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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    jetsetwilly wrote: »
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    Almost time for my second dose and I am not concerned in the slightest, I will be glad when its done.

    Sanity prevails!

    Well done, and of course you shouldn't be concerned, as any rational, informed, balanced human being wouldn't be either.

    As for the sad minority out there who are too scared of their own shadow, and refuse to take the jab, I pity them at best, and hope they catch Covid full on max at worst.

    I am sure you are not scared of your own shadow, as long as both you and your shadow are healthy, both wear a mask or three, and are at least two metres apart and don t hang around eachother for too long.

    And don t forget to spray.
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  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    jetsetwilly wrote: »
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    Almost time for my second dose and I am not concerned in the slightest, I will be glad when its done.

    Sanity prevails!

    Well done, and of course you shouldn't be concerned, as any rational, informed, balanced human being wouldn't be either.

    As for the sad minority out there who are too scared of their own shadow, and refuse to take the jab, I pity them at best, and hope they catch Covid full on max at worst.

    I am sure you are not scared of your own shadow, as long as both you and your shadow are healthy, both wear a mask or three, and are at least two metres apart and don t hang around eachother for too long.

    And don t forget to spray.
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    :))
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited April 2021 Posts: 25,413
    Just had my second dose

    Zero side effects so far this time.
  • GerardGerard
    Posts: 6,022
    It's official : France is now above 100 000 dead.

    https://www.santepubliquefrance.fr/dossiers/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-chiffres-cles-et-evolution-de-la-covid-19-en-france-et-dans-le-monde

    But the first step towards a normal life will be implemented on May 15th (hopefully). Baby steps first : reopening of museums, authorization to eat on restaurant terraces (not yet inside), etc.

    Another thing : at work, we receive each day two masks for the next day. Trouble is, sizes have been quite uneven. Today, I had masks that were really too small for my big head. Almost cut my ears with the strings. Let's hope that the next batch is better.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited April 2021 Posts: 25,413
    Covid pandemic over in Britain, say experts
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/22/covid-pandemic-britain/amp/
    Vaccine rollout has led to drop in symptomatic infections by up to 90 per cent, data show, leaving virus at controllable ‘endemic’ levels
  • jobojobo
    Posts: 7,507
    My father finally got his vaccine today! It's taken ages... but it feels good to have it done!
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 25,413
    jobo wrote: »
    My father finally got his vaccine today! It's taken ages... but it feels good to have it done!

    That's good news, one of my parents got there first dose recently it's a relief to know they have that extra protection.
  • GerardGerard
    Posts: 6,022
    Some good news for us french : the official calendar for the (new) delockdown has been announced :

    May 3rd : no need of an attestation to outside the 10 kms limit. Which means I'll be able to go to Paris without the need of an excuse, like a medical exam.

    May 19th : curfew prolonged to 21.00 (instead of 7 PM like today), reopening of theaters, museums, cinemas, non-essential stores (Yeah ! I'll be able to get my watch repaired ! and buy a new chair and some new shoes.

    June 9th : reopening of restaurants and pubs, curfew at 11 PM.

    June 30th : No more curfews.

    More info (in french) here :

    https://www.topsante.com/medecine/maladies-infectieuses/zoonoses/chiffres-covid-avril-2021-coronavirus-france-634781?utm_campaign=NL_Topsante_29042021&utm_content=29042021&utm_medium=email&utm_source=EMAIL
  • GerardGerard
    Posts: 6,022
    Funny how history repeats :

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    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/1930s-cartoon-vaccine-warning/
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
    Posts: 7,854
    I've had my second dose now and aside from a sore arm, no ill effects.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,256
    I think the evidence speaks for itself. In the group of people who were vaccinated, the incidence of COVID infections has drastically decreased and the side effects of vaccines turn out mild and low in frequency at best.

    I'm also intrigued by the differences between vaccination rates among Democrats and Republicans in the USA. This could effectively pose problems when the country tries to reach group immunity.
  • Escalus5Escalus5
    edited May 2021 Posts: 628
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I'm also intrigued by the differences between vaccination rates among Democrats and Republicans in the USA. This could effectively pose problems when the country tries to reach group immunity.

    The experts have been saying for awhile that it's not possible to reach herd immunity in the U.S. for a number of reasons, including vaccine hesitancy but also the size of the population. The more attainable goal is to vaccinate the most vulnerable and get COVID to a "manageable threat":

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/health/covid-herd-immunity-vaccine.html

    Thanks to the Biden administration, the U.S. has been on the right track for months and has now vaccinated 120 million adults. That's good news, and with cases way down and the country opening back up, we're in a better position to help other countries get their vaccines.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,256
    Escalus5 wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I'm also intrigued by the differences between vaccination rates among Democrats and Republicans in the USA. This could effectively pose problems when the country tries to reach group immunity.

    The experts have saying for awhile that it's not possible to reach herd immunity in the U.S. for a number of reasons -- including vaccine hesitancy but also the size of the population. The more attainable goal is to vaccinate the most vulnerable and get COVID to a "manageable threat":

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/health/covid-herd-immunity-vaccine.html

    Thanks to the Biden administration, the U.S. has been on the right track for months and has now vaccinated 120 million adults. That's good news, and with cases way down and the country opening back up, we're in a better position to help other countries get their vaccines.

    Interesting. I didn't know herd immunity was considered an unattainable goal in the US.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    I too have now had my second jab, and in both cases I had no bad side effects Not even a sore arm.
  • Escalus5Escalus5
    Posts: 628
    The second shot of Moderna made me sick for 3 days, but better that than no vaccination!

    Most of my family is now fully vaccinated. We can meet inside and talk without masks and hug each other, which is great to experience again.

    I live in New York State, where over 50% of the population has gotten at least one dose.

  • jobojobo
    Posts: 7,507
    Escalus5 wrote: »
    The second shot of Moderna made me sick for 3 days, but better that than no vaccination!

    Most of my family is now fully vaccinated. We can meet inside and talk without masks and hug each other, which is great to experience again.

    I live in New York State, where over 50% of the population has gotten at least one dose.

    That is an impressive achievement, no doubt.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,917
    Not mentioned are those recovered from the virus that have the antibodies and are considered protected. Includes those asymptomatic never diagnosed/tested/confirmed.

    Going from events this week the US isn't the example for following the science, however heavily that phrase has been invoked. Confused messaging and conflicted actions quickly became chronic here.

    Regardless, the opening up couldn't be held back. Over time proposed restrictions and shoot from the hip guidance becomes unsupportable. So keep protecting the at risk and un-vaccinated--but those vaccinated and those that had the virus start to operate in freedom. And it grows from there.

    I've had both Pfizer shots. Only experienced some pain at the arm inoculation site, I was so busy with work it was hard to notice.

  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,083
    Congratulations to all of you who already had their jab(s). I finally received notice for my vaccintation date on the 8th of June, at the local vaccination centre. It will be the AstraZeneca vaccine, meaning that the second (final) shot will be another 12 weeks away, on the 31st of August. Still, I'm not complaining as long as it finally gets done. My wife who is not yet 60 hasn't heard anything regarding vaccination so far.
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
    edited May 2021 Posts: 815
    I get my second jab of Moderna in 11 days. It hurt for a while in my arm around the spot and on the day, I had a fuzzy, achy head, but they went away. Anyone (like my stepmother) who has a very sensitive immune system will struggle but only for a while. It’s all worth it. I’m all geared up to see NTTD this fall! [-O<
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,083
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Congratulations to all of you who already had their jab(s). I finally received notice for my vaccintation date on the 8th of June, at the local vaccination centre. It will be the AstraZeneca vaccine, meaning that the second (final) shot will be another 12 weeks away, on the 31st of August. Still, I'm not complaining as long as it finally gets done. My wife who is not yet 60 hasn't heard anything regarding vaccination so far.

    Update: My regular internist suddenly notified me last weekend that I could get a shot of Covid-19 Vaccine Janssen(R) - that's the Johnson & Johnson subsidiary in Europe - today at 17:05 sharp. And so I'm now fully vaccinated (except for the 28-day waiting period) and won't have to return for another jab. Good feeling...although my wife will still take a while to get hers. She will most likely be vaccinated (whenever) with Comirnaty (BioNTech/Pfizer) organised by her company's medical department and will have to wait at least six weeks for the second dose. But things are proceeding, and I have a feeling the third wave may be the last...for this time around.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,382
    Interesting. I got the J&J vaccine and the waiting period afterward in the US is only 14 days.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,083
    echo wrote: »
    Interesting. I got the J&J vaccine and the waiting period afterward in the US is only 14 days.

    Yeah, well...I guess the medical authorities come to different conclusions, and even those are updated now and then based on new insights. The intial recommendation for both Comirnaty and Vaxzevria (AstraZeneca) was a second jab after four weeks. In the meantime they are up to six for the former and ideally twelve weeks for the latter.
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    Thunderpussy wrote: »
    I too have now had my second jab, and in both cases I had no bad side effects Not even a sore arm.

    Me too. We are planning to fly to Gibraltar from UK later next month, but there seems to be a lot of confusion around what tests we need to do before we fly, when are there, and when we return, even though Gib is on the green list, and technically a part of the UK.

    I was hoping the government would have sorted these things about before we fly, and I'm still hoping that.
  • ThrasosThrasos
    edited June 2021 Posts: 1,469
    Life is getting back to normal here in the U.S. A photo taken of a hockey game on TV today...hardly anyone wearing masks, in a crowded arena. Good stuff, and a great game!

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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,256
    "Going back to normal" is going a bit too fast for me. I accept that more people than ever need a way out; 15 months is clearly more than our generation can handle. I'm just a little worried that, since the virus hasn't gone away just yet and since far from all of us have been vaccinated, we're not so much opening up to freedom as we are to another wave.
  • ThrasosThrasos
    edited June 2021 Posts: 1,469
    I understand what you say DarthDimi. But I'm happy the people at the hockey arena feel free to do what they want. It was also that way at the PGA golf tournament Saturday; hardly any masks. True, different countries (and states) are at different stages. But the way I see it, here in the U.S., I think everyone who has wanted the vaccine has gotten it; those that don't want it or won't get it, well that's their choice. And so everyone's made up their mind and I think this is the point where we say, okay, this is the end game at least for now, reopen. Besides, in the U.S. right now the Case Fatality Rate is only 2%, so at some point we just have to accept the way it is and live life. That's what I intend to do, and many others do too. Those that want to stay home or stay masked are totally free to do that. I guess if there's another severe wave, we can take steps to mitigate the problem.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,256
    Thrasos wrote: »
    I understand what you say DarthDimi. But I'm happy the people at the hockey arena feel free to do what they want. It was also that way at the PGA golf tournament Saturday; hardly any masks. True, different countries (and states) are at different stages. But the way I see it, here in the U.S., I think everyone who has wanted the vaccine has gotten it; those that don't want it or won't get it, well that's their choice. And so everyone's made up their mind and I think this is the point where we say, okay, this is the end game at least for now, reopen. Besides, in the U.S. right now the Case Fatality Rate is only 2%, so at some point we just have to accept the way it is and live life. That's what I intend to do, and many others do too. Those that want to stay home or stay masked are totally free to do that. I guess if there's another severe wave, we can take steps to mitigate the problem.

    I certainly hope so. But hey, it feels good to be able to do more, I will admit that. ;-)
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    edited June 2021 Posts: 2,582
    Melbourne lockdown again..........😒
    This city and country is run by amateurs..........
    Vaccinations are so disorganized.
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    The Delta coronavirus strain that originated in India has now been detected in Melbourne.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
    Posts: 12,526
    This may not be a popular position? But to me? Their should be no international travel until the planet is totally vaccinated to possibly the negate the ability of this virus to mutate so much?

    If its sadly to do with a family berievement? Then allow travel should the the people affected wish to so? But? Obviously they would have to comply with UK quarrantine protocols.

    This needs to be a worldwide cooperative response to a global problem.
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