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But, at least it's exciting.
Like most things that aren't the dialogue or Barry's music in DAF, the attempt to kill Bond by Wint and Kidd is boring as hell. That gets my vote.
It's a good point. I do find it quite a nightmarish idea to be stuck in a tunnel under a desert though so it's not quite at the bottom of the list for me.
What about luring Bond into shooting a pheasant while having a sniper try to kill him? Then when that doesn't work, just give a taxi to the airport...
Haha! I love that :D
I guess when Drax says 'you defy my attempts to provide an amusing death for you' he literally means it: he doesn't see any point in killing Bond unless it's funny! :D
Looking at the list, I'll choose DAF for this one. Bond could've easily woken up right next to an escape hatch and left before the welding rig neared.
He was already unconscious in the elevator. Kill him there, damn, kill him!
But I have to admit that the YOLT moment isn't much smarter.
And yes, the MR pheasant shoot doesn't make much sense but it is such a cool moment that I would never write something against it.
You've all convinced me.
- I don't think Lippe is trying to Kill Bond at all. After all they just met. It's a message to Bond to stop nosing around. Of course he's kind enough to return the favour and steam Lippe a little.
- This one I never fathomed. As has been stated before, where does the little plywood come from? It's also rather convenient that Bond was holding his hands there. Did they think it would look like an accident when the plane crashed leaving a dead passenger and no pilot (presuming they presumed Bond can't fly. He certainly didn't hand in the flying plane himself). The execution of the scene is appalling as well. The escape of Bond, the crash, it doesn't look natural at all.
- Yes, one that leaves a lot of questions anwered, but at least you can spin a story around it, that they paid off those workers to bury him and expected him to get lost in the piping system. Smart, however, it definately is not.
- This one comes directly from Fleming, and in the book it's rather well explained. A perfect way to a 'clean kill', where everything points to a natural accident, with the added bonus of shark-cruelty over a simple kill.
- At least Zorin explains why he does it this way, and for him it shouldn't make that much of a difference if they survive or not, having them set up with the kill in the first place. Shooting them first and then putting them in the elevator might point at him, as he was seen going to the building as well.
So, YOLT wins.
True, but that's just a bit of sloppy villainism. And how should he know they'd left her scuba gear at that place just for such an occasion.....
I have always found Helga's attempt laughable. She over complicates things and the whole thing looks shabbily executed. So YOLT gets my vote.
Wint and Kidd do some nice attempts and kills in the film. But taking him to a pipeline when he's unconscious makes no sense. Given how brutal they have been in their attempts and successes through out the film. I give it a pass just because DAF is a guilty pleasure of mine.
Yes it is impossibly convenient. And ridiculous! :) Why does she even do that?
Yes it is impossibly convenient. And ridiculous! :) Why does she even do that?[/quote]
It's explaine in the comic book adaptation : it's a habit she has. Leaving a scuba gear with some air till inside allows her to stay longer on underwater archeological digs. Logical, if you think about it. Of course, the villains couldn't know that.
Do you think AVTAK is an attempt to correct this mistake in FYEO? ;)
Oh okaay... I guess that sort of does make sense. How odd they don't give her a quick line on the surface to explain it.
You mean the tyre-breathing bit?
And yet he belittles the Brittish for having a strange sense of humor ;))
But no. Why not arrange for the lifts to stop beside each other in mid air and then jump from one to the other and kill Bond there. Makes perfect sense... :))
Ah but you reckoned without his masterstroke of... pretend ambulancemen! :D It's all very logical really- the whole thing was to lull Bond into a false sense of security so that the evil paramedics could creep up on him unawares. Genius.
Commander Ross responded with some good comments on the other candidates.
-I also don't think Lippe was attempting to kill Bond, just harm him. Not sure this has aged well as a scene or form of torture. A lot of youngsters probably have a good laugh at this one.
-The YOLT plane scene sure is getting a lot of votes. I think the plan makes sense. Did that plane have an Osato logo on it? They could very easily have said Bond stole the plane and it crashed and killed him. Sure it's another case of why not just shoot him, but so are all the other examples.
-For years, I never thought the Kristatos keelhauling scene looked that dangerous. It just seemed very escapable. My most recent viewing of FYEO I liked it a bit more and found it more sadistic than I had. I still quibble about the all too convenient incidence of Melina leaving her tanks below. Do divers actually do that?
-As Commander Ross said, Zorin planned Bond and Stacy's deaths well with the elevator fire. His problem, like so many villains before and after, is not learning from earlier mistakes of making sure Bond actually dies, given his surviving so many other attempts on his life. Of course, the building was on fire, so... Also, Zorin seems surprised to find Bond alive at City Hall. Wouldn't the thugs that invaded Stacy's house have reported he was alive?
I’ve always loved that line, it’s utter madness :D
My understanding of that scene in the film is likely tainted by the similar events of the novel where it was explicitly stated that Lippe was trying to warn Bond off rather than kill him - at least at the beginning. There was a real competitive streak to the events that occurred between the two and it just got out of hand, and got worse when Bond had his tattoo analysed. The film, already long, doesn't have the luxury of explaining this.
Same with the keel hauling sequence, the novel made it seem worse - with the coral ripping into the flesh and salt water flushing the wounds etc. Saying that, I think the sequence in the film is one of the best of the series. Moore is great in it, the effects are excellent, it's a great moment for me.
The explanation of the tanks being there to help with Melina's diving makes a lot of sense. Would have been nice to let us know in advance, though. Kristatos assuming they have been quickly eaten by sharks is convenient, but it's a Bond film...what can you do? The only think I put it down to in these cases is villainous arrogance. Sure, they should know better, but they just don't.
Yeah I think as echo says, AVTAK handled that better- it would have been nice if there was a bit of equipment down there which they repurposed in some way- like we see a guy using a water jet to clear debris from the ruins, but maybe if Bond had seen someone using some sort of air blower to clean an artefact off they could have gone down and used that maybe.