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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I'm not sure what their policy will be in relation to Top Gun: would they wait for that to pass first? Not sure. Are they the same studio?
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    We're nearly five months out from The Matrix 4 and we haven't seen any official images, a trailer, not even a title reveal.

    Oh wow I didn't realise that- I had no idea they've even shot it.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    mtm wrote: »
    I'm not sure what their policy will be in relation to Top Gun: would they wait for that to pass first? Not sure. Are they the same studio?
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    We're nearly five months out from The Matrix 4 and we haven't seen any official images, a trailer, not even a title reveal.

    Oh wow I didn't realise that- I had no idea they've even shot it.

    Indeed, they finished filming long ago. I know the post-production will take ages but figured we would've seen something by now, at least.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I'm not sure what their policy will be in relation to Top Gun: would they wait for that to pass first? Not sure. Are they the same studio?
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    We're nearly five months out from The Matrix 4 and we haven't seen any official images, a trailer, not even a title reveal.

    Oh wow I didn't realise that- I had no idea they've even shot it.

    Indeed, they finished filming long ago. I know the post-production will take ages but figured we would've seen something by now, at least.

    Matrix or the Wachowski sisters aren’t as big of pop culture as Tom Cruise or Mission Impossible. Plus the hype machine is low on Matrix 4 it seems.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I'm not sure what their policy will be in relation to Top Gun: would they wait for that to pass first? Not sure. Are they the same studio?
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    We're nearly five months out from The Matrix 4 and we haven't seen any official images, a trailer, not even a title reveal.

    Oh wow I didn't realise that- I had no idea they've even shot it.

    Indeed, they finished filming long ago. I know the post-production will take ages but figured we would've seen something by now, at least.

    Matrix or the Wachowski sisters aren’t as big of pop culture as Tom Cruise or Mission Impossible. Plus the hype machine is low on Matrix 4 it seems.

    I don't think anyone was making that comparison. It's still going to be a huge release, I would've thought we would have seen something from it by now. The hype machine is low because there's no hype yet - nothing exists to be hyped over, aside from the idea of a new installment coming. Personally, I'm very excited.
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    mtm wrote: »
    I'm not sure what their policy will be in relation to Top Gun: would they wait for that to pass first? Not sure. Are they the same studio?

    Paramount handles the MI series and did the original Top Gun, so I'm guessing they'd go for it as well. The cinemas I go to play trailers from various studios, not just the ones whose film is playing in that venue.

    Any reason why an MI trailer wouldn't play in front of NTTD? Same genre and all.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I'm not sure what their policy will be in relation to Top Gun: would they wait for that to pass first? Not sure. Are they the same studio?
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    We're nearly five months out from The Matrix 4 and we haven't seen any official images, a trailer, not even a title reveal.

    Oh wow I didn't realise that- I had no idea they've even shot it.

    Indeed, they finished filming long ago. I know the post-production will take ages but figured we would've seen something by now, at least.

    Matrix or the Wachowski sisters aren’t as big of pop culture as Tom Cruise or Mission Impossible. Plus the hype machine is low on Matrix 4 it seems.

    I don't think anyone was making that comparison. It's still going to be a huge release, I would've thought we would have seen something from it by now. The hype machine is low because there's no hype yet - nothing exists to be hyped over, aside from the idea of a new installment coming. Personally, I'm very excited.

    Maybe because of all the films getting pushed back recently they played it safe and didn't start the hype in case its release was postponed?
    BT3366 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I'm not sure what their policy will be in relation to Top Gun: would they wait for that to pass first? Not sure. Are they the same studio?

    Paramount handles the MI series and did the original Top Gun, so I'm guessing they'd go for it as well. The cinemas I go to play trailers from various studios, not just the ones whose film is playing in that venue.

    Yeah I'm just thinking they might want their first big Cruise movie to pass before they start hyping the next one.
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    It would be the perfect cross-promotion. You have to figure some of the original fans of Top Gun may be making a rare venture into the cinema to see the new one, so why not hook them with the new MI to at least make them aware? Besides, studios often tease their summer blockbusters with holiday releases.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @mtm, that's totally possible, probably the smartest decision, honestly. You never know these days.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    BT3366 wrote: »
    It would be the perfect cross-promotion. You have to figure some of the original fans of Top Gun may be making a rare venture into the cinema to see the new one, so why not hook them with the new MI to at least make them aware? Besides, studios often tease their summer blockbusters with holiday releases.

    Oh yeah, they may promote it on the release of Top Gun, but I'm saying they might not promote MI before it comes out, to stop confusion or disappointment or a feeling of loads of Cruise movies coming out or whatever.
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @mtm, that's totally possible, probably the smartest decision, honestly. You never know these days.

    I'm a bit out of the loop in terms of movie promotion anyway these days, but I feel like that's been happening this year- I had no idea Black Widow was coming out, for example. I don't know if the hype hadn't started as big as usually or I just missed it! :)
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    A teaser trailer attached to Top Gun Maverick sounds like a good idea. It'd be like 7 to 8 months till MI7, is that too soon for a trailer?
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    A teaser trailer attached to Top Gun Maverick sounds like a good idea. It'd be like 7 to 8 months till MI7, is that too soon for a trailer?

    i still cant believe we dont know the title for this one maybe they are going back to numbers?
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    Wachowski sisters, LOL!!
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    I know this has probably been asked before but are 7 & 8 going to be the final films of the series?
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    fjdinardo wrote: »
    I know this has probably been asked before but are 7 & 8 going to be the final films of the series?

    nah maybe a recast but I see as long as it makes money it will continue
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I genuinely don't know if the series is viable beyond Cruise. It feels unique in that sense, maybe.

    They could definitely try and continue, but I don't see it going well beyond maybe one film.
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    I see Ilsa's sporting an eye patch. I wonder if it's part of a character she'll go undercover as or if she'll sustain an injury.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I genuinely don't know if the series is viable beyond Cruise. It feels unique in that sense, maybe.

    They could definitely try and continue, but I don't see it going well beyond maybe one film.

    They could easily just bring it back as a TV series. I’d rather see that, it would be a welcome change and back to basics from the films having become Cruise’s midlife crisis outlet.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I genuinely don't know if the series is viable beyond Cruise. It feels unique in that sense, maybe.

    They could definitely try and continue, but I don't see it going well beyond maybe one film.

    They could easily just bring it back as a TV series. I’d rather see that, it would be a welcome change and back to basics from the films having become Cruise’s midlife crisis outlet.

    The thing is, the brand name is now synonymous with Cruise's work. I don't know if a TV series would survive long either, considering a huge chunk of the modern audience only know the films.

    I'd be game for it though, obviously!
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I feel Cruise’s importance is overestimated, but that’s just me.

    A nice touch would be to have the new lead listen to a new recording of the mission briefing, but it’s by Tom Cruise’s voice (whether it’s Ethan Hunt or not is up to the viewer). In fact, with all the money streaming services throw at shows these days, they might as well assemble the cast of big names.

    For a streaming series I always thought what they could do is make each mission a multi-part plot. Three episodes max. The first would set up the mission, the second is the wrench being thrown that complicates things for the team, and the third is the finale. This could also allow the casting to rotate, so not everyone has to come back for another mission consecutively. Ryan Gosling leads one mission, but then Rebecca Ferguson leads the next.
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  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Sounds great. Vanessa Kirby has a really nice voice, I've never took much notice before
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    Jordo007 wrote: »

    Sounds great. Vanessa Kirby has a really nice voice, I've never took much notice before

    I first became aware of Vanessa Kirby in The Crown on Netflix and also seen her recently in Hobbs and Shaw, very likable lady.
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    I feel Cruise’s importance is overestimated, but that’s just me.

    A nice touch would be to have the new lead listen to a new recording of the mission briefing, but it’s by Tom Cruise’s voice (whether it’s Ethan Hunt or not is up to the viewer). In fact, with all the money streaming services throw at shows these days, they might as well assemble the cast of big names.

    For a streaming series I always thought what they could do is make each mission a multi-part plot. Three episodes max. The first would set up the mission, the second is the wrench being thrown that complicates things for the team, and the third is the finale. This could also allow the casting to rotate, so not everyone has to come back for another mission consecutively. Ryan Gosling leads one mission, but then Rebecca Ferguson leads the next.
    Great suggestion. I'd be interested. It would have the advantage of a brand name and allow it to breathe and not place so much on the stunts and money shots and present what made the show work initially -- tightly plotted suspense and an emphasis on the team.

    So I would disagree people only identify with this being a movie series and associated solely with Cruise.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    We shall see once he bows out from the role, I guess. I wasn't doubting the potential quality of a series (I'm sure it would be and I would watch it), moreso the appetite for audience engagement with it. If there were a big A-list star (or stars) in the leads then maybe, but there likely won't be. I don't see too many established actors wanting to jump into the hotseat after whatever lunacy Cruise comes up with in 7 & 8.

    On that......I would confidently stand behind the claim that 99% of people these days identify the film series as the "one where Tom Cruise does an act of death defying stuntwork" and that the television show is an afterthought for most of them. Jim Phelps is the villain from the first film, as far as they're concerned.

    Whether that's right or wrong is another story, but it's natural enough considering he's been at it for nearly three decades.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
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    Bassett Out Of “Mission: Impossible 7”

    https://www.darkhorizons.com/bassett-out-of-mission-impossible-7/
    Sadly Angela Bassett’s CIA director character Erika Sloane, who first appeared in “Mission: Impossible – Fallout” a few years ago, will NOT be returning for the upcoming seventh film.

    The actress had a small but crucial role in the sixth film, appearing in a handful of scenes that help set up the story. It was planned she would return to make a brief appearance again in the next film which once again is being directed by Christopher McQuarrie.

    However this week, whilst out doing promotional rounds for “Gunpowder Milkshake,” the actress tells Collider that the pandemic disrupted plans for her return:

    “I can’t tease anything about Mission: Impossible 7 except that, well, COVID took me out, literally. Or kept me out, how about that? So that’s all I know about that, but maybe I’ll be able to tease 8 when that comes along.”
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    We shall see once he bows out from the role, I guess. I wasn't doubting the potential quality of a series (I'm sure it would be and I would watch it), moreso the appetite for audience engagement with it. If there were a big A-list star (or stars) in the leads then maybe, but there likely won't be. I don't see too many established actors wanting to jump into the hotseat after whatever lunacy Cruise comes up with in 7 & 8.

    On that......I would confidently stand behind the claim that 99% of people these days identify the film series as the "one where Tom Cruise does an act of death defying stuntwork" and that the television show is an afterthought for most of them. Jim Phelps is the villain from the first film, as far as they're concerned.

    Whether that's right or wrong is another story, but it's natural enough considering he's been at it for nearly three decades.

    I'd be very surprised if audience members remembered the name of Voight's MI film villain, or any of the others for that matter. They're likely more lasered in on whatever lunacy Cruise was engaged in. There are probably a few people still POd they made Phelps the villain. It was big entertainment news 25 years ago when the first MI was released and turned a lot of people off, especially the original show cast. Didn't bother me really as I enjoyed the ride the film took me on. The worst part was almost every subsequent MI film had something to do with a traitor.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    It's interesting how the movies have evolved.

    Most interesting period was when Cruise's star power fell during the late 2000s. M:I-3 under-performed (and remains the lowest grossing of the series). LIONS FOR LAMBS, VALKYRIE, and KNIGHT AND DAY had lukewarm reactions and relatively low box office turnouts. I remember thinking that was it for him and that he needed to change gears in his career. And then GHOST PROTOCOL was around the corner and Jeremy Renner joined the cast, which at the time felt like they were setting him up to take over from Cruise because he seemed to be on the rise. In retrospect, if Cruise had to leave at some point in the series, GHOST PROTOCOL would have been a very good exit for him. But given that film became the highest grossing film of his career at the time, it's no surprise he decided to hold onto the franchise a little longer. Probably wise, because none of his non-MI films have really set the world on fire.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I've got to say I'm glad Cruise hasn't left, the last two MI films have been my favourite and honestly I was glad that Renner wasn't in the last one. He's okay as an but you don't need Hunt and Brandt. His character is solely there to tell the regulars, and we the audience, that this mission is impossible, up the stakes and create conflict
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    It’s telling they gave him Cruise’s signature stunt in GHOST PROTOCOL where he has to drop down, but with magnets instead of wires. But then in ROGUE NATION he’s just kinda there to talk to Baldwin and tag along.
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    It’s telling they gave him Cruise’s signature stunt in GHOST PROTOCOL where he has to drop down, but with magnets instead of wires. But then in ROGUE NATION he’s just kinda there to talk to Baldwin and tag along.

    Well, I really liked Brandt in GP and RN. For me he was a great agent in Ethan team.
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