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That's what should have been done in the beginning. No one has the right to speak to anyone in this manner; if reports are true, it was two crew members standing in close proximity to each other around a monitor.
Two.
Not an entire crew of hundreds.
Two people.
So his rant was certainly exaggerated and uncalled for.
As I said before, the offending parties should have been taken aside privately, and behind closed doors. To further reinforce safety protocols a message to all crew should have been sent reminding them of the rules and; if anyone should break them, they will be released from the set.
No, Cruise had no right to curse out and admonish, nor threaten anyone. And it looks like someone from Paramount has stepped in and done the correct, adult thing and ordered everyone to an early Holiday Break.
Are you not criticising Cruise for exactly that, though?
I have massive reservations about Cruise's beliefs, most reasonably minded people do. And I'm sure if I met him we'd have absolutely no common ground whatsoever.
But I don't just divide peoples' actions into 'good' or 'bad' based on one value judgement I've made a few years ago about that person. I'm looking at what he's doing here, what he's actually saying right now. Saying that his religion 'probably' puts Patel to shame is vague, wispy stuff, and nothing to do with this incident.
I don't like shouting at people either, but these are all big boys, they're not children; and when you've got to the point that these people are risking hundreds of millions of dollars, thousands of peoples' jobs, huge amounts of cash out of Cruise's actual pocket, and actual personal safety, I think a bit of a dressing down isn't wildly out of perspective. Do you think they should be talked to nicely? How many times? Just fired straight away? Is that nicer than giving them a stern warning? Would they be more thankful to lose their jobs rather than given another chance?
I worked on building sites when I was out of University and heard much worse even though there were millions of pounds at stake there, and this movie is a much higher pressure place, many times magnified with COVID going on.
This is pure invention. You're letting your imagination show you what you want to see.
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I'm sorry when someone who clearly doesn't even believe in the virus gets so Biblically self righteous as Cruise does here, you are damn right I have a problem.
People are saluting a man who doesn't even have any real convictions in what he is saying and like @peter said this was if reports are to be believed, two members of the crew, not all of them.
Instead Tom took it upon himself to display his ego in the most OTT manner.
As for invention, take some time to read the below. You are obviously one of those people that chooses to separate the man's beliefs from the actor/artist and to a degree I understand that but Cruise isn't just involved in some slightly questionable stuff, these things are horrific.
Kevin Spacey has no career and rightly so but Cruise can continue to perpetuate this fake nice guy persona and no one points it out. Cruise in my eyes is as bad as Spacey and in some cases worse.
I really hope he can't come back from this because the man is a monster and this sect he is a part of are as sinister as cults get, religion is what they say they are, well an extreme one at that, one that manages to fly under radar due to their wealth and power.
The only pure invention going on here is the rubbish that Hubbard peddled to some gullible types that blew up into a hugely successful but dangerously sinister organisation.
https://tonyortega.org/2020/12/16/leah-remini-on-tom-cruises-covid-rant-in-its-scientology-context/
Frightening to say the least, and people who get out of this cult are working against the Scientology machine to peel back what actually goes on on the inside. It’s based on degradation, abuse and submitting to the higher agents. There is clearly psychological and sexual abuse.
This outburst of Tom’s, calling ppl “mother****ers” and threatening jobs (listen to the three minute rant if you can: he says if he catches person x that could mean that he could fire not only person x, but person y too); it’s just an extension of his nastiness and the nastiness and behaviour of his cult.
Once again two ppl were caught in close proximity as they watched a scene on a monitor. This rant was uncalled for. The two offending parties should have been hauled into the office, behind closed doors. A reminder memo to the crew that they will be dismissed on sight if they broke health and safety. It should have been as simple as that. You’re dealing with adults and 98% of them were abiding (so why were they cursed out and threatened?).
Five ppl walked away from this job (in a year where they likely can’t afford to), and if what I hear is true: they have lodged their complaints with their union (great!).
This wasn’t the first blow up on this set and things were very heated in the last few weeks.
I’m happy Paramount finally stepped in to shutter the set early. But now they will have to deal with grievances and fall out. Behind the scenes this is far from over.
I don't like his religion, but as I said, I'm not operating on a level of judging a person in a binary good/bad way based on something else: I'm talking about this one issue. You've ignored most of my post about the specifics of what's on the line here for everyone involved.
The original reports said it was two crew members in this incidence, yes. It doesn't seem likely to me that someone would explode like this on the first incidence though.
Where has he said publicly that he doesn't believe in the virus?
Even if that were true, and I haven't seen anything to say that it is, he will still be acting under the pressure of knowing that the whole thing could be shut down at any point and many many people would lose their jobs, even if he didn't think their lives could be at risk too. That is still a lot of pressure, and it isn't a fake, made-up situation which he doesn't believe in.
You accuse him having a huge ego, but is he telling untruths to sell it that he's an integral part of the film happening? Is he not the producer and the star?
I know Cruise is a strange man, I know stuff like his reported falling out with Spielberg where his Scientology beliefs apparently really were to blame in that circumstance; but I also know what's at stake here and can understand why those pressures would require the importance of the situation to be hammered into everybody.
I'm aware of Scientology, but I was talking about how you're inventing your own picture of what was happening in that clip. You know his beliefs on this virus, you know what he was feeling when he was saying all that of stuff and how he was loving it, and how his convictions are totally fake.
Maybe it was all a massive act, I don't know, but I don't have any evidence to say that it is.
For all we know the people he was shouting at might be Scientologists too, so that would have to make you pretty conflicted of who was on the right, if all Scientologists are wrong in everything they do ;)
It's also not lost on me how your user name and experience plays into this scenario on the board.
And this is why I've always been an admirer of his. He works hard and tries to make projects as good as they can be and he is always watchable. There seems to be a lot of pride involved.
Not every artist can be universally loved for his work and his personal life like Tom Hanks or Roger Moore. If so, your choices will become pretty limited.
It's worse than that @peter they don't even leave children out of it- https://scientologymoneyproject.com/2020/02/14/scientology-goes-there-argues-child-molestation-is-a-religious-contract-issue-subject-to-binding-arbitration/
No amount of entertainment tom brings could make up the fact that he is an horrible person, anyone who did a bit of reading on scientology knows this. This is why i never watch his film's in theatres, i don't like to support a man who is involve in a cult for harming little children, after i showed these facts to few of my friends, even they have boycotted his films a long time ago, sadly some still watch it in theatres.
They can square it with their consciences one day.
As long as they get to see Tom take it to the edge why bother, keep financing some monster its OK.
Craig gets worse on here for his slit wrists comment and his supposed non commitment to the role.
I hear you @Resurrection ... I’m just a writer, but way bigger fish than me have known about this man’s on set antics for a couple of decades. Stories have floated from film set to film set for many years.
It’s a shame, he almost got out in and around the time he made EYES WIDE SHUT. But, he was roped back in. And in the couple decades since then, his narcissistic personality has only grown. This outburst was recorded, but it’s not the first blow up he’s had on set. He’s got a nasty little temper.
"Universally" doesn t apply to those, either.
Yeah. I like Kraemer's score as well and wanted his return as well. It has a mysterious feel and even makes Solomon Lane and the Syndicate more sinister. Balfe's score is really good too. Just that Kraemer's score is very thriller-like.....parts of the score might even work in a Alfred Hitchcock film.
For what? Being upset? No. I just don't agree with how he handles it. In my opinion, yes, even concerning something this serious, a screaming tirade is incredibly childish. You can tell these people what they need to hear (i.e. How they are costing jobs and he will fire them if this is repeated) in a calm and professional manner.
I can't say that I'm offended by his behavior, though, not sure where you got that from.
It's very lush and atmospheric, and even the more rhythmic aspects of the score (which are often dull in many other scores in the action genre) are very cleverly done and always interesting. I love that the romantic theme for Ethan and Ilsa comes from Turandot.
Yeah. That's great too. Love that as well. The whole score is really good, and just as interesting as the film itself.
I think it might be the best score of the series, but thinking on it - they've been very lucky with the composers that they have had on these films. Not a bad outing amongst them, musically.
Not bad at all. It's that good. The franchise have luckily, had very good composers. Although, I do struggle with Danny Elfman's score for the first film. I only like his rendition of Lalo Schifrin's Mission Impossible theme. I think it was a joy to have Adam Clayton and Larry Mullen Jr. of U2 close the film with their excellent rendition of the theme, because the rest of Elfman's score wasn't that great or memorable enough.
Yes I enjoy his films. But if there isn’t another M:I film I wouldn’t bat an eyelid. It’s just a movie. Lots else going on in life besides movies.
We have yet to see NTTD with all these delays. But quite honestly I don’t even think about the film anymore. Honestly if I never got to see it at this point I don’t even really care. It’s just movies. We’re not curing cancer here.
Elfman's stuff has grown on me a lot more over time. There are portions of it that don't do much for me but there are a few cues where he absolutely knocks it out of the park.
Agreed on Clayton and Mullen Jnr's rendition of the theme - it's awesome.
Yeah. Cool.
Just saw the set photos from Rome... Damn, she is stunning. I wish she had a role in a Bond film.