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The poster looks a little Looney Tunes. I don't like it. Doesn't seem to bring that darkness that someone in this thread said was missing from Ghost Protocol.
Well, the Mission Impossible franchise is a little Looney Tunes. In a good way.
I didn´t quite know what to think when I watched the teaser for the first time. Until the plane took off :-).
1. Noone really knows what they shot before and what after the leaks.
2. "They" talked openly about the ending being redone. They described it as something minor, but changing an ending doesn´t strike me as something so special for Hollywood, and what do you expect them to say anyhow? That there were serious problems? Even if there had been a major headache, it won´t be regarded as a problem at all as soon as the film starts making money.
I don't think reshooting an ending is minor, but I agree, it means nothing if the film makes loads of money which I'm sure it will. Making these films is such a big crap shoot. I'm amazed at how they keep trying to raise the bar. It must be like fighting a small war. The ones that do it well have copper tubing for nerves. But someone did note in one of the threads there are no original ideas left for these films, it's all about who reworks some already done concept bigger and hopefully better.
I agree @Gustav_Graves, Rebecca Ferguson seems to have a certain class to her which will lift this film. That's something MI has not had imho, which Bond always does (at least in the Craig era - post Halle & Denise).
They've moved this into the summer blockbuster section and I think they've got a killer movie here from the small bit we've been allowed to see. I think it will do the walking at the box office, including in China. My compliments to Cruise.
Mendes and co. are going to deliver, but it will be a good fight this time, unlike the MI3/CR fight that was one-sided to the extreme in favour of Bond.
I saw this ^ and my first reaction was...
WOW!
Trailer looks great, love to see the male MI team back from GP. And the action looks like it could top (no pun intended) Mi4.
Very much looking forward to this.
Don't worry. For me personally the James Bond franchise has become a bit more than just a very entertaining action franchise.
What I especially liked about movies like "Casino Royale" and "Skyfall" was the dialogue (an aspect of the screenplay, NOT being the story) and the amount of emotional depth the characters got (also a screenplay element). And on top of that, these Bond films were helped tremendously by wonderful (sometimes big name Oscar) actors.
All these things were not really that much present within the "Mission: Impossible"-franchise. Yes, the four previous films were a lot of fun. But one should ask him-/herself if these films have as much as discussion material afterwards as certain Bond films.
What I like so much about movies like "Casino Royale", "Skyfall" and even "Quantum Of Solace" is the amount of dissection and discussion we have. Especially "Skyfall". That movie is evoking so many questions and discussion topics.....which in my opinion is a quality in itself.
And although many disagree with me, I find the recent Bond films more "intelligent" from that perspective than the M:I-films. And looking at the box office figures there's clearly a market for such films ;-).
There is a healthy competition and there is competition. This situation is the latter.
Plus - another car chase? Really? I am sure, MI films don't waste their time with boring car chases.
Sorry for the rant.
How much is the budget for this film?
Well as hard as it is to believe GL, most of us have a life away from Bond and the forum.
:-O
So as awesome and wonderful OO7 is, I will be keeping my eye on other spy franchises, and off Bond's perfectness in nearly every way.
;)
Well, not sure, it has to do with having or not having a life, but I am not nearly as tolerant towards competition films as you or others.
But stating this in a fan forum doesn't mean, I gonna loose any sleep over it. But this is the place to make those statements, no?
I've enjoyed most of the Mission Impossible films. I see them as no threat to the Bond series. They're not comparable other than they're both spies. The MI films have become known for their impressive action set pieces, which for the most part have got better with age. If MI:5 opened around the same time as Spectre, then it would have an effect on the gross. But it opens in July.
A bigger threat to Bond will be Star Wars...but I'm not going to bypass that either. No way José.
I'm not worried about Star Wars making a big dent in Spectre's box office performance. In the US, Episode VII will open 6 weeks after Bond, and in the UK there will be a whopping 8 week gap between the two movie's release dates.
Having said that, I'm quite certain that MI will have both positive and negative effects on the eventual SP box office (although one cannot obviously quantify it). Positive because if it's good, it will continue to whet appetites for the big daddy of all spy franchises and the follow up to the biggest non-3D movie of 2012. Negative because, if the plots are somewhat similar, SP could provide anti-climactic when it does in fact open, especially because the public may really have had its fill by then of new and interesting spy movies. SP could even prove anticlimactic even if it's great just because expectations are so high among the general public post-SF, and nothing may satisfy them (the TDKR vs TDK problem or Bad vs Thriller problem).
In the end however, I'm not worried about competition. It's good for Bond & EON. It keeps everyone on their toes. As has been discussed before, The Dark Knight helped Bond improve, as did Bourne and Die Hard before it. In fact, so did the original MI, when it was released in 1996 (EDIT).
Tom Cruise is a very intense and capable actor, and he always gives it his best. I respect him for that, very much. However, he is no Daniel Craig. No matter how good MI is, I'm sure there are others among the general public, like myself, who will look forward to SP with baited breath just because DC is James Bond, and we know, like Cruise, that he too will give it his best. From past performances, his best is going to be very good indeed. Add Mendes into the mix and we will have a great movie with SP, regardless of eventual box office take, I'm sure of it.
Bring on these trailers, and let the competition begin!
Corrected. Thx.
I just don't fully understand your rant @Germanlady . I think those worries are a bit out of control. First of all, Sony/EON doesn't just spend $300 Million on a movie without knowing what it realistically can bring in globally. Also, looking at the action sequences that have been filmed so far for "SPECTRE", they seem to be quite a bit more elaborate than those in "Skyfall".....and even in "Rogue Nation". The airplane/ice chase in Austria, the -perhaps longest- car chase ever in Bond history in Italy. I honestly believe "SPECTRE" will outperform "Rogue Nation".
Then there's the publicity machine. In all honesty, "Rogue Nation" will do very well, but looking at how the publicity machine worked for "Rogue Nation" so far, I'm honestly slightly more worried for "Rogue Nation" than for "SPECTRE". It never helps to push the panic button when it comes to premiere dates (Bad planning? Scheduling? Paramount/Skydance can learn from EON/Sony/MGM here). Nor does it help to have publicity material at such a late stage, when "SPECTRE" has already two teaser posters out, a confirmed title as early as December 4th, lots and lots of crazy fans filming the shooting of "SPECTRE" in Austria, Italy and Mexico, a range of actors that most definitely outperforms those of "Rogue Nation", andddd a first teaser trailer this week that's basically regaining all publicity momentum that "Rogue Planet" is creating right now.
Simply put: "SPECTRE" will simply be bigger than "Rogue Nation". Not just money-wise, also production-wise (Have you seen the locations?? The amount of extras? How long they were filming the action sequences so far?) and quality-wise (Actors? Christoph Waltz? Dave Bautista? Sam Mendes? Complex characters? Dialogue?) And if it brings in "only" $900 Million worldwide, then it's by far not a failure. And even if it is a failure, then at least we fans have one damn fine Bond film to enjoy...to discuss about, THANKS to this insane production budget. That's how I see it. It's not that Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson spend $300 Million without a plan behind it. They want "SPECTRE" to seriously blow our minds.
Also, I honestly think that movies like "Kingsman The Secret Service", "MI: Rogue Nation" and "The Man From UNCLE", in a way serve as appetizers/teasers for what's basically coming down to the climax of "2015 The Year Of The Spy": Bond, James Bond 007 in "SPECTRE". By the way, my prediction of $1.2 Billion worldwide still stands.
I agree with everything you've said, and as I've said earlier, I think the marketing machine is a bit late for MI. Having said that, they still have time to roll out all the stops, and a great trailer today is the starting point. I'm already panting with anticipation.....It looks better than MI4: GP already and I see a bit of MI & MI2 in it which I really liked.
RE: the BO prediction for SP: I'm calling you out on this. $900M to $1BN for me. It will surpass MI5 but it will be a lot closer than MI4 vs SF
Trust me: 1, 2, 3 !! Meaning:
1) Star Wars
2) Avengers 2
3) SPECTRE
Re. the trailer - that stunt in the alley with the BMW and the bikes looks brilliant. Surprised we haven't seen much stuff like that from Rome. Seems like a straight-out pursuit in SP, with a few little flourishes. Hunt hanging on to the plain is already feeling like it might be the iconic visual moment of the film.
Well it's Sony's problem mostly, not even EON's or MGM's first. And it seems taken for granted they leave the Bond franchise after that. So we had Sony producers altering the story and so on on this one, removing one set here, asking to be nice for Mexico there, etc.. but it will have no straightforward impact on the next one. Even if this one does only 700M$, there will be studios wanting to jump on the Bond train for the next ones. Sony will be in the red, but others won't care.
I'm not sure, there's also the "bringing people back into theaters" aspect. You need that to go into the billion dollar territories, you're not just dealing with the regular moviegoers. Quality is always interesting for everyone in the end, IMO. If M:I5 turns to be full of CG that makes people laugh, then it could tell people that the days of the big action movies are over, and SPECTRE could have suffer from that. It seems it won't be the case at all : so, IMO, good news !