6 I typically avoid such dicussions. Hell, I never even opened the Brexit thread, I'm pretty sure that's a doozy.
I honestly have no idea if he can keep those promises, but there’s something weirdly beautiful and touching about the Olympics as a sign of hope and light in the world. Let’s hope that by summer, this pandemic has been fought and the Games can go on.
I'd wager the Olympics will go the way of the Euro 2020...which, if they're lucky, will be the Euro 2021.
Here is news on Belgium:
Keep in mind that this is available for any small businesses (for big ones they're just scrapping rates for premises I think, haven't got round to watching the press conference, but that'd save them a lot of money). So, it might seem like a lot, but there are a lot of small businesses that are going to suffer. It's a good move.
Well said @TripAces.
I think Coronavirus has shown some aspects of modern [western] society up for what it is - self-centred, impatient, greedy, childish, and overly concerned with the trivial in the absence of something genuine to worry about.
I mean people complaining how unfair it was that a film was going to be delayed by a few months. How 'ridiculous' the whole thing was, while the Chinese were dying in their thousands. Hopefully this will be a moral reset of society on things that matter.
How come the US are offering free testing? Its almost like a free healthcare system works isn't it....?
Everyone stay safe, and let's all come out the other side....
I don’t know where you are getting your information but it is wrong.
Seasonal flu kills ‘only’ 50 to 60,000 because it infects about 50-60 million a year and it has a 0.1% death rate (ballpark).
This new virus has a death rate of about 1%, even more than that in circumstances where health services are overloaded, but let’s stick with 1% for now to keep the maths simple. If we let C-19 become as endemic as flu, if we let it infect about 50-60 million a year, then then that’s half a million or more new dead people, every year, on top of all the other threats that overstressed western health services have to deal with.
Seasonal flu on its own, with its pathetic death rate of 0.1%, can bring health services to the brink of collapse. This is an order of magnitude worse.
If we nip its spread in the bud then we don’t have to worry about it. That’s why governments are reacting so strongly. Act with resolution now, stop it in its tracks.
Although if a case pops up in the building it is likely that it will be cleared and the whole company are working from home.
My Wife works from home and has for the last decade so we'll be both together so should help to keep each other sane.
I understand it and alternate date of 26 June for example i thinking about for Kingsday is possible stil to soon too. I stil hope there change there minds from the moment it is possible to choose alternate month like September/October.
And there is stil a possible No Time To Die wil be delayd again because of news Italy possible can be on hold for year.
Looks like even now money is more important than human lives.
Medical company threatens to sue volunteers that 3D-printed valves for life-saving coronavirus treatments
Pardon me, but how can you tell people off for being upset that a film that they were so looking forward to seeing was delayed at practically the last minute (after it had been delayed twice already) for 7 months - not just a few?
I was keeping up with the news when the virus had broken put in China. I cared about it, but it's not healthy / fair on yourself to keep worrying about it when you can't do anything to help the situation. Everyday life (pardon the expression) has to carry on. Culture - be it films, television, literature, video games, music or sports and more matter to people. I thought ordinary cinema showings would be the last thing to be affected by this as long as people exercised caution - not panic and act like the world's ending.
God forbid people try to have a bit of escapism for a few hours and get away from the constant bloody news updates. No, coop yourself up in your house for months on end because of the fault of people's appalling hygiene and common sense and keep yourself company with fearmongering news updates, while waiting for the world to reset so that you can actually go out and enjoy life.
Unfathomable. Inconceivable.
"Miffed"... "Irked"... :Annoyed"... Sure. That's understandable.
But upset?
Save that emotion for the kakistocracy. Or the guy that's buying up all the toilet paper and eggs.
To borrow a memorable bit of promotional ballyhoo from an American exploitation film of the early 1970s:
"Keep telling yourself...
It's only a movie...
Only a movie...
ONLY A MOVIE!"
Forced quarantine will be 100% extended from April 3 to mid April or even to the end of the month.
Meanwhile people across Italy have been singing from their balconies in an effort to keep up morale:
Yes, but we can still play sports. And get our French fries. :ar!
Yes I am upset about it, it is a perfectly valid feeling and nothing is going to change my mind about it. Reading / hearing the news about all the delays since and everything that's happened in the UK since makes me all the more upset about this delay than I was before.
Yes I know it's only a movie but it still matters - especially in times like this.
Maybe if things get worse, more studios (including EON) might put their films on streaming services. I normally just watch TV shows on streaming services but I wouldn't mind doing this for films that I was going to see at the cinema which have been delayed and, in some cases (such as Black Widow and The New Mutants) haven't had new release dates announced at this point.
It's not being "upset".
It's being a bit down because movies that we have been looking forward to for months and even years (NTTD, Black Widow) had to be postponed.
You do understand the basic concept of a discussion forum do you? It's all about exchanging opinions that aren't facts.
Meanwhile, Bad Boys For Life, directed by Belgium's own Adil El Arbi & Bilal Farrah, is the most succesful movie of 2020 with 419.000.000 dollars.
https://www.bay939.com.au/news/local-news/115468-borders-closed-overseas-travel-banned
Australians banned from traveling over seas.
Non essential indoor gatherings limited to 100 people.
Heavy restrictions on aged care facilities.
Schools to remain open.