Mission: Impossible - films and tv series

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  • aaron819aaron819 Switzerland
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    A little clip:

  • RC7RC7
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    I love that car stunt with the bikes. If there isn't something equally brilliant in SP I'm going to put Mendes across my knee. With yoghurt and lemon juice.
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  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Thanks @dragonsky. Cruise is nuts. Crazy nuts. I do respect him for his dedication though.
  • RC7RC7
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    dragonsky wrote: »

    So he managed to do this and hang off a plane. Let's hope this doesn't get too much publicity because it pisses over Bond. I'm sure SP will kick its ass in other departments, but it does depress me that these kind of action set pieces were the reserve of Bond and now the pretenders are setting the benchmarks.
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    RC7 wrote: »
    I love that car stunt with the bikes. If there isn't something equally brilliant in SP I'm going to put Mendes across my knee. With yoghurt and lemon juice.

    You're funny :-P. You can also put me across your knee @RC7 :-P?
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    Incidentally, watching the train sequence from the first MI again the other day made me wonder how online fans would react in this day and age. It's fantastic up until it enters the tunnel, then it just gets silly. The CG looks a bit dodgy now and how would there be room in the tunnel for two trains AND a helicopter?

    I clearly remember the CG looking slightly dodgy when I watched it the first time in the cinema. It has I withstood time exemplary, unless it has been digitally polished for that youtube clip.
    I always thought it was at least partly a conscious decision to make it look slightly unrealistic, since De Palma was allegedly a huge Hitchcock fan and earlier on in M:I has things like the camera going through walls (where you clearly see it´s a stage set wall), as Hitch used to do sometimes.
    How there would be room for two trains and a helicopter? Oh come on, if there would be room where would the thrill be ;-)?


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    Haha, obviously the same "deliberately unrealistic" decision was made during the free-fall plane jump in GE.

    Also, it's funny how up until the tunnel Jean Reano looks like he's genuinely concentrating on piloting the helicopter. Once it enters the tunnel he's like "yeah whatever" :p
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Sorry but that MI tunnel clip was and still is amazing and I can't think of an action set piece tge Bond films have done to top that since the 80s. I agree with @RC7, Bond is being pissed all over by the competition. That's just not right.
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    It is an exciting sequence BUT it's better before they get into the tunnel IMO. That first shot of the helicopter in the tunnel makes me giggle.
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    That is why I wont be seeing another Bond in the cinema until Craig's replacement.

    Wow....
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    I'm damned if I do, and damned if I don't. If I don't, then I get people chastising me for judging the film on it's predecessors and what scant details I have come across. And if I do, then those same people will complain that I was going into the film with my mind already made up. Whatever option I chose, I will end up with a lot of agro off mostly Craig fans. So I might as well save myself £8 and not bother going.
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    Haha, obviously the same "deliberately unrealistic" decision was made during the free-fall plane jump in GE.
    Well, I wouldn´t expect that they accidentally stumbled on a scene defying the laws of physics.

    BAIN123 wrote: »
    Also, it's funny how up until the tunnel Jean Reano looks like he's genuinely concentrating on piloting the helicopter. Once it enters the tunnel he's like "yeah whatever" :p
    Adrenaline high ;-).

    BAIN123 wrote: »
    It is an exciting sequence BUT it's better before they get into the tunnel IMO. That first shot of the helicopter in the tunnel makes me giggle.
    That´s because you never flew a helicopter into a tunnel :P .

    I'm damned if I do, and damned if I don't. If I don't, then I get people chastising me for judging the film on it's predecessors and what scant details I have come across. And if I do, then those same people will complain that I was going into the film with my mind already made up. Whatever option I chose, I will end up with a lot of agro off mostly Craig fans. So I might as well save myself £8 and not bother going.
    I guess I can somewhat understand you, @Major. It´s very simple, really, for me. The films should convince the viewer as films. If they don´t do that for whatever reason, one shouldn´t waste his time watching them.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    I have never understood why Hunt, after hooking the cable, turns over and yells out. By all means give Phelps the chance to kick you over the side, why don't you. I guess it's one of those action movie moments we're not supposed to question. My favourite moment is still Hunt leaping off the Train onto the ski of the Helicopter followed by the M:I theme. It might be cheesy today, but come on, it's a 90's action thriller.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I realize it's CGI infested, but I love that train/helicopter bit in MI.

    It's a film that's grown on me. When I first saw it, I didn't enjoy it so much. As I've gotten older, I've come to appreciate it much more - DePalma did great work here and it's beautifully filmed. Love the wierd camera angles now.

    In a way, for me the original MI is somewhat like the old Connery Bonds. Did not like them so much when younger, but love them all now.
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    I have some fond memories of the first MI film.

    Having never seen the old tv series (for me Peter Graves will always be Captain Ouver from Airplane) I remember Barry Norman showing a brief clip of the train sequence at the start of his last BBC Film programme in 1996 before the summer break.

    I then saw it in the cinema a few weeks later and eventually got an "ex rental" copy from my local video shop before it officially came out to buy on VHS.

    I still have that video now.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I love the first M:I film. The train sequence is amazing for 1996.
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    I love the visual style of the first one. I have to watch it again. In the past I had problems watching it multiple times, because it felt like it lives from the audience not knowing the traitor. But it would be interesting to see how I react these days.
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    Murdock wrote: »
    I love the first M:I film. The train sequence is amazing for 1996.

    I think purely as a film "GoldenEye" trumps "Mission: Impossible 1" in every aspect. Not only that, but the entire CGI-train chase really didn't do it for me. It's like saying "Oooowh wow, 007 surfing an ice rock...that was awesome!"

    For me, the favourite M:I-film still is "Mission: Impossible 3", after that "Ghost Protocol". Though I have a feeling "Rogue Nation" is quite a darker take on the "M:I"-franchise.

  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    The MI train sequence is nowhere near the level of embarrassing absurdity that the DAD tidal surfing scene was.
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    The MI train sequence is nowhere near the level of embarrassing absurdity that the DAD tidal surfing scene was.

    No, but then I most certainly prefer the foot chase sequence in the London Underground in SF, the entire PTS of SF, the Miami chase sequence in CR or the parcours chase sequence in CR over....that train sequence in "M:I 1"
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    The MI train sequence is nowhere near the level of embarrassing absurdity that the DAD tidal surfing scene was.

    Did anyone ever suggest it was?

    I also think the train sequence is far more exciting than the dogfight/free fall in QOS.
  • RC7RC7
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    The MI train sequence is nowhere near the level of embarrassing absurdity that the DAD tidal surfing scene was.

    Did anyone ever suggest it was?

    Gustav, getting a little carried away.

    It's an awesome scene and still holds up. The stuff on top of the train in the build up is magnificent, even better than the Bond/Patrice fight IMO.
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    RC7 wrote: »
    BAIN123 wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    The MI train sequence is nowhere near the level of embarrassing absurdity that the DAD tidal surfing scene was.

    Did anyone ever suggest it was?

    Gustav, getting a little carried away.

    It's an awesome scene and still holds up. The stuff on top of the train in the build up is magnificent, even better than the Bond/Patrice fight IMO.

    Agreed. I love the build-up in particular because of the sheer speed. You can almost feel the force of the wind yourself.

    I bet John Glenn saw this and thought "damn I wish I'd been able to make my train sequence in OP that good" :p

    For me the main large-scale action sequences in modern Bond that come close in terms of pure thrills are:

    -The archive shootout/tank chase in GE
    -the free-running stuff in CR
    -the Miami airport chase
    -the courtroom shootout in SF
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
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    I bet John Glenn saw this and thought "damn I wish I'd been able to make my train sequence in OP that good" :p

    I think if he saw it he recognized how they did improve on OP's brilliant stunt work in the train sequence.

    While Mendes train sequence was somehow alright but at no point where you impressed.
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    I love the music in that train scene. The moment where he jumps onto the helicopter and we get the triumphant sounding brass which leads into the MI theme kicking in is great. Makes me annoyed that the composers seem scared to use the Bond theme anymore (except of course for the obligatory "Bond is back, origin story over" ending, which we've had three films in a row, followed by a rushed crappily designed gunbarrel that should have been at the start). I don't want subtle hints, I want the Bond theme to play during an action scene while he does something cool. Like the bankers office escape in TWINE, that was a great use of the Bond theme.

    I loved Skyfall but I thought the score was poor. I was disappointed Arnold wasn't back for SPECTRE.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Murdock wrote: »
    I love the first M:I film. The train sequence is amazing for 1996.

    I think purely as a film "GoldenEye" trumps "Mission: Impossible 1" in every aspect. Not only that, but the entire CGI-train chase really didn't do it for me. It's like saying "Oooowh wow, 007 surfing an ice rock...that was awesome!"

    Well considering GoldenEye is my favorite Bond movie, I would agree that GE trumps MI 1 but I'm not here to compare Bond vs. M:I. They are both my favorite films from either franchise.

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    Thanks to the "on this day" function on facebook I remembered this old gem:


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    Love the first MI movie, big fan of Depalma admittedly. Depalma was a master at building up a set piece. The train sequence stands up for me because its exhilarating, the music the action it draws you in.
  • ThomasCrown76ThomasCrown76 Augusta, ks
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    So was Hitchcock
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