Mission: Impossible - films and tv series

1129130132134135306

Comments

  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    Posts: 13,978
    Sky Movies has renamed a channel in Cruise's honor. Says a lot about his star power. I don't recall Sky doing this for anyone else.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,967
    I've said for a while now that he's one of the few stars left with actual, proper star power, it seems.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    Posts: 13,978
    He might even be the last genuine star left.
  • Posts: 1,917
    jake24 wrote: »
    People hate him because he's a member of one of the most messed up and universally despised organizations in the world.
    Yeah, I mentioned that in my post. I don't hear him mentioning it in every interview he does or even think about the association. I like his movies and he's always enthusiastic in promoting them and that's the impression it leaves on me. Same with John Travolta. Yeah, he did the Battlefield Earth film, but I always see him as friendly and accommodating to the public and interviewers without endorsing the organization.

    Not to name-drop, but I got to interview Travolta when he came to the place I was working 15 years ago and he couldn't have been a nicer man. He really defined what a public perceives a star to be like as far as image, no star trips or ego.

    He never talked about the organization and those attending his arrival didn't seem to be concerned about that association at all. Thing is despite the massive failure of Gotti, with his resilience Travolta will likely make yet another comeback. It's interesting to watch.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    Very true, Cruise doesn't seem to be forcing it down anyone's throats these days, which is a good thing.
  • Posts: 1,165
    Sky Movies has renamed a channel in Cruise's honor. Says a lot about his star power. I don't recall Sky doing this for anyone else.

    They had an Adam Sandler channel a few weeks back...
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,715
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,133
    After MI:GP I wondered how they could top it, on the wow factor.
    Then after RN I thought the same. By the looks of this, it's taken it up a notch.
    Credit to anyone who puts that level of commitment to entertain an audience.
  • edited July 2018 Posts: 1,661
    BT3366 wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Can't wait to see this. Bond 25 has some act to follow. Plus I can't believe there are so many Tom Cruise haters. He's made some of the most enjoyable films of the last 30 years or so. Plus the stunts hes prepared to perform are unbelievable. Much better than all the green screen rubbish that most so called tough guy actors resort to. Over to you Dan for B25.

    I've never understood the Cruise hate either as I've been a fan since his early work in films like Risky Business and The Outsiders when I was a teenager. It could stem from his being very successful, his outspoken support of Scientology or some of his bizarre behavior.

    All I know is the guy is a completely devoted professional and brings the results to the screen. He seems like the kind of person if you were to meet him he would be genuine and friendly. Bring on MI Fallout and then the Top Gun sequel.

    This 100%. I guess the hate comes from the fact that he can be "weird"? But who here isn't weird in their own way? From what I can tell, he's never done anything criminal, never gotten drunk and made a fool of himself, never gotten into a publicized shouting match on a project. It seems unanimous that he's one of the friendliest and most down-to-earth people to work with on any film set, and he's certainly one of the most devoted actors in the world. He doesn't give anything less than 100%. Plus, he's a terrific actor. IMO, he's one of our last great movie stars, and we'll never see another like him.

    There is lots of stuff online about the evil of Scientology; how it is a brainwashing cult or money making scam. The victims claim it's a terrible organization. Scientology has a James Bond connection. Paul Haggis - co-writer of Casino Royale - a former Scientologist. He came out against it:

    Paul Haggis: 'I've seen Scientology ruin people'
    “Yes, it was a big mistake," he jokes. “I have to go back right now! Apologise to them if you would and see if they’ll take me back!”

    And then he swiftly collects himself: “Of course not. No. Except waiting so long. Being so stupid for so long. But it’s really insidious. I had no clue how insidious it was until I’d been out for, like, a year. You look back and go, ‘Oh my god.’ I was always an outsider and if it can affect me that much – a cynic and a loner and an outsider – go figure! You have to be really purposefully blind, you have to choose to be blind, and that’s what I was doing and that’s what all my friends were doing.”

    He still has friends in the church, he adds, but hopes they “open their eyes” and “see it’s not going to save the world, it’s not going to save them”.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/film/going-clear-scientology-and-the-prison-of-belief/paul-haggis-interview/

    I have nothing against Cruise as a person and never judge his films based on what he believes, but I wouldn't pay to see someone that actively promotes a questionable organization like Scientology.


  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    It's incredibly easy to avoid a person promoting whatever their beliefs may be. For me to see anything about Cruise and scientology i'd have to really go out of my way to search for it. The Tom Cruise I know and care for is the actor that makes entertaining films for the most part and on that note this film looks like it's going to be iconic in the action/stunts department. EoN better be ready to take notes.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    doubleoego wrote: »
    It's incredibly easy to avoid a person promoting whatever their beliefs may be. For me to see anything about Cruise and scientology i'd have to really go out of my way to search for it. The Tom Cruise I know and care for is the actor that makes entertaining films for the most part and on that note this film looks like it's going to be iconic in the action/stunts department. EoN better be ready to take notes.
    +1
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2018 Posts: 15,715
    The soundtrack by Lorne Balfe:

  • edited July 2018 Posts: 628
    jake24 wrote: »
    People hate him because he's a member of one of the most messed up and universally despised organizations in the world.

    Putting the Scientology aspect aside (which is something a lot of people cannot do, and I respect that), I simply don't like Cruise. There's a narcissism about the guy that I find extremely off-putting, and I find his acting in general to be way too calculated and self-conscious. Only in EYES WIDE SHUT has Cruise really impressed me, and that's probably because Kubrick wore him down until he could get something truthful onscreen. Otherwise the guy is all surface.

    As for the MISSION IMPOSSIBLE series, I stopped watching after Part 2 (which I thought was appallingly bad), although FALLOUT has my interest piqued because the stunts look amazing. I also like Christopher McQuarrie as a director -- I enjoyed what he did with THE WAY OF THE GUN and JACK REACHER (despite Cruise).
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Cruise was somewhat a narcissist some ten years ago. His attitude was changed somewhere early in this decade. He started to become humble and respectful towards the person before him.

    However, I also do wildly despise the Tom Cruise of the late 90s and the 2000s overall.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Turns out the Norway scenes don t take place in Norway in the movie, but in India.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited July 2018 Posts: 8,216
    Cruise was somewhat a narcissist some ten years ago. His attitude was changed somewhere early in this decade. He started to become humble and respectful towards the person before him.

    However, I also do wildly despise the Tom Cruise of the late 90s and the 2000s overall.

    The strong backlash he received in the aftermath of that Opera interview and the debate about pharmacy-aided mental health treatment actually did him a lot of good. He seemed to become more humble and allow the "superstar" persona come from his work alone rather than his personality/ego, which makes it a lot easier to like him because he always puts 110% into his work.
    The soundtrack by Lorne Balfe:


    It's not bad. Nowhere near the level of the previous scores by Kraemer or Giacchino, though. Couple of good tracks with some neat integrations of the theme. Lots of Zimmer-esque filler.

    That being said, if McQuarrie is to be believed about the tone of the film, Balfe's style might be pretty appropriate for it.
  • edited July 2018 Posts: 628
    The strong backlash he received in the aftermath of that Opera interview and the debate about pharmacy-aided mental health treatment actually did him a lot of good. He seemed to become more humble and allow the "superstar" persona come from his work alone rather than his personality/ego, which makes it a lot easier to like him because he always puts 110% into his work.

    Yeah, I've seen that argument -- or variations on it, like the ever-popular "always brings his A-game" -- but the appeal of the guy now has a lot to do with the public's interest in seeing if he's going to kill himself doing stupid stunts. Certainly not his acting, where he's simply coasting.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,216
    Escalus5 wrote: »
    The strong backlash he received in the aftermath of that Opera interview and the debate about pharmacy-aided mental health treatment actually did him a lot of good. He seemed to become more humble and allow the "superstar" persona come from his work alone rather than his personality/ego, which makes it a lot easier to like him because he always puts 110% into his work.

    Yeah, I've seen that argument -- or variations on it, like the ever-popular "always brings his A-game" -- but the appeal of the guy now has a lot to do with the public's interest in seeing if he's going to kill himself doing stupid stunts. Certainly not his acting.

    That's a separate argument, to be fair. And I don't think that's entirely correct, either. Outside of Mission Impossible, nearly all of his films do well without him doing a "stupid stunt" - if there is such a thing as a stupid stunt in action cinema.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited July 2018 Posts: 15,423
    Don't know about you guys, but I like Balfe's take on the whole of Mission: Impossible. Love that he uses piano keys to make a suspenseful point.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    Yeah Cruise may be a lot of things but I've never thought of him as an actor who coasts or phones in a performance.
  • Posts: 5,767
    He's more of a performer than an actor in many films. For comparison, someone (presumably the director) got him to really act in Collateral, Magnolia, and Lions and Lambs. Possibly also in Eyes wide shut, but I haven't seen that yet.
    Be that as it may, I'm time and again fascinated by the fact that despite many of Cruise's performances being self-indulgent, his films are always very entertaining indeed. I deeply respect him for that.
  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
    Posts: 871
    Eyes Wide Shut is a terrific film. Both Cruise and Kidman are great in it.
  • Posts: 5,767
    Connery for instance was also more of a performer than an actor in many of his films. He got away with his trademark Scottish accent playing an Irish cop in The Untouchables and a Russian submarine captain in The Hunt for Red October, to name but a few. Some stars use their presence more than their acting to be entertaining. De Niro for instance can do both and more, he can smoke the screen with larger than life presence, and he can also blend in and be almost invisible if he doesn´t want to steal somebody else´s show.
  • Posts: 3,274
    Turns out the Norway scenes don t take place in Norway in the movie, but in India.

    Likewise with the scenes shot in New Zealand? He is wearing the same clothes.
  • edited July 2018 Posts: 19,339
    Sky Movies has renamed a channel in Cruise's honor. Says a lot about his star power. I don't recall Sky doing this for anyone else.

    Its only a pop-up channel,its lasts about 2 weeks and then another one starts.

    They have done it with Tom Hanks and other stars,they also do it by subject such as : aliens,monsters,Oscar winners,robots,Pixar etc.

    You can record some good stuff on there,films you may have missed.
  • Posts: 669
    Zekidk wrote: »
    Turns out the Norway scenes don t take place in Norway in the movie, but in India.

    Likewise with the scenes shot in New Zealand? He is wearing the same clothes.

    My understanding is that New Zealand doubles for Kashmir in the film.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Zekidk wrote: »
    Turns out the Norway scenes don t take place in Norway in the movie, but in India.

    Likewise with the scenes shot in New Zealand? He is wearing the same clothes.

    My understanding is that New Zealand doubles for Kashmir in the film.

    And so does Norway.
  • Posts: 12,837
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Sky Movies has renamed a channel in Cruise's honor. Says a lot about his star power. I don't recall Sky doing this for anyone else.

    Its only a pop-up channel,its lasts about 2 weeks and then another one starts.

    They have done it with Tom Hanks and other stars,they also do it by subject such as : aliens,monsters,Oscar winners,robots,Pixar etc.

    You can record some good stuff on there,films you may have missed.

    There was a Bond one when SF came out as well. That was nice. Just being able to easily stick a bit of a random Bond film on any time.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    They had a great advert for the Bond channel, all the Bonds in one car chase.
Sign In or Register to comment.