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I feel I caught most of the dialogue on my second viewing in IMAX. Also, I didn't notice a real material difference in my IMAX viewing versus my regular theatrical viewing (AVX). But I don't think my IMAX theatre was a ""true"" IMAX presentation (whatever that means).
I also got the sense that Grace Jones was meant to cameo in the Spectre meeting scene as MayDay, but was only going to be in one shot which is why she didn't do it (apparently she was unhappy with the amount of screen time she was going to get for her cameo so she backed out).
The only film I've seen in IMAX, Blade Runner 2049, also, to me, didn't feel like it was presented in true IMAX. It was super loud but that was about it.
Odd because up until then he’d just been about vengeance. They tried to make him into something more.
Agreed. His motivation was quite ambiguous at best.
Unlike other Bond films which feature the villain front and centre and the driver of the plot, Safin and his plot felt a little secondary to the story they were trying to tell.
And what were his skills living forever whereas Bond's skills died with his body? I didn't really get that. I was waiting to see a bunch of Safin clones or his genes passing on to other, stronger clones or something to that effect. What would he be passing down if all he's doing is killing SPECTRE and selling nanobot weaponry?
I think he meant that Safin would be "tidying the world" long after he was dead with the virus, but once Bond died, he would no long be able to do the same.
That makes more sense. I kept waiting for a bigger reveal I hadn't heard about previously but that's understandable too.
Felt that too! And more: Bond only met his rival at the end, which is kinda non sense for me. I missed that eye contact, the rivalry, things like this. Bond was always a step behind.
That’s my impression. Originally, I suppose, it was a straight-up garden of death, and the plants were the source of a poison or virus, like MR.
Then COVID-19 happened. Across the whole world many families have lost loved ones to a real, actual virus, and so they needed a rewrite.
So they turned the virus into nanobots and re-recorded some of the dialogue and added a bit of animation of nanobots doing nanobot things on a computer screen.
He’s a man suffering from a God complex and the cause was his encounter with Madeleine. That day he both killed and gave life.
He genuinely thinks he’s a good guy and like an invisible God from his base he puts the basis for a new, far less populated, world. He doesn’t even know who’s gonna be killed. He doesn’t care. That’s up to the buyers. Like a God gives life but then it’s up to the single being to decide what to do with this gift, he distribute death and then it’s up to other people to decide who’s gonna survive. Entire races, who knows.
I also find it cool that he wanted to make Swann blind with the tea, since he wanted to keep her forever with him in his family island…
Yes, that makes the most sense to me.
Well it is made to think about Monet for sure, for what is shown as well as the gigantic size
and well Monet nympheas are under Japanese influence. Like the japanese garden, the kimono, the mask of Noh, hm, Dr No ? :)
Safin has lots of common with Dr No IMO, from the "God" lines to the base (I think we see the same hole on the ceiling at one moment than in the Dr No's room with the spider), and even from a meta point of view : If I'm right Safin and Dr No are the only vilains Bond has only two scenes with,, at the end of a movie, aren't they ?
That could be it, but I recall specifically noticing that she throws something out before washing her hands. I found it kinda weird that there wouldn't be a place to dispose of it in the stall, but it definitely reminded me of that interview.
I also thought the tea she is given is the plant they talked about in her office. However, I didn't understand why he would kill her. But I didn't fully understand their relationship anyway.
And a third thought, maybe more for the Easter egg thread, but I'll put it here, because I am unsure: I re-read the last few chapters of YOLT to look for comparisons and there Blofeld defends his poison garden as being a tidier way for people to commit suicide than f.e. jumping in front of a train. It's a bit of a stretch, but did P&W want to incorporate that idea but didn't quite get there with Safin's speech?
We saw the ice crack under the weight of little Madeleine running across, but then how does it not break when Safin follows her?
Maybe because she was running and he was walking slowly?
Yes, but it's already cracked, and he's significantly heavier to boot.
Under the ice it's shown the current carries her a distance, to the thicker ice that Safin fires bullets through to retrieve her.
Her mission is to secure Obruchev, who apparently was spotted by some kind of intel source in Cuba. M later says they thought Bond was dead. So what's she doing in Jamaica? How does she know he is there and what does he, at that point have to do with the whole thing anyway? He basically only takes up Felix's request because she annoyed him (or didn't ask the right questions).
Maybe she is following Leiter and Ash and finds Bond through them, but the first time we see her is on the side of the road right outside Bond's driveway even before Leiter and Ash start shadowing him, so that doesn't really work
Edit: And while we are at it: How and why is Primo there as well?
This. I'm not happy he died (or did he?), but there was no way they could get him out of there. That was just not him.