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What QOS is doing here is a mystery. A lean mean Bond thriller with a superb performance from Daniel Craig.
Yeah, DAD is naff and feels style-less and tacky, but it does at least hold the attention and isn't terrible, with a few decent thrills and spills; whereas DAF has more style and a bit of class (to the dialogue mainly), but it rather bores me. Worse, because I've seen it before, when I try and watch it again I know there's nothing coming up to keep my interest. At least with Golden Gun there's the promise of the car chase or another Chris Lee bit or even just a nice bit of set design or pretty location something like that to keep you watching, but DAF doesn't really offer anything to the Bond fan who's seen it before. Tame Mustang chase or rubbish Bambi and Thumper fight? Dreary oil rig? Nah you're alright thanks :D
No, I think it's a very ordinary film, with nothing to it beyond the action scenes, and they vary from 'fine if uninspired' to 'unintelligible'.
I agree with your TWINE nod though. It's one of the dullest ones, and if you watch a bit of, say, TMWTGG (which I think is one of the poorest) just before you watch TWINE, you'll notice all the wit and sparkle even a bad older Bond film had just drain away. Give me DAD over TWINE any day because at least it has a bit of life about it.
AVTAK though? No way, I'll defend that with my life. Love it :)
I've often said Craig has had really weird luck as his films vary between some of the very best (CR, Sf) and the very worst (QoS). I don't count Sp as the very worst as, although it has big 'ol issues, it's not that bad.
As to QOS, it's a film that I also had issues with. I also saw it with non-Bond fan friends and no-one liked it. I remember we all came out and went, 'Is that it?' After the excellent CR it was something of a let down. Both films have major issues for me, but DAD at least has some fun and style. Albeit completely over the top and silly. However Pierce seems to be enjoying himself, with tongue firmly in cheek. QOS has a few redeeming features, but the story just lets it down for me. Far too dour and bleak.
QOS gets my vote.
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+1. They're my 002 and 003rd weakest Bond film pics respectively after QOS.
@thedove I'm very happy to see my beloved MR and OP didn't make that bottom 005 list!
It deserves reappraisal!
DAD, on the other hand, is an abomination!
Okay - on its own merits, it's still not the worst!
My point is that many have mentioned the fact that QOS was a particular let down after CR, and therefor even worse. That is not a valid argument in my opinion.
As TWINE isn t nominated, I will vote for DAD this time.
I think we all judge them in relation to the other Bond films, don't we? I think it's not as good as most, if not all of them.
It's better than lots of other films.
Is it entirely on the Bond actor? Is it the music? The story? Direction? People say DAD is an abomination but I find there are certain aspects I quite enjoy. DAF I simply love the snappy dialogue and colourful characters. TMWTGG I enjoy seeing a harder nosed Moore and Lee is marvelous.
I haven't started to do the tally but I am pretty sure that every nominee has at least 1 vote. I wonder if a future category should be worst follow-up?
Well, in fairness to those type of comments, QoS does have the distinction of being an explicitly direct sequel to the CR narrative. The two are so strongly linked that it's inescapable that they will be compared more so than other successive films.
But as I said, for me, QoS is a very flawed film that I happen to like a lot more as time goes on and for me, it doesn't deserve to be here.
I can understand and even agree to some degree. BUT: Bond films are often constructed by Eon in response to the successes and failures of the preceding film. FYEO was the "down-to-Earth" Bond film after the excesses of MR. Etc. If Eon judges their offerings in light of the public response to the immediate predecessor, then why shouldn't we?
For instance I have read many reasons, all very eloquently expressed and rationally argued over many years, for why DAF is a terrible film.
Yet I love DAF, and often the reasons that people give for why they dislike it are the exact same reasons why I enjoy it so much.
What I will also say is that I am happy to watch any Bond film whenever it’s on. Unlike the ‘fans’ who moan about Star Wars films or Predator films or DC films or Star Trek films or whatever, I am happy watching any Bond film.
Even DAD, which is an atrocity, is still a very watchable atrocity.
As mentioned by others: Even the weakest Bond movies for me (MR, DAD and DAF) are films I like to watch again. They are all much more entertaining than most of the stuff on TV.
- Best final scene as Bond: e.g. Laz in the car, Connery looking at the stars, Moore in the shower, etc.
- Most/least believable performance playing a Russian character: e.g. Barbara Bach, Sean Bean, Ronnie Coltrane, Jeroen Krabbe, Izabella Scorupco, etc.
- Best/worst product placement: e.g. Ford Mondeo, Omega, Perrier, Dom Perignon, etc.
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