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  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    YOLT's lyrics are a classic example of those concoctions of nonsense that came up when a theme had to quote the movie title to show it belonged to the film - whose title in itself didn't really make sense, either. The YOLT lyrics make no more sense than those of GF or TB or (gasp!) TMWTGG. I do think that YOLT is among the top three (or so) Bond themes, but the lyrics are not contributing to that.

    I'll vote for WHATTITW...while acknowledging the lyricist did not need to make up quotes about or rhymes for a nonsensical movie title, but was allowed to write straightforward lyrics.
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    I’m going to throw a spanner into the voting and say Nobody does it better
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    Posts: 5,418
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    YOLT's lyrics are a classic example of those concoctions of nonsense that came up when a theme had to quote the movie title to show it belonged to the film - whose title in itself didn't really make sense, either. The YOLT lyrics make no more sense than those of GF or TB or (gasp!) TMWTGG. I do think that YOLT is among the top three (or so) Bond themes, but the lyrics are not contributing to that.

    I'll vote for WHATTITW...while acknowledging the lyricist did not need to make up quotes about or rhymes for a nonsensical movie title, but was allowed to write straightforward lyrics.

    Interesting! I love YOLT the song but I wonder if it's the orchestration that accompanies the lyrics or if it's the lyrics. Your post has given me some pause.
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    "We have all the Time in the World".
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,026
    thedove wrote: »
    Your post has given me some pause.
    That's what a discussion board should be about. :-)
  • Don Black - Diamonds Are Forever

    Pure brilliance
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    Posts: 8,249
    Difficut, difficult. But JW has a point. I do love YOLT's lyricks, but for consistency and storytelling will go for YKMN.
  • marcmarc Universal Exports
    Posts: 2,610
    You know my name
  • thedove wrote: »
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    YOLT's lyrics are a classic example of those concoctions of nonsense that came up when a theme had to quote the movie title to show it belonged to the film - whose title in itself didn't really make sense, either. The YOLT lyrics make no more sense than those of GF or TB or (gasp!) TMWTGG. I do think that YOLT is among the top three (or so) Bond themes, but the lyrics are not contributing to that.

    I'll vote for WHATTITW...while acknowledging the lyricist did not need to make up quotes about or rhymes for a nonsensical movie title, but was allowed to write straightforward lyrics.

    Interesting! I love YOLT the song but I wonder if it's the orchestration that accompanies the lyrics or if it's the lyrics. Your post has given me some pause.

    I'm glad to see the voting become more varied now. On the question of "lyrics or orchestration" for YOLT: on a truly great song, both are working in sync. I'd submit that this is why many of us do love this song so much -- the sum of the parts is better than either considered alone.
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
    Posts: 3,369
    Nobody Does It Better
  • jabalijabali Los Angeles
    Posts: 43
    I’ll go with YOLT for this one.
  • edited August 2020 Posts: 1,009
    I like funny lyrics, so I'm going to be in the minority here.
    It's a hard choice between DAF and NDIB. Both are cheeky, funny songs disguised as ballads. As a song, I would choose Carly Simon's effort. It's way more catchy for me. But DAF has those unshameful, racy sexual overtones that coupled with Shirley Bassey's outrageously corny, fake-orgasmic performance make for an awesome theme. It's a good introduction to the wackiness to follow.

    Don Black gets my vote.
  • edited August 2020 Posts: 572
    DAF definitely has the most wittiest and creative lyrics. The lyrics make the title a part of the story, unlike so many other Bond themes where the title is forced into the lyrics or those that cop out all together.

    I feel like a song like WHATTITW, while good, is an easier song to write, because there are less limitations to push clever lyric writing. The one thing it does do, is to lay the foundation of irony to help create a more emotional ending, despite however obvious it may be to a first time viewer.

    YOLT is by far the worst of the bunch. One life for yourself and one for your dreams? ...
  • Max_The_ParrotMax_The_Parrot ATAC to St Cyril’s
    Posts: 2,426
    The DRP are in full scale revolt. Parrots are protesting outside Parliament, the statue commemorating close ties with our dove neighbours has been pulled down and we are increasing tariffs on all pistachio exports with immediate effect as news breaks that not only was our vote for Roger's wonderful one liner not counted in the last round, but this time AVTAK receives no nomination at all.

    As DRP spokesbird it is my duty to point out
    • a sacred why, a mystery gaping inside
    • Earth's crystal tears
    • drench your skin in lover's rosy stain
    • fatal sounds of broken dreams
    • choice for you is the view to a kill

    as just a handful of the cornucopia of linguistic delights this song has to offer. Indeed comparisons with Shakespeare are littered throughout the many academic articles we have written on the subject.

    Why the academy is even bothering voting on this subject when then Bondie should have just been given to AVTAK by default is frankly beyond us.

  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    Posts: 3,996
    The DRP are in full scale revolt. Parrots are protesting outside Parliament, the statue commemorating close ties with our dove neighbours has been pulled down and we are increasing tariffs on all pistachio exports with immediate effect as news breaks that not only was our vote for Roger's wonderful one liner not counted in the last round, but this time AVTAK receives no nomination at all.

    As DRP spokesbird it is my duty to point out
    • a sacred why, a mystery gaping inside
    • Earth's crystal tears
    • drench your skin in lover's rosy stain
    • fatal sounds of broken dreams
    • choice for you is the view to a kill

    as just a handful of the cornucopia of linguistic delights this song has to offer. Indeed comparisons with Shakespeare are littered throughout the many academic articles we have written on the subject.

    Why the academy is even bothering voting on this subject when then Bondie should have just been given to AVTAK by default is frankly beyond us.

    I must be in a minority of one who finds that song utterly grating.

    I think it's more to do with how Le Bon 'sings' it....

    The lyrics are pretty meaningless....
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    I have always wondered who would win a fight between a dove and a parrot. I´ll get the popcorn ready...
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    edited August 2020 Posts: 5,418
    Looks like I have ruffled some feathers. Poor @Max_The_Parrot is squawking much like that scene in TLD when he is witness to a couple of deaths. While I could point out that I didn't create this nominee list and shift the blame. I shall stand up and be counted!

    I shall immediately send the dear parrot a lovely lapel pin to remind him why I am called the dove! Effective immediately his licence to vote has been revoked. For we are not a country club but an esteemed academy. ;)

    I apologize for this public feud between feathered friends! :) I shall return you to the voting!
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,133
    Nobody Does It Better.
    A Bondian classic.
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
    Posts: 814
    ‘We Have All The Time In The World’. Hal David is a tremendous writer.

    “If that’s all we have
    You will find we need nothing more
    Every step of the way will find us
    With the cares of the world far behind us”

    It’s not concerned with the flowery language writers so often use to describe love. Hal instead goes for a direct, unadorned wording, more clear and concise, right to the heart, which gives it a timeless, universal appeal.
  • Posts: 7,415
    WE HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD!
    Beautiful song, beautifully sung by Louis.
  • edited August 2020 Posts: 859
    YOLT have too much repetitivity : the first verse is original, but after that the second one is repeated, the third also. It's lazy, and beside the lyrics give another explaination of the title that the one of the novel.

    We Have All The Time In The World : too much repetitiveness : lazy writting.

    Diamonds Are Forever : very good lyrics, who makes sens (and double-sens ; far better than YOLT et OHMSS)

    Nobody Does It Better : same than DAF.

    Yo know my name : seems to lack of clarity (whose name it is ? who is the sing ? Bond ?). I'm not english but the "you yourself" seems wrong, there is other phrases that are obscure.

    DAF and Nobody does it, seems by far more elaborate and have lyrics who makes more sens.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited August 2020 Posts: 6,287
    The DRP are in full scale revolt. Parrots are protesting outside Parliament, the statue commemorating close ties with our dove neighbours has been pulled down and we are increasing tariffs on all pistachio exports with immediate effect as news breaks that not only was our vote for Roger's wonderful one liner not counted in the last round, but this time AVTAK receives no nomination at all.

    As DRP spokesbird it is my duty to point out
    • a sacred why, a mystery gaping inside
    • Earth's crystal tears
    • drench your skin in lover's rosy stain
    • fatal sounds of broken dreams
    • choice for you is the view to a kill

    as just a handful of the cornucopia of linguistic delights this song has to offer. Indeed comparisons with Shakespeare are littered throughout the many academic articles we have written on the subject.

    Why the academy is even bothering voting on this subject when then Bondie should have just been given to AVTAK by default is frankly beyond us.

    I must be in a minority of one who finds that song utterly grating.

    I think it's more to do with how Le Bon 'sings' it....

    The lyrics are pretty meaningless....

    I love AVTAK the song, but the lyrics sound like they went through Google Translate to Japanese, then German, then finally back to English.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,110
    Got to be Hal David for We Have All the Time in the World.
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
    edited August 2020 Posts: 814
    YOLT have too much repetitivity : the first verse is original, but after that the second one is repeated, the third also. It's lazy, and beside the lyrics give another explaination of the title that the one of the novel.

    We Have All The Time In The World : too much repetitiveness : lazy writting.

    Diamonds Are Forever : very good lyrics, who makes sens (and double-sens ; far better than YOLT et OHMSS)

    Nobody Does It Better : same than DAF.

    Yo know my name : seems to lack of clarity (whose name it is ? who is the sing ? Bond ?). I'm not english but the "you yourself" seems wrong, there is other phrases that are obscure.

    DAF and Nobody does it, seems by far more elaborate and have lyrics who makes more sens.

    Repetition in lyrics and music is essential if you want your song to be as memorable as possible. Hence why pop music is often repetitious. Plus I don’t see how the simple, direct, unadorned lyrics of ‘We Have All The Time In The World’ don’t make sense. As I elaborated upon above, the words are so universal, it’s easy for virtually anyone to not just understand but relate to.
  • edited August 2020 Posts: 7,507
    I think I will go with the already mentioned inwrite, You Know My Name. It fitted the tone and message of the film perfectly and of all the title song lyrics, it´s the one that has made the biggest impression on me.
  • Max_The_ParrotMax_The_Parrot ATAC to St Cyril’s
    Posts: 2,426
    thedove wrote: »
    I shall immediately send the dear parrot a lovely lapel pin to remind him why I am called the dove!

    Hang on, I get a free gift?? Right, I'll soon put a stop to those bird-brained protesters! AVTAK indeed, the DRP will be the laughing stock of the avian community.
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    I will also go with You Know My Name. Jobo summed it up well above. It's a perfect way to start the Craig era, saying you now my name but here's an introduction also to you, new 00 agent. In answer to an above poster's comment, it's obviously about Bond.

    It could be interpreted as M or fate addressing Bond about his new career path.

    As for the other nominees, any of which could be a good choice:

    YOLT is a great song, but I like the music better than the lyrics, which are fine. But it's one of the least romantic Bond films, so it doesn't fit real well in that sense.

    We Have All the Time in the World is also good for its film with strong lyrics.

    DAF has long been a favorite and Shirley Bassey was perfect to sing it. Can we all just admit John Barry was a master?

    Nobody Does It Better could be considered a quintessential Bond song. Despite this, I've never been real attached to it. The line "Though sometimes I wish someone could" always seems strange. Does that mean the singer knows Bond will eventually leave them?



  • Posts: 2,917
    I would say YOLT has the most evocative lyrics.

    "You only live twice, or so it seems
    One life for yourself, and one for your dreams"

    Our dream life often feels like a separate existence. The limitless of the imagination means you really can live twice. But as we will see, some dreams can come true.

    'You drift through the years and life seems tame
    Till one dream appears and love is its name"

    You are dead for much of your normal life, until you stumble upon love. And since love is the only dream that can come true, it is truly a new life.

    "And love is a stranger who'll beckon you on
    Don't think of the danger or the stranger is gone"

    Carpe Diem. Yes, love can be terrifying and dangerous, but if you ponder that, you will hesitate and lose the stranger who can give you new life.

    "This dream is for you, so pay the price
    Make one dream come true, you only live twice"

    Nothing is free. Anything worthwhile will require effort and sacrifice. To live again you must endure the terror and risks of love. Love is a dream that will come true and bring you new life. You must take it, because it's the only second life you can get.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited August 2020 Posts: 8,216
    I fell in love with YOLT again when they used it in the final scene of Mad Men season five.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    Posts: 3,996
    Revelator wrote: »
    I would say YOLT has the most evocative lyrics.

    "You only live twice, or so it seems
    One life for yourself, and one for your dreams"

    Our dream life often feels like a separate existence. The limitless of the imagination means you really can live twice. But as we will see, some dreams can come true.

    'You drift through the years and life seems tame
    Till one dream appears and love is its name"

    You are dead for much of your normal life, until you stumble upon love. And since love is the only dream that can come true, it is truly a new life.

    "And love is a stranger who'll beckon you on
    Don't think of the danger or the stranger is gone"

    Carpe Diem. Yes, love can be terrifying and dangerous, but if you ponder that, you will hesitate and lose the stranger who can give you new life.

    "This dream is for you, so pay the price
    Make one dream come true, you only live twice"

    Nothing is free. Anything worthwhile will require effort and sacrifice. To live again you must endure the terror and risks of love. Love is a dream that will come true and bring you new life. You must take it, because it's the only second life you can get.

    Excellent assessment. Much better than I could do. My favourite Bond song. The film not so much...
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