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  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    The contrarian in me hates to vote for Connery, but it must be given to him in this category I believe.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 2020 Posts: 16,421
    thedove wrote: »

    This brings us to our next category. Lets make it a big one! We shall do Best Actor to play Bond in a debut! We will have extra candidates so that we can judge every actors debut in the role. Please judge the performance of the actor and not the movie as a whole!

    The nominees are:
    • Sean Connery from DN
    • George Lazenby from OHMSS
    • Roger Moore from LALD
    • Timothy Dalton from TLD
    • Pierce Brosnan from GE
    • Daniel Craig from CR

    Which actor delivers the best performance in their debut in the role as the worlds most famous secret agent!

    Tricky stuff.
    Connery owned the screen and established Bond as a hit, no mean feat. I think he got even better in later films but he's quite something right from the start. A cool and super-sexy, sophisticated alpha male action hero wasn't something even done in a British movie before I think. The whole film is all about him, and luckily he's more than up to the task.

    Lazenby is... not great. He's good at the fighting and has a bit of swagger at least.

    Roger is very good, although he's not quite nailed it yet. As someone recently pointed out, his performances in the Hamiltons are a bit weird- they hadn't figured where to go with him yet.

    Dalton is really enjoyable in Daylights and he hits the ground running. Maybe third film syndrome would have kicked in with him too but I do find his Bond to be lacking just a bit of screen presence though.

    Brosnan gets off to a flyer and is as good as he ever was. He's a walking cheese monster, but he's got undeniable charisma and charm.

    Craig is a a powerhouse from the start. The only Bond performance to get nominated for a BAFTA, it's a big, powerful, ballsy one and deserved all of the plaudits: he could do everything from gags to bone-crushing fights and emotion and became a generation's favourite Bond.


    So for me, first Bond film performance goes between Connery and Craig. And it's a damned tough one. The success of the whole series is arguably down to Connery being amazing in that first film, but then Craig had to live up to that and took it even further. If I could give them a joint win I would, but I think just because Craig had perhaps more he had to do, more emotions to convey, a deeper journey to explore, in that movie I'm going to give it to him. Daniel Craig, Casino Royale.
    He's strapped naked to a chair being tortured and gets an enormous laugh from the audience! And seconds later, in the same sentence, your emotions take a plunge and you feel for him because he knows he's about to die. That's big boy stuff.
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    Well its got to be Timothy Dalton for me!!
  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
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    Connery
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    Sean for me in DN. Confidently predicting he'll get a clean sweep too...
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    Sean, of courshe!
  • Well, it's nice to see Dalton & Craig getting some votes...but again, I think we're going to see a landslide here. Connery for Dr. No, no contest.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Easily Connery in DN. Craig isn t that far behind, and Lazenby deserves an honourable mention making not just his Bond debut in a staggering good fashion, but his debut in anything outside commercials.

    Dalton was all right, but both Moore and Brosnan had really weak debuts.
  • My vote goes to Dalton.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Easily Connery in DN. Craig isn t that far behind, and Lazenby deserves an honourable mention making not just his Bond debut in a staggering good fashion, but his debut in anything outside commercials.

    Dalton was all right, but both Moore and Brosnan had really weak debuts.

    Interesting: agreed on most there, but would you say Brosnan improved in his later films or are you just not keen on him in any of them?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    mtm wrote: »
    Easily Connery in DN. Craig isn t that far behind, and Lazenby deserves an honourable mention making not just his Bond debut in a staggering good fashion, but his debut in anything outside commercials.

    Dalton was all right, but both Moore and Brosnan had really weak debuts.

    Interesting: agreed on most there, but would you say Brosnan improved in his later films or are you just not keen on him in any of them?

    Both Brosnan and his films follow a zig zag pattern. GE poor, TND good, TWINE poor, DAD good.
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    Connery obviously gave the iconic performance that set the standard for all other Bonds, but Daniel Craig in CR gave the best performance of all the films, not to mention debuts.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    mtm wrote: »
    Easily Connery in DN. Craig isn t that far behind, and Lazenby deserves an honourable mention making not just his Bond debut in a staggering good fashion, but his debut in anything outside commercials.

    Dalton was all right, but both Moore and Brosnan had really weak debuts.

    Interesting: agreed on most there, but would you say Brosnan improved in his later films or are you just not keen on him in any of them?

    Both Brosnan and his films follow a zig zag pattern. GE poor, TND good, TWINE poor, DAD good.

    Interesting, I agree the films vary but I've never really thought his performance differed all that much. I'll have a ponder on it!
    :)
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Connery.
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    Connery in DN. The most important performance in the series and the only one that also created a superstar. Arguably a more "difficult" performance than Craig's because Connery played Bond at his most stylized and mythic and had to make that convincing, which he did in a way that looked effortless. Craig was excellent but he was given a more human Bond and allowed to play to his dramatic strengths as a character actor. He did not have to build an archetypal icon from the ground up in his first film.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Agreed, although Craig did an outstanding job in refreshing and re-grounding a character who had gone awry over so many decades, really since 1969 (or at least 1989).
  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
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    I'm going Dalton.

    Connery is mostly great in DN, but his driving acting and occasional barking put him below Dalton for me. Craig gives an incredible performance in CR, but it feels a bit removed from what James Bond is meant to be.
  • Agent_OneAgent_One Ireland
    edited May 2020 Posts: 280
    Sean Connery from DN. If his performance wasn't sure good as it was, I doubt we'd have the film series today.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    This is beyond tough, but it’s Connery in DN.

    In many ways selecting the “best” initial performance of the Bond actors is a little like (and please indulge me here for a moment) deciding on what is the best “Godzilla” film. Like the original “Gojira” (1954), Connery’s DN performance was such a historical milestone that its’ almost impossible to judge anything that came later, without using it as a point of reference. And that can be unfair to Lazenby, Moore, Dalton, Brosnan and Craig. To fairly appreciate a “Mothra vs. Godzilla” (1964), for example, I force myself NOT to reference the original. Instead, I view it as an unconnected variation on a theme.

    In short, "the first" really stands alone by itself. Connery set the “standard” before we even knew what the standard was.

    Now if I were to put Connery’s DN aside, I would rank them as:

    1.Craig CR
    2.Brosnan, GE
    3.Dalton, LTD
    4.Lazenby, OHMSS
    5.Moore, LALD

    Sorry for the monster talk, but when I saw this question, that comparison did come to mind.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Sean Connery from DN

    The greatest
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Loving the thoughtful remarks by the esteemed academy. I think it's an interesting category and one that we often haven't had to consider. I must say it's easy for me to put up these categories and nominees and sit back and take it all in.

    To my mind there are no right or wrong here with any of the thoughts that have been posted. I will be interested to see how others chime in and see this.

    To the person who said Craig is one of the greatest performances as Bond I foresee us having a best actor as Bond in any film. Which gives me an idea for a future Klebbie has well.

    But I digress! Let the voting and wonderful thoughts continue...
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
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    Timothy Dalton from TLD.

    I remember being pleasantly surprised and glad that Brosnan didn't start in 1987. Of course Connery was terrific in DN but my favorite Bond performance from him is in TB.
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
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    As much as I love each Bond's debut, when forced with the impossible task of picking between them, Rog will always be my pick.
    Roger for the Bondie!
  • edited May 2020 Posts: 6,709
    How could anyone ever beat this?

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Pretty sure the line starts "Bond.. " Silly Sean :)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    mtm wrote: »
    Pretty sure the line starts "Bond.. " Silly Sean :)

    Clearly drunk. I think I am taking my vote back.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    I'm going with Craig. So much riding on it with the backlash he faced and with the uncertainty to go out and give the performance he did. I was never so captivated in the cinema ever.
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    Craig from Casino. I legitimately think he should have been Oscar nominated. But he wasn't playing the Joker so who really cares.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    2Wint2Kidd wrote: »
    Craig from Casino. I legitimately think he should have been Oscar nominated. But he wasn't playing the Joker so who really cares.

    What does the Joker have to do with anything?
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    mtm wrote: »
    Pretty sure the line starts "Bond.. " Silly Sean :)

    Clearly drunk. I think I am taking my vote back.

    He sure looks a bit tipsy. Maybe a drink to calm the nerves before the first shoot?

    That's the spirit ;)
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