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I guess Smith wasn't sure how to react at first, and then something boiled up inside him fast. Rock wasn't being professional, he was lucky. If Smith had done nothing, Rock would have taken a lot of heat, I presume. Now it's Smith who takes some of the blame too. Once again, the 'bully' gets away with it because his 'target' wanted to get even.
What I meant by professional in this instance is that Rock at least didn’t feel the need to escalate that after the slap at all. It’s not like he went trying to hit Smith or anything like if that sort. I feel bad for Smith in a sense because this is going into yet another session of kicking a man while he’s down, but I still think it was an embarrassing moment in general. Not a good look for either Smith, Rock, or the Oscars.
That's what's pretty funny here. I'm sure he wasted no time laughing at jokes at the expense of others all night but can't handle one directed at his family (or at least could, until he saw Jada's slight disapproval and thought assaulting someone else was the smart choice). Insane.
Absolutely insane. It shows how fragile the ego of some of these celebrities are.
https://deadline.com/2022/03/2022-oscars-tv-ratings-rise-academy-awards-abc-disney-will-smith-chris-rock-1234989041/
Yep. Rock made a tasteless joke, but there was no reason for Smith to get up and slap him. Rather than escalate things, Rock moved on. He was the bigger man.
Similar to Tom Cruise (a fellow Scientologist), Smith likes to project the image of being a nice guy and having it together... but then the curtain will drop every so often and you can see that he's completely unhinged.
Also, nowadays people don't care about awards, they care about likes. One is no longer praised for one's achievements but for the number of one's followers online.
Another issue is that half the time awards go to films that hardly anyone has seen. The big ones, the massive crowd pleasers, the films that are the bread and butter for cinemas and allow the small fish a pool to swim in, have a history of being scandalously overlooked. Not always, of course.
Can we just NOT DO THIS. In any form.
No matter your personal opinion (had it coming, I'd do the same thing; way over the line, not defensible - ETC.) the last thing I (or others, I hope) want to see is chat about hitting a woman or ANYBODY, any gender or age, being "okay" or "deserved" on this forum. Just don't. It is offensive and can lead, even if subliminally, to minimize or condoning any sort, any degree of assault or battery on women (or men).
Violence is wrong. Pick another thread for cheering this on. I am writing this just to have my say. Joking about it, saying a woman should be hit {reference to another comment}, is not ever okay (even as a casual, just kidding, remark). And that should apply to men, to everybody.
As opposed to the video for The Godfather 50th anniversary tribute. They begin well enough with the Godfather theme music and then make the mistake of putting some kind of hip hop music under the remaining that completely stripped the power of the scenes, to try to likely make it more appealing for a younger crowd into that music. It was great to see Coppola, Pacino and De Niro but it just felt abbreviated compared with the other tributes.
https://www.mi6community.com/discussion/20812/the-2022-oscars-thread#latest
Oh please! I have seen you write countless essays here on how political correctness ruins comedy, how people should be able to accept jokes they find offensive. Now you are more or less defending Smith's right to react with violence just because he is a celebrity you like? :-??
Will Smith will not take 'some of the heat'. He will take all of the heat, and rightly so!
Oh I agree. I'm absolutely biased. I have admitted that already. And I know that Smith was wrong. I have admitted that too. I have also admitted that I'm not sure what I would have done in his place.
If it had been Smith on stage and Rock blowing in with a smack, I might not have been so fast to say that he was right. I did let my liking of Smith and disliking of Chris Rock cloud my judgement. But, three days later, I'm seeing things a bit differently, still not as black-and-white as some, but differently. I do not approve of what Smith did, but I'm still not sure how I would've reacted in his place.
Also, this will not change my appreciation for Will Smith the actor. Because if I let an actor's personal life get in the way (Cruise, Connery, ...) or a director's ethics (Hitchcock, Whedon, ...) I'd have almost no films to enjoy anymore.
Lastly, I didn't go back to change my first few points because I think it's okay that I can change my mind after some time.
Good to see someone admitting they were wrong. Not so usual to see these days.
I was too quick to respond, and my fan love for Will Smith bled over to this discussion way too easily. So yes, I admit I was wrong. I don't mind saying so, either.
I also think the matter is not quite as right-or-wrong as people seem to think. There's the fact that, indeed, no comedy should result in violence. And then there's a man under a lot of stress who was about to break anyway, obviously struggling with this unexpected spotlight moment for his wife, not knowing how to respond at first, then overcompensating for that the next moment. Norman Bates said that "we all go a little mad sometimes," and he was right. But that doesn't ever justify violence, of course.
Norman Bates is indeed a role model to have ;) :P
But yeah, I agree with you. Bottom line is that the Oscars was yet again a horribly bad show