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The tasteless Las Vegas setting alone, however, makes it the worst even before taking any of that stupidity into account. And even though Rome is weirdly empty during the SP chase, at least the scenery is gorgeous.
My thoughts exactly. I choose SP but would have chosen QoS. (Although QoS at least has semi-interesting stunts hidden by the editing.)
I agree with most that SP is devoid of any tension. Although hitting the environment button is a good laugh.
YOLT shows Bond firing at no car as it hasn't even come around the corner yet.
AVTAK to me the whole sequence feel un-inspired. I was going to nominate the Fire Truck chase but we are only going with car chases here.
DN I suppose I could cut it some slack. Just the part when Bond goes under the digger looks so fake and poorly edited but it was the first so I suppose it can be forgiven.
The AVTAK fire truck sequence hasn't been mentioned yet, but it would also be on my "shitlist"!
I never realized that they changed the car for the explosion! Back projection, Bond's extreme movements of the steering wheel and the fact that they drive through the same curve at least three times are enough reasons for my vote: DN. (It's okay for the time it was made but it's the weakest car chase nontheless.
Still hundred times better than the moonbuggy scene...
To quote bondcars.co.uk: "A 1939 La Salle funeral coach (Hearse). The car to be used in a car chase by the three blind mice to chase Bond in his Sunbeam Alpine through the Blue Mountains. A Humber Super Snipe MK11 is used as a stand in when the car goes over the cliff and bursts into flames."
Now I could not identify those two cars myself, but the supposed La Salle has the headlights to the right and left of the radiator grille, while the alleged Humber that gets wrecked has them on the fenders.
a plus 20 million pound action scene devoid from any excitement and tension, there have been better movies made for this amount, I wonder if the car chases from Ronin combined did cost this much money?
Basically this was the moment where not one person said "Nobody does it better".
Coming up in a alternative vehicles category! LOL!
You get the Vatican to close down so you can race past St. Peter’s and then remove digitally every single ounce of humanity form the scene. It just beggars belief.
You need tension and stakes in any chase. Things to avoid, things to potentially crash into. Spectres car chase looks and feels anaemic in every way which is a shame.
Those are just filming errors though. I can't imagine writing sequences off because of little goofs. These aren't supposed to be documentaries.
I'd criticise them because they fail at their job: they're not exciting or well-written or fun. But a continuity error can't spoil a sequence for me, nor whether the background is nice or not. I find some of the criteria surprising.
Yeah I think I'd nominate the QoS for this one too. It's a really poorly conceived sequence. I'd love to see the script for it: did they just write "BOND finds a GUN. SHOOTS at other CAR. Chase ENDS'? Dreadful.
People keep pointing to SP's chase. The production value is impressive, and the chase looks beautiful which is more than I can say with every other chase nominated. While there may not be much at stake, the chase is played for laughs and it usually gets a laugh from me every time I watch it.
This is interesting. Back projection is generally bad, of course, but never takes me out anymore and I've never viewed DN's chase particularly bad because of it.
Spectre on the other hand does have all those things going for it that you mention which I think only serve to set the bar for it higher, and IMO it's executed so poorly despite all these great factors that its just very disappointing.
At the end, the shortfalls of the DN chase don't take me out of the experience, whereas the shortfalls on the SP chase do take me out because of how good it could have been, even if the SP chase is "better" than the DN chase overall. I guess I don't really know where I land on this one, except all I can say is the DN chase doesn't bother me as much.
Things I like about the SP chase despite all of this: The DB10, Rome, and the fact that he drives it into the Tiber and ejects himself, and the quip to the guy on the bridge immediately after.
The Matera scene hopefully will remedy the Spectre chase. At least there's more than one car after Bond from what we've seen.
Yeah I agree. Of the two, the Dr No one is worse, but I can't really hold it to the same standard as the Spectre one. The Spectre chase is a let down because they were capable of so much more.
There's plenty I don't mind about it: I don't hate the conversation with Moneypenny, the gadget gags are fun and their final payoff with the flamethrower is kind of triumphant (and I rather love Craig's Bond talking to himself), I even like the old guy in the Fiat gag. But the constant choreographed sliding like they're on ice make them look like they're dancing rather than chasing, and it never steps up a gear.
It's my favorite too.
As for this round my vote for worst Bond car chase goes to:
Taxi Driver freaks out in Paris from AVTAK
Despite the glamourous location and John Barry's usually excellent scoring the editing between Moore and his stunt doubles during this sequence is simply atrocious here.
Yes by AVTAK it was getting tough to cover for the fact that Moore was in his late 50's and as such was not very active.
I take big points for the strange zoomed in rear projection here, especially as there is real footage when Bond first gets to Jamaica and is being followed with no rear projection being used.
In addition, it has the over the top steering mannerisms they used to have in older films where in reality Bond would have wrecked his car from the wild swerving motions.
Keep voting dear academy and I shall compile and award tomorrow!
As far as the worst goes, Dr. No makes me cringe the most followed by AVTAK. I can handle technology limitations (rear projection), but I can't accept things like squealing tires on gravel roads or a car chopped in half and functioning without issue (at least leaking fluids or something!!). I agree SP is dull and perhaps my favorite part is where the old guy is pushed to his parking spot, however it is very clear they weren't going 70+ mph. Having to spell out things like "music enabled for 009" kinda ruins it for me as well.
For me it's DN. Sean's driving acting is atrocious, and the zoomed in rear projection was not in any way the best that could be done in 1962. Even if you think the age is the problem, and that's just what movies looked like at the time, then they shouldn't have done the scene at all. It's all horrible.
Why? It’s brilliant.
Around that time Hitchcock had been doing car action scenes almost entirely with back projection too. See North By Northwest or To Catch A Thief.