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This is very true, at least since the70s. Before that, Bond set the standard for (mostly) all other franchises to follow.
Yeah mate you’ve got me, I’m anti-white. Part of the horde you were on about. I even went as far as marrying a white woman as part of my cover. And now we’re coming for you, look out.
Yeah I think pandering to fans is usually a recipe for disaster anyway, and I’m not even sure how you’d go about it with Bond fans, because it’s such a broad church of different people who want different things. Even now, in the detractor camp, you’ve got people who are annoyed for different reasons. Some hate NTTD for deviating from Fleming and want another CR. Others hate it because they’re sick of the Craig era’s heavier tone and want a return to Moore/Brosnan style fun. Both groups don’t like NTTD, but for different reasons, and both have quite different ideas of how to “fix” things next time.
At the end of the day they’ll never be able to please all of us, so I think they’re better off just blocking all that noise out and commiting to whatever vision they have.
Well, there are plenty of White antiwhites so what does that matter? I'm not White, I'm Hispanic (Mexican father), but care about Westernkind and its survival, for the entire world is harmed by antiwhitism.
You are also good at using logical fallacies in your posts, so there's that. You created a straw man when you implied I hated Nomi solely because of her race; not what I said at all, hence a straw man fallacy. In addition, attacking me about some imaginary bunker I don't have is an example of an ad hominem. Two in one post! Well done, sir.
For anyone that doesn't believe Craig's run is problematic for Western Civilization consider they have:
-White erased Felix Leiter
-White erased Moneypenny
-Implied the White erasure of the 007 position with the character of Nomi
Erasing a race from existence is immoral and thus I am against it happening. This series is massively popular across the world and these examples are harmful to the psychology of White people and causes White noir, depression, and a feeling of hopelessness for the future of their people.
In your eyes, when people of color move into your neighborhood and buy the home beside you that was once owned by a white person, is that also white erasing?
Yeah, these recent posts have been really troubling. “‘Straight white men as normal is bad’ is part of the anti-white narrative”, Jesus Christ… so we’re to say that straight and white is normal, and everything else is abnormal, lest we’re erasing the white race?
Truly insidious.
This is what I’m referring to in my previous post in case of any “that’s not what I said!” nonsense. Sorry for the DP.
If his posts weren't so troubling, I'd almost laugh at him calling the level-headed thelivingroyale sick!
Wait, you don’t have a bunker? Why not? It’s like you said before
“Whites are less than 10% of the world's population (and shrinking every day) and when the hordes of anti-whites come for you I hope you are prepared.“
Why aren’t you prepared yourself? I don’t think my fellow anti-whites will have taken kindly to you bravely revealing our evil plan on a James Bond forum.
Well you didn’t say it, no. Racists are usually smart enough not to nowadays. But even if you hadn’t decided the film was anti-white male garbage that deserves to fail and had killed the franchise as soon as you saw a black woman in the trailer, everything else you’ve posted has made it pretty obvious what sort of person you are.
Another straw man fallacy. Nice work.
Yep, projection.
"Don't fear the reaper."
Not at all and once again, this is a classic straw man fallacy. People can live wherever they wish. I am against all cultural erasure because it is immoral. Imagine erasing the character of Shaft by using an Asian man instead of a black man in the title role. It's wrong and it's wrong when it happens to White people.
"People of color" is an antiwhite meme pathogen that excludes all White people. Also, I will repeat, I AM NOT WHITE.
Well it’s word for word what you said, so unless you yourself are made of straw…
Agreed... Rigid political lines isn't very appealing to me. As soon as the hard line is drawn in the sand, say goodbye to individual thoughts and expressions, and hello to group-think.
The only time I enjoy teams is in sport.
This is what you said: " so we’re to say that straight and white is normal, and everything else is abnormal, " which is NOT what I said. Where did I state everything else is abnormal? Please show me.
What else could saying "straight and white is normal" possibly mean?
I'm not engaging in this any further.
In the meantime, anyone who wants to sneakily balance the line between not breaking rules while clearly sharing racist or homophobic thoughts that perhaps aren't blunt or obvious, we'll lose no sleep over instabanning you. This isn't a safe haven for such thoughts, as some seem to think, and we've instantly removed several loyal members in the past (even some with a high post count) for doing exactly that.
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Diet Mountain Dew?
I don't think the movie is the cause of the divide; I think the tone of some of the discussions is. And even more than that, the fact that certain arguments carry different weights for different people has a lot to do with it too. Then again, it's always been that way, I'm sure. ;)
It's what I call water. Just reminding everyone to stay hydrated.
I disagree with this assertion that they DIDN’T further the legend of James Bond. Whether he lived or died, his legendary status persists.
Wait, legendary statuses are often built on a hero ticking off all the boxes in the stereotypical journey, and death is often included. Death is usually the ultimate apotheosis, the immortalization of the hero by moving on.
Either way, I don't think it's true that the film didn't further the legend of Bond, for two reasons. A) There's no "legend" of Bond, in my opinion, there's the glamourous icon status. Bond isn't King Arthur, he's Mister Cool. Some Bond films do more to perpetuate the 'coolness' of Bond than others, but in the long run, he maintains a great deal of relevancy in today's pop culture. Several of my students (teenagers!) went to see NTTD and loved the film. At least from those few exchanges, I am encouraged to believe that it's not just us, old farts, who are still interested in Bond. Even today, during a lab session, I said, "Come on, guys, we have no time to lose!" A girl immediately smiled and said, "Or no time to DIE!"
B) Whatever the films do further, be it the "legend" of Bond or something else, I'm sure NTTD is far from a lost cause. The COVID Bond, the second highest-grossing (non-Chinese) film of the year, the one with Billie's song, the final one with Craig, ... I don't see in what way this film failed at furthering something status-wise, while the likes of TND, TWINE, DAD, ... didn't.
But now the causal film-goers think of him as deceased. Next Bond that comes out I bet a sizable chunk of them will go "What? A new movie? He died! This is stupid." and just not see the film...
Come on, Chris. Remember 2006. "Fans are shocked over ugliest Bond ever!" "No explosions in the new Bond film, says effects guy!" We were frightened. CR was dooooomed!
First trailer dropped...
... and one of the biggest Bonds ever happened.
Don't worry. Today is yesterday's news tomorrow. NTTD? Forgotten about that. Was that the one with the octopus? Anyway, the new trailer looks AWESOME! Let's watch.
We contemplate, discuss, gather and archive information... but most people don't care about the next Bond flick until... it happens. And then mum, dad and the kids grab the popcorn for the next 007. Because it's the "next" 007--who cares about the former 007? Cheer up, mate. ;)
I seriously doubt this.
But we’ll soon find out in the coming years.