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Why disturbing? The worst aspect to it is that I can see is that Bond promises to give a poor child a good amount of money (in an off-hand joke which he doesn't actually expect the boy to be able to follow through on) and breaks his promise. It's a bit dickish of him to not even be apologetic about it, but as Craig said the alternative was having a passenger along in a high speed chase.. once he'd make the joke there weren't really any other options for him.
It's a cheap gag admittedly; but they needed Bond's boat to break down to increase the danger - he is left a sitting duck as a result - but they then also needed a quick and easy fix for that breakdown to allow Bond to escape.
Is not paying the kid the thing that makes Bond a jerk here? Or is it that he pushes him off the boat? Or is it just disturbing in that it is a child?
I can understand the last question, conceptually, but I think Bond did what he needed to in the situation. The boy being kept on the boat and potentially being collateral damage later would be worse.
Slapping Dink on the ass, for example, is more suitable because it's not something he has to do in that moment. He's not in any danger. There's no extreme circumstances. And again, for my choice, the Solitaire scenario, his approach there certainly wasn't his only option. What he got out of it makes his actions seem all the more ungentlemanly.
In the case of the boy, I think Bond threw the boy into the river, because he saw the child swimming into his boat earlier, meaning if Bond threw the child back, the child could handle himself. And another thing is Bond threw the child back, possibly to save the child from the chase. Maybe if he kept the child on, those goons might have harmed the child. And we wouldn't want to see a child harmed and possibly killed in a Bond film.
Bless his gentle soul. I think Moore in retrospect, did apologize for these scenes.
Yeah, true. That's what makes him BOND I guess. Just that as fans, those activities simply can't blur our humane side.
I don't mind the ones where he's a bastard and a bit cruel (like the Rosie ones) but the ones where he's a sex pest (like the dinner with Goodnight) or a weird rapist (this Solitare scene) I'm not keen on. But generally give me Gilbert's version of Roger any day: it fitted him like a glove and he exuded confidence doing it.
I never felt Bond was rude to the MR bellhop guy. He just tossed out a line and that was it.
The Dink thing was of it's time, most audiences back then likely thought nothing of it and leaving the unconscious Camille on the dock was to also keep her out of harm's way, likely.
So that leaves us with the Solitaire thing. Bond was trying to use his powers of seduction to win her to his side. He didn't know the link that would mean the loss of her powers. Still, he literally stacked the deck and that's why it gets my vote as most ungentlemanly from these choices.
Thanks for this list. Yes some have been dealt with in other categories. Shows you that the character has had his moments of not always doing the right thing. One small edit would be that I don't think Lisl was the wife of Columbo. I think they had more of Friends with Benefits thing, but I guess it's left ambiguous I suppose we could think she was married.
You also missed the smack and arm twist to Tracy in OHMSS. :(
TSWLM comes across as the most progressive in this list, and possibly GE. Shocking.
Certainly the list goes on:
DAF homophobia toward Wint and Kidd
FYEO Bibi Dahl--"Do you know, Bibi, you're fickle?"
OP "That'll keep you in curry"
AVTAK I'm not sure, maybe "Ohh my car. Ohh!"
TLD Rosika Miklos
LTK references to "Orientals"
TND Carver's moves
TWINE "ass" line
DAD surely a crime against humanity
And SF and SP have their moments as well
To be honest I think Bond happily sleeping with Tracy in the casino as a repayment for bailing her out at the gambling table is way creepier than the smack! :)
Apart from Dink, the others never even registered for me as problematic in any way. The MR scene never stood out as anything, and the kid in TMWTGG just came off as a cute comedic scene. As skmeone pointed out, Bond pushes him back into the water he was already in, after the kid unexpectedly manages to earn Bond's facetious offer.
But all our scenes did get some nominees. I shall keep voting open for a bit longer and then declare our winner.
Stacking the cards may look like trickery but it has no influence on her whatsoever. Bond doesn't believe in any powers at all, and the fun bit of LALD is that it keeps on playing with this: do those powers exist yes or no? There's no definitive answer. I admit it isn't a nice thing to do, but kalling it date rape is going way too far. She's hardly resisting now is she? Perhaps I'm don't undersstand religion that much but if your religion says jump off a roof, you don't doubt it and fight it at least a bit?
At the same time Bond throws a kid in the water at the start of a high speed race. Now I don't know about you guys but the last place I want to be when boats are chasing eachother is in the water they're racing on. It isn't a fun moment and it's definately putting the kid in (mortal) danger.
Seeing the future result of Bond tricking her doesn't make it any less of an exploitative trick. She doesn't believe in free will (consent): just the 'truth'/destiny that the cards tell.
She does it because she believes that it's inevitable- the cards tell her that. She doesn't do it because she wants to.
You just have to watch the scene to see it does! :D
That's not really what date rape is.
'The perpetrator may use physical or psychological intimidation to force a victim to have sex against their will'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_rape
Bond exploits her psychologically to get her into bed. If she believed she had a choice she wouldn't, but she doesn't believe that it's up to her. It's psychological intimidation.
Time for me to award the Klebbie to the least gentlemanly moment by our man Bond. And the Klebbie goes to...Bond stacks the deck against Solitaire and steals her powers! It received 12 votes.
The other moments came in with the following:
Our next category comes to us from an academy member, @marc who suggested a Bondie for best escape! Our man has had his fair share of escapes from lots of interesting places and situations. So here is the list of nominees:
I took the liberty of adding a nominee! Otherwise this is Marc's list. So my dear academy members. Which one of these qualifies as Bond's best escape? The criteria can include, the brainpower and creativity to escape the jam, the danger level that Bond finds himself in. Is there a satisfying quip at the end? Which one is the best escape from Bond. These escapes are the small escapes. We will have a future category to capture those epic long chases and escapes that Bond has done over the films!
I always thought Bond incredibly rude to C in his first scene. C had done nothing wrong by that point. No wonder the 00 “programme” was for the chop. M was right to be furious with him.