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I don't think him being not funny makes him worthy of a smack, though.
Sure, but when you're trying to fill a stage show and make it interesting I'd have thought you'd be grateful for what you can get! :)
Well it was more about him taking the mick out of what seems to be a medical complaint which is a bit of a dick move (possibly he didn't know), and she didn't seem too happy about it either.
I dunno, some folk are saying it shows a terrible decline in society, some are saying the opposite, there are big debates about violence, toxic masculinity etc. : personally I think it's not really all that important and is just a bloke giving another bloke a dry slap for insulting his wife, which has been happening for hundreds of years and will continue to happen forevermore.
Smith is now cursed to having to make jokes at his own expense about slapping people for the next five years at least.
At least he didn t slap a woman.
Amy Schumer deserves to be smacked by anyone. She insults people on a daily basis, and isn’t funny in any way shape or form.
I have one name for you: Don Rickles. And since you're an american you'll know exactly what I mean.
And no comedian deserves a slap or anything else. Get a grip!!
Yes, nothing like resorting to violence because you don't like a joke someone made, only to promote "love" immediately after. Funny how accepted it is, but if it was you or me, we would've been instantly tackled and arrested.
Congrats to NTTD for nabbing an Oscar. I personally don't like the song at all but always nice that the films can get some awards recognition in some consistent respect.
Yeah, I know why Smith acted the way he did and I didn't find Rock all too funny either and making fun of a medical condition is absolutely below bar. But the point of my response was that it was implied that Rock deserved a smack because the poster never found him funny, which is a bit silly to me. He was a dick on this occasion, and that's all that really matters.
I've no real takeaway from the whole thing other than a mediocre comedian got slapped by one half of one of the most annoying couples in Hollywood, and the latter then went on to make a speech about love and protection. Embarrassing for all involved, really. Except for Denzel, who never ceases to amaze me.
I generally disapprove of violence. I think Smith could have let it pass and leave the embarrassment entirely to Rock. But he went "street" and I don't judge Smith for that; I judge Rock. I've never understood this man's career anyway. Why Kev Smith cast him in Dogma is beyond me because Rock isn't even fit to act in that mediocre film--which I like, by the way, but I know that Smith's films come with serious limitations. ;-) Either way, Rock has never been able to amuse me. That said, I also strongly believe in poking fun at everything, but the jokester has to then be able to take the heat from his target. To be honest, if someone, anyone, said something like this about my wife, I'd probably go a little ape too. That is unless I'm calm enough to realise that if I did nothing, the Internet would probably curse Rock, whereas now some folks run a sympathy club for Smith and others for Rock.
Meanwhile, Billie deserves that statue. I just wish that other seriously overlooked endeavours in the Bond films throughout the decades had also won an Oscar. Why oh why Barry never got an Oscar for any of his Bond scores (I mean, come on: YOLT... OHMSS...?) is beyond me.
That's fair enough. They both acted like tits really.
Did he deserve a smack? As much as any guy who's insulted someone's wife, I guess. Whether you think that's worthy of a smack comes down to how you feel about that sort of thing, but whether it's right or wrong we do live in a world where you might get a slap from a guy if you insult his wife so it's best to be prepared for it if you do (I'm not saying you would yourself! :) ).
Yes, as I say; a lot of folk are using this incident to say something about something and I'm sure a lot of newspaper comment articles have been written all around the world today, but as you say: it's really just a pair of men embarrassing themselves in different ways. They'll be okay tomorrow.
Yes, it's maddening. I think only a few scores got nominated back in the day, but they had some pretty stiff competition: Hamlisch was nommed for TSWLM I remember, but Mr Williams had scored a film called Star Wars that year and come up with a few good tunes! :)
The LALD song was up for one too, but lost to, er, Marvin Hamlisch with The Way We Were (pretty good song!). Nobody Does It Better lost to "You Light Up My Life" (not sure about that one)...
FYEO lost to Arthur's Theme (another good song), although I think it's debatable whether either of them should have won as they were nominated alongside 'Endless Love' by Lionel - tough choice there.
It is a little odd that none of Barry's songs were nominated. Maybe the more American tracks like FYEO just resonated more with the Academy.
Haha! It's never been an urge I've had before so long may it continue! :)
Agreed on all fronts. I had worried that Encanto might cause a shock in the song category. I don't love NTTD as a song but I like it well enough to consider it a worthy winner - not something I could say about Sam Smith. But anyway, I digress....good for Billie.
Not really,considering the Oscars are a joke.
Can we just NOT DO THIS. In any form.
No matter your personal opinion (had it coming, I'd do the same thing; way over the line, not defensible - ETC.) the last thing I (or others, I hope) want to see is chat about hitting a woman or ANYBODY, any gender or age, being "okay" or "deserved" on this forum. Just don't. It is offensive and can lead, even if subliminally, to minimize or condoning any sort, any degree of assault or battery on women.
Violence is wrong. Pick another thread for cheering this on. I am writing this just to have my say. Joking about it, saying a woman should be hit, is not ever okay (even as a casual, just kidding, remark). And that should apply to men, to everybody.
You’re advocating violence? Smith embarrassed himself and his whole family.He should have been removed from the ceremony and banned from appearing at the event for life for that.
If a regular person like you or me did what he did we would be in jail right now.Smith gets away with it because of his privilege.
What can I say? Way to go Mister Bond.
Exactly! Comediens tell jokes at other eagle's expense. Ricky Gervais slaughtered several attendees at awards shows and was never physically assaulted.
Besides, it wasn't the joke that made Smith slap Rock, it was a culmination of years of public ridicule, frustration, emasculation and the need of constant approval from his wife which made him lose control. Regina Hall earlier that night poked fun at their marriage. Will Smith is a simp and embarrassed himself by trying to regain a level of masculinity by assaulting Chris Rock. Had it been someone else of a similar size or bigger Smith would have stayed in his seat and continued his overly animated fake laughs.
Like I said, in an alternate universe he kept his cool, let it pass, and allowed the world to judge Rock, not him. But, I must admit that I'm not so sure I wouldn't have lashed out at Rock myself. Not if someone had said something about me--I can take it. But if my wife suffered from an awful condition and a third-rate comedian goes that low on stage, her pained response might kick me into action too. I'm not sure, though. I'd probably be too much of a coward to do it there and then. But I'm not willing to go so far as to throw stones at Smith because I'm not sure how I would have responded. I know it's not the right thing to do but we're an impulsive, emotional species sometimes. Plus, I cannot begin to fathom the amount of stress he must have been under. That doesn't condone anything, but it might explain something.
Evidently, I'm never going to approve of violence, even knowing that in the weakest or angriest of moments I'm probably capable of it too, and I'm neither proud nor happy about that.
Yep, neither of them exactly covered themselves in glory, but I do think it's understandable if not excusable, and: I tend to think it's really not that big a deal. Folks are reacting as if he murdered Rock with all of this 'violence must never be condoned' stuff but it was a bit of a slap around the chops, you'll see much worse in Cardiff city centre on a Saturday night and over much the same sort of thing.
I don't think any politicians are likely to smack any satirists. We had John Prescott here in the UK punch a guy who threw an egg at him whilst out campaigning about 20 years ago and his party got re-elected.
I just don't see it as some sort of major change in culture boding ill for the future: as Dimi said, if you take the mick out of someone's medical condition you're just as likely (perhaps more) to have got a smack in the mouth in the 1960s or 70s than you are now. It's pretty natural.
Or Swansea Wind Street. Or just Swansea in general.
It's possible, I have no idea how much these Hollywood types know about each other. If true I doubt he'll ever say so as it'll just sound like an excuse.
Having three extreme athletes do the honors sort of made sense. There has been a tight relationship between Bond films and extreme sports since 1969. Case in point: both Laird Hamilton (DAD) and Robbie Madison (SF) have completed stunt work on Bond films.
You can read more in my article, "The Hero with Mad Skills: James Bond and the World of Extreme Sports" in Vol 1, Issue 2: https://jamesbondstudies.ac.uk/