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  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    Samuel001 wrote: »
    Samuel001 wrote: »
    These films seem to take one year. If it finished shooting in February 23 they cannot complete post production in 5 months - again it takes longer.
    They can. Filming of M:I 5 for example wrapped in March 2015 and the movie was released in July 2015.

    You're right and fair point but I'm wondering if that was then and this is now.

    These one year shoots must be tough and as much as I can't see Cruise doing them when he's 80, part of me wouldn't be surprised to see anything up to film 12. Who the hell knows at this point, I'm not counting anything out.

    I could see Cruise taking more of a Phelps angle in 10 11 and 12, in the field with the team, calling the shots, but not the exact center of the action all the time anymore somehow. He's always the guy waiting around the corner the team is chasing the bad guy into, etc. One move ahead, is how they need to start positioning him.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Maybe he can do some senior stunts. Such as a walking chair down an upward escalator.
  • I thought the back-to-back 7 & 8 were always intended to be the big finale for both McQ and Cruise? I don't have a source so I apologize if I'm misremembering, but I could have sworn that was their outlook going into this project.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I might be wrong but I don't think that's something which has been said officially..?
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Yeah, I think that was something that was just projected on to it once people heard about the ambitious shooting schedule.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited February 2022 Posts: 1,672
    Cruise always keeps Mission to bounce off of. He did War of the Worlds, then MI:III, then Valkyrie, then Ghost Protocol, then Reacher and Edge of Tomorrow, back to MI:V, then Reacher and Mummy, then back to MI:VI, and now it's over to Top Gun before coming back for 7&8.

    I think based on this, the biggest indicator for whether Cruise does more Mission movies is ironically what other projects he picks after 8 is released. If he does another Maverick movie, I think we'll get a MI:9. Basically, if he keeps doing action movies, he's going to keep making Mission movies, too.

    Maybe if 7&8 don't already do this, he will get a young new director and writers for MI:9 to bring them up on the franchise and introduce or establish, perhaps a woman? or someone to take over (Ilsa?) like they almost tried to with Brandt, and they'll do 10 with maybe a new crew and Cruise in a producer/side-lead acting role for a couple movies after that.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited February 2022 Posts: 4,693
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Cruise always keeps Mission to bounce off of. He did War of the Worlds, then MI:III, then Valkyrie, then Ghost Protocol, then Reacher and Edge of Tomorrow, back to MI:V, then Reacher and Mummy, then back to MI:VI, and now it's over to Top Gun before coming back for 7&8.

    I think based on this, the biggest indicator for whether Cruise does more Mission movies is ironically what other projects he picks after 8 is released. If he does another Maverick movie, I think we'll get a MI:9. Basically, if he keeps doing action movies, he's going to keep making Mission movies, too.

    Maybe if 7&8 don't already do this, he will get a young new director and writers for MI:9 to bring them up on the franchise and introduce or establish, perhaps a woman? or someone to take over (Ilsa?) like they almost tried to with Brandt, and they'll do 10 with maybe a new crew and Cruise in a producer/side-lead acting role for a couple movies after that.

    It’s Tom Cruise’s mission should he choose to accept it.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Cruise always keeps Mission to bounce off of. He did War of the Worlds, then MI:III, then Valkyrie, then Ghost Protocol, then Reacher and Edge of Tomorrow, back to MI:V, then Reacher and Mummy, then back to MI:VI, and now it's over to Top Gun before coming back for 7&8.

    I think based on this, the biggest indicator for whether Cruise does more Mission movies is ironically what other projects he picks after 8 is released. If he does another Maverick movie, I think we'll get a MI:9. Basically, if he keeps doing action movies, he's going to keep making Mission movies, too.

    Maybe if 7&8 don't already do this, he will get a young new director and writers for MI:9 to bring them up on the franchise and introduce or establish, perhaps a woman? or someone to take over (Ilsa?) like they almost tried to with Brandt, and they'll do 10 with maybe a new crew and Cruise in a producer/side-lead acting role for a couple movies after that.

    It’s Tom Cruise’s mission if he chooses to accept it.

    I'm trying to think of a good career map comparison for Cruise to follow in his late career, and the best I can think of is John Wayne. And he kept making Westerns right up until the end!
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited February 2022 Posts: 4,343
    After M:I-8 Cruise wants to shoot a film in space with Doug Liman. Obviously it won’t be entirely shot in space. Liman and McQ are penning the script.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I'd love to see Cruise go back to doing a straight drama or something. Something akin to what Downey Jnr. did with The Judge between Iron Man films. It'd be nice to see Cruise play a lawyer type again, opposite a seasoned actor.
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    At the end have him turn out to be the Criminal Mastermind
    I'd love to see Cruise go back to doing a straight drama or something. Something akin to what Downey Jnr. did with The Judge between Iron Man films. It'd be nice to see Cruise play a lawyer type again, opposite a seasoned actor.

    Sounds spicy ! ...cuz...y'know..."seasoned actor"...I'll just be...moving along...
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Jokes, jokes, jokes. We love jokes!
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I wonder what the link between 7 and 8 will be? A character death maybe?
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited February 2022 Posts: 4,537
    Since i have seen Fallout, i expect some kind of Goldeneye/Batman Returns thing. Something to do with return to the the place where Ethun
    meet hit ex girlfriend and her new boyfriend.
    . So yes
    Superman
    Returns :-B
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I wonder what the link between 7 and 8 will be? A character death maybe?

    I know they were wanting to kill off a major character during the opening of Fallout so I'd be surprised if the entire M:I team survives both of these upcoming installments unscathed.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I wonder what the link between 7 and 8 will be? A character death maybe?

    I know they were wanting to kill off a major character during the opening of Fallout so I'd be surprised if the entire M:I team survives both of these upcoming installments unscathed.

    I don't want a Benji sacrifice scene and I'd guess that's what we're getting
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I wonder what the link between 7 and 8 will be? A character death maybe?

    I know they were wanting to kill off a major character during the opening of Fallout so I'd be surprised if the entire M:I team survives both of these upcoming installments unscathed.

    I don't want a Benji sacrifice scene and I'd guess that's what we're getting

    That'd be my assumption too. I think they wanted to kill off Renner's Brandt in the opening of the last one but he wasn't available for filming, so I'd imagine they'll take that route with someone else this time around and my bet would be Benji, since he's a fan favorite.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited February 2022 Posts: 5,970
    I think the death that would hit the most to fans, and just be emotional, would be Stickell (Ving Rhames), but I don't think they'd do that for many reasons.

    To add, I'm very intrigued by Hayley Atwell and especially Pom Klementieff's roles. I hope one of them is an antagonist because with them and also Rebecca Ferguson and Vanessa Kirby, I hope they're not all just gonna be helping Ethan. Would be nice to get some variety. Based on set photos, I think Pom is the most likely villain, but Atwell definitely has the potential to be a main villain if they wanted.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    I think the death that would hit the most to fans, and just be emotional, would be Stickell (Ving Rhames), but I don't think they'd do that for many reasons.

    To add, I'm very intrigued by Hayley Atwell and especially Pom Klementieff's roles. I hope one of them is an antagonist because with them and also Rebecca Ferguson and Vanessa Kirby, I hope they're not all just gonna be helping Ethan. Would be nice to get some variety. Based on set photos, I think Pom is the most likely villain, but Atwell definitely has the potential to be a main villain if they wanted.

    Hayley Atwell is a missed opportunity for Bond, but there is still hope.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    I think the death that would hit the most to fans, and just be emotional, would be Stickell (Ving Rhames), but I don't think they'd do that for many reasons.

    To add, I'm very intrigued by Hayley Atwell and especially Pom Klementieff's roles. I hope one of them is an antagonist because with them and also Rebecca Ferguson and Vanessa Kirby, I hope they're not all just gonna be helping Ethan. Would be nice to get some variety. Based on set photos, I think Pom is the most likely villain, but Atwell definitely has the potential to be a main villain if they wanted.

    That's the one that would impact me the most, no question. He's been with Ethan throughout the entire series almost and has always been the most fiercely loyal character.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah I could see Luther getting offed. He's does seem perhaps a little old for it now. I guess we'll have to see if he's spotted filming for 8.
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    I'd love to see Cruise go back to doing a straight drama or something. Something akin to what Downey Jnr. did with The Judge between Iron Man films. It'd be nice to see Cruise play a lawyer type again, opposite a seasoned actor.

    I would too. People just now think of him as an action star but consider his earlier career decisions. He sought out interesting roles, worked with some of the best older actors - Paul Newman, Robert Duvall, Gene Hackman, Jack Nicholson - and worked with some of the best directors - Kubrick, Coppola, Scorsese, Howard, Stone to name a few. I'd like that guy to return. I know he wants to do action and that feeling to want to stay young, but he's also a talented actor on top of that. Is there no desire to challenge himself as an actor and not just the physical side of it anymore? If so, it's a sad loss.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited February 2022 Posts: 1,672
    BT3366 wrote: »
    I'd love to see Cruise go back to doing a straight drama or something. Something akin to what Downey Jnr. did with The Judge between Iron Man films. It'd be nice to see Cruise play a lawyer type again, opposite a seasoned actor.

    I would too. People just now think of him as an action star but consider his earlier career decisions. He sought out interesting roles, worked with some of the best older actors - Paul Newman, Robert Duvall, Gene Hackman, Jack Nicholson - and worked with some of the best directors - Kubrick, Coppola, Scorsese, Howard, Stone to name a few. I'd like that guy to return. I know he wants to do action and that feeling to want to stay young, but he's also a talented actor on top of that. Is there no desire to challenge himself as an actor and not just the physical side of it anymore? If so, it's a sad loss.

    I think some point in his career he realized he was most bankable as an action blockbuster star. But I do believe he has always planned to go back to more drama work when he *has* to later in life, and I think his thinking rn is "not yet."

    I think it would have to be contrived for Luther to be offed. He's far from the most physical on the team, and I just don't see him being in any position to sacrifice himself and have it matter. Benji is much more physical and in the action, so more likely imo. They could have done Luther at the opening of Fallout when he was being held hostage so I don't think they'd go back to that so soon.
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    True, but how much money does the guy need? I think he also has more control over these productions and that is also likely part of the appeal for him. Back in the day he used to squeeze other projects in between films and with MI8 delayed, he could do something else. An example of this was waiting for Rain Man to get underway he was able to do Cocktail. Though some would think that was not a wise decision, although I find it a guilty pleasure.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    BT3366 wrote: »
    True, but how much money does the guy need? I think he also has more control over these productions and that is also likely part of the appeal for him. Back in the day he used to squeeze other projects in between films and with MI8 delayed, he could do something else. An example of this was waiting for Rain Man to get underway he was able to do Cocktail. Though some would think that was not a wise decision, although I find it a guilty pleasure.

    Well, that budget-level movie is rare these days. He did used to go to medium projects with name directors, but all the name directors now are either stuck in festivals or jump straight to franchises. There aren't many "smaller" roles for him any more, unless he wants to start producing them himself.
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    BT3366 wrote: »
    True, but how much money does the guy need? I think he also has more control over these productions and that is also likely part of the appeal for him. Back in the day he used to squeeze other projects in between films and with MI8 delayed, he could do something else. An example of this was waiting for Rain Man to get underway he was able to do Cocktail. Though some would think that was not a wise decision, although I find it a guilty pleasure.

    Well, that budget-level movie is rare these days. He did used to go to medium projects with name directors, but all the name directors now are either stuck in festivals or jump straight to franchises. There aren't many "smaller" roles for him any more, unless he wants to start producing them himself.
    You're correct, but the Netflix route is so popular I could see that as an option.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    It's clear that Cruise loves the thrill of shooting action movies and enjoys exciting audiences with his dangerous stunts even more. The last time he was doing pure dramas, they weren't met with high box office returns or raving reviews, i.e. Valkyrie and Lions for Lambs.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    It's clear that Cruise loves the thrill of shooting action movies and enjoys exciting audiences with his dangerous stunts even more. The last time he was doing pure dramas, they weren't met with high box office returns or raving reviews, i.e. Valkyrie and Lions for Lambs.

    I hope he learns how to take that love of excitement and channel it through future projects with new directors and actors, and maybe launch a few careers on his way out. That could be a way of continuing to deliver for audiences as a producer, even if he isn't at the center all the time anymore.
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    BT3366 wrote: »
    I'd love to see Cruise go back to doing a straight drama or something. Something akin to what Downey Jnr. did with The Judge between Iron Man films. It'd be nice to see Cruise play a lawyer type again, opposite a seasoned actor.

    I would too. People just now think of him as an action star but consider his earlier career decisions. He sought out interesting roles, worked with some of the best older actors - Paul Newman, Robert Duvall, Gene Hackman, Jack Nicholson - and worked with some of the best directors - Kubrick, Coppola, Scorsese, Howard, Stone to name a few. I'd like that guy to return. I know he wants to do action and that feeling to want to stay young, but he's also a talented actor on top of that. Is there no desire to challenge himself as an actor and not just the physical side of it anymore? If so, it's a sad loss.

    I think some point in his career he realized he was most bankable as an action blockbuster star. But I do believe he has always planned to go back to more drama work when he *has* to later in life, and I think his thinking rn is "not yet."

    I think it would have to be contrived for Luther to be offed. He's far from the most physical on the team, and I just don't see him being in any position to sacrifice himself and have it matter. Benji is much more physical and in the action, so more likely imo. They could have done Luther at the opening of Fallout when he was being held hostage so I don't think they'd go back to that so soon.

    The Fatality Rate in MI (ie, "MI: 1") was through the roof !
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    BT3366 wrote: »
    True, but how much money does the guy need?

    I think he does genuinely love movies and making them, and I can see the thrill in making M:I films: not just from doing the big stunts for himself but from creating some of the more incredibly effective set-pieces in movies. He's an unusual chap certainly, but I tend to believe his love for movies is genuine.
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