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  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Gettler wrote: »
    Sorry if this was asked already, but would it have been possible to create new nanobots designed to eliminate the deadly nanobots inside an "infected" person (such as James)?

    One of many possible solutions the creative team could have come up with to solve the nanobots problem; the thing is, what was more important to them was to tell this story, and narratively speaking, the nanobots had to be "eternal" for them to tell the story they wanted to tell.

    Wish they had kept it as a biological weapon rather than a technological weapon. Was it because of COVID that they changed this?
  • HildebrandRarityHildebrandRarity Centre international d'assistance aux personnes déplacées, Paris, France
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    Scientifically speaking, it's just impossible for the nanobot thing to work as described in the plot, and you wouldn't even need to get "good" nanobots to destroy the bad nanobots.
    Nanobots are microscopical robots that get into the body through the skin or just breathing. But they're an artificial thing. Contrary to regular bio weapons, or plain old regular bacterias and microbes, they just can't replicate. If you get some amount of nanobots at some point, just like a bank account, when you "share" some of them with somebody else, you lose some inside your body. And eventually you'd run out of your stock.
    Besides, if they're microscopical, they won't stay in your blood forever. They'll go the way any water from your body eventually goes within weeks, through your kidneys and into urine. Or as sweat.
    Then, as nanobots are robots, they need a source of power, unless Obruchev found some way to keep them active forever (and to avoid any filtering from the human body). As Nick just posted, it was just some technobabble way to get Bond cursed forever, as he's a threat to the life of Madeleine and Mathilde.

    There are at the moment conspiracy theories about the Covid vaccines featuring 5G microchips that monitor anybody who gets the shot. These are some of the most non-sensical theories possible. First of all, given the state of technology, the size of the smallest chip that can be produced these days, especially if it needs to have some kind of antenna, would be much larger than the diameter of the needle. Then, the microchips would be "eliminated" within weeks just by going to the little boys (or girls) room. And naturally, it would be incredibly contrived and useless to put together such a plan, when you can just monitor mobile phones due to their unique IDs.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    Really?
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    edited November 2021 Posts: 13,805
    Gettler wrote: »
    Sorry if this was asked already, but would it have been possible to create new nanobots designed to eliminate the deadly nanobots inside an "infected" person (such as James)?

    I'm getting Fantastic Voyage-Tron-Matrix vibes from this pitch.

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    I'm in the "what's on the screen is what happened, unless explicitly stated otherwise" camp.

    Yeah @NickTwentyTwo, in line with that I've got what I call the Charly Gordon approach to film viewing.

    Solution:
    THAT THAT IS, IS.
    THAT THAT IS NOT, IS NOT.
    IS THAT IT? IT IS!
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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Gettler wrote: »
    Sorry if this was asked already, but would it have been possible to create new nanobots designed to eliminate the deadly nanobots inside an "infected" person (such as James)?

    One of many possible solutions the creative team could have come up with to solve the nanobots problem; the thing is, what was more important to them was to tell this story, and narratively speaking, the nanobots had to be "eternal" for them to tell the story they wanted to tell.

    Wish they had kept it as a biological weapon rather than a technological weapon. Was it because of COVID that they changed this?

    Biology and technology can be merged, and is. It is a tecnocratic dream to include humanity in this .
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    They didn't change anything because of COVID. Purvis & Wade pitched the idea for nanobots back in 1998 for TWINE.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    It still was a nice coincidence. While quite a few people are being suckered into thinking that vaccines are used to pump them full of mind-altering little gizmos, the latest Bond film makes matters even worse. I wonder how many left the theatre going "see!, TOLD YA!" ;-)
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited November 2021 Posts: 14,582
    I left the cinema thinking, "I'll never use another perfume atomizer."
  • RyanRyan Canada
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    I left thinking, "poor Dou Dou."
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    matt_u wrote: »
    They didn't change anything because of COVID. Purvis & Wade pitched the idea for nanobots back in 1998 for TWINE.

    Fair enough!
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    Where was young Maddy dragging Safin, and why?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Where was young Maddy dragging Safin, and why?

    I think she just wanted him out of the house.
  • Posts: 564
    Where was young Maddy dragging Safin, and why?

    My guess is to throw the body into the lake or bury it in the snow — get it out of the house.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    Where was young Maddy dragging Safin, and why?

    Well, she thought he was dead...
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    More of a CR question, but seeing as it’s related…

    Was Bond technically dead for a few seconds in the poison scene in CR? The noise in the background sounded like his heart flatlined. If so, this plus NTTD gives a whole new meaning to “You Only Live Twice!”
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    matt_u wrote: »
    Where was young Maddy dragging Safin, and why?

    Well, she thought he was dead...

    Nice of her to let him keep the gun... ;) but as you say, she thought he was dead.

    And also Safin keeping the gun is what saved her life.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    More of a CR question, but seeing as it’s related…

    Was Bond technically dead for a few seconds in the poison scene in CR? The noise in the background sounded like his heart flatlined. If so, this plus NTTD gives a whole new meaning to “You Only Live Twice!”

    He is revived with a defibrillator and if I recall my last first aid course correctly, those only work with ventricular fibrillation (at least that's what the internet tells me is the translation of "Kammerflimmern") where the heart muscles just quiver around a bit instead of fully pumping, but aren't totally stopped yet.
    The defibrillator de-fibrillates the heart by basically stopping it in the hope that it restarts on it's own and in a working rhythm. I don't know if that counts as being technically dead.
    And if I understood all of that correctly, it would actually be a gaffe if we heard or saw a flatline, because that isn't treated with a defib (and a modern defib wouldn't release a shock if it can't measure a shockable rhythm, even if you press the button).

    PSA: Do first aid. Go to a course. If you are able to whithout endangering yourself, help people who are hurt or unconcious. If they are not breathing, try to clear their airways, make sure their chin doesn't fall on their chest to keep airways open. Do CPR. Even if you can't/don't want to do mouth-to-mouth, do the chest compressions. The blood still has oxygen in it that needs to reach the brain. As the teacher in my course said: If in doubt, press on them. If they are concious after all, they'll tell you to stop on their own. Screaming means breathing, which is good. If you have a defibrillator available: Use it. The modern things will tell you how to do CPR and measure themselves if a shock is needed or not.
    Even if you can't do any of that, call first responders if you find somebody unresponsive and make sure the professionals can get to the person in need as quickly as possible.
  • edited December 2021 Posts: 15,124
    I just rewatched The Third Man and is it only me or does the whole last act of NTTD borrows heavily from it? The whole medical angle of both films seem also very similar.
  • Ludovico wrote: »
    I just rewatched The Third Man and is it only me or does the whole last act of NTTD borrows heavily from it? The whole medical angle of both films seem also very similar.

    I can’t say I see much similarities between the two films, but then again, but I’d need to see NTTD again to confirm that.
  • billqsbillqs Birmingham, AL
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    Maybe I missed an explanation. About a third of the way into the film, after he is almost drowned along with Felix Leiter's body, he escapes and is on the ocean briefly. Next scene he is on a boat with a new Aston Martin and dropped off in England. Who came to Bond's rescue?
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited December 2021 Posts: 7,551
    billqs wrote: »
    Maybe I missed an explanation. About a third of the way into the film, after he is almost drowned along with Felix Leiter's body, he escapes and is on the ocean briefly. Next scene he is on a boat with a new Aston Martin and dropped off in England. Who came to Bond's rescue?

    He’s on that dingy, and then that huge British (presumably) vessel finds him; the V8 is back in London in Bond’s personal garage.

    For clarity: he’s never on a boat with the Aston.

    It’s an interesting transition, I like it a lot but some don’t.
  • billqsbillqs Birmingham, AL
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    Thanks! It was my first viewing and several of the transitions didn't seem to be fully explained (not the first time in a Bond film.)
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    billqs wrote: »
    Thanks! It was my first viewing and several of the transitions didn't seem to be fully explained (not the first time in a Bond film.)

    I'm of the thought that not everything needs to be over explained (I avoid using the term "fully explained", because I didn't think it was missing any necessary explanation). IMO it was clear enough how it was done; hopefully you'll feel the same way on your second viewing.

    The one transition that always trips me up is the Jamaica to Cuba transition.
  • billqsbillqs Birmingham, AL
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    Thanks again. I really enjoyed the film, and have been a huge Bond fan since I first watched Thunderball on the ABC Sunday Night Movie as a child. I can see where the Jamaica to Cuba transition is easy to miss. Thanks for clarifying the rescue scene for me!
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    billqs wrote: »
    Thanks again. I really enjoyed the film, and have been a huge Bond fan since I first watched Thunderball on the ABC Sunday Night Movie as a child. I can see where the Jamaica to Cuba transition is easy to miss. Thanks for clarifying the rescue scene for me!

    No problem! And welcome to the forum!
  • Posts: 15,124
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I just rewatched The Third Man and is it only me or does the whole last act of NTTD borrows heavily from it? The whole medical angle of both films seem also very similar.

    I can’t say I see much similarities between the two films, but then again, but I’d need to see NTTD again to confirm that.

    The images in the end I thought looked quite similar, with the water and the tunnels and everything. There's also that thing about killing millions that remind me of Harry Lime's speech in the Ferris wheel.
  • FeyadorFeyador Montreal, Canada
    edited December 2021 Posts: 735
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I just rewatched The Third Man and is it only me or does the whole last act of NTTD borrows heavily from it? The whole medical angle of both films seem also very similar.
    I don't really see the similarities myself, except that the shots in the tunnels and cramped spaces of Poison Island are vaguely similar to those of the sewers and streets of post-war Vienna, minus the expressionist lighting and camera work that help distinguish The Third Man as such a great film.

    But it reminds me that in the cheerful cynicism & self-justifying charisma of the villain so memorably portrayed by Orson Welles, we missed out on an actor who might have made a great Bond villain himself.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited December 2021 Posts: 3,152
    I could definitely see Orson Welles as a Bond villain, especially if he was up for it and relishing the guignol bravura aspects of it the way that Bardem did. Ok, Welles might've been tempted to chew the scenery every now and again but, hey, heightened reality and all that. Mind you, I can see why Fleming wanted Noel Coward as Dr. No, too.
  • FeyadorFeyador Montreal, Canada
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    Venutius wrote: »
    I could definitely see Welles as a Bond villain, especially if he was up for it and relishing the guignol bravura aspects of it. He might chew the scenery every now and again but, hey, heightened reality and all that. Mind you, I can see why Fleming wanted Noel Coward as Dr. No, too.
    James Bond: You'll kill 60,000 people uselessly.
    Auric Goldfinger: Hah. American motorists kill that many every two years.

    A very Harry Lime line if there ever was one!
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    Venutius wrote: »
    I could definitely see Orson Welles as a Bond villain, especially if he was up for it and relishing the guignol bravura aspects of it the way that Bardem did. Ok, Welles might've been tempted to chew the scenery every now and again but, hey, heightened reality and all that. Mind you, I can see why Fleming wanted Noel Coward as Dr. No, too.

    Yeah, he could be a good Le Chiffre, I think.

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