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Skyfall hit a billion because of high ticket prices. TB is still the most successful Bond movie when adjusted for inflation. I'm not saying SF's gross wasn't an achievement, I'm just saying that, at a time when movies like Jurassic World, Furious 7 and 8, Transformers, and Captain Marvel make more than the Billion-Dollar Bond, gross isn't exactly proof of a great movie.
I figured it was something like that.
Just FYI: you may want to have your internal sarcasm-meter adjusted. It seems not to be registering a fairly obvious example...
You're a sexist misogynist dinosaur... a relic of the cold war.
They're still there!
Good point.
I'm a lassy and you're in good company because I do too. Honestly, it doesn't bother me one bit and never has. I may be alone in those sentiments.
I don't mind them at all. The moan and groan wokesters are the real enemy.
I mean, I don’t think we’ll have another Bond “Bimbo”, but the series has sort of done an excellent job within the Craig era, as well as films like GE, and OHMSS, of sexualizing the women without having to rely on the bikinis, bimbo attitudes, long camera shots, etc...
An intelligent mind is just as sexy to some men as looks, and if Vesper, Madeline, Natalya, and Tracy (she deserves to be included because Diana Rigg paved the way for these types in the series) are anything to go by, I’m perfectly content with future Bond Girls and that type of direction down the road.
I think the modern Bond girls have been great and attractive too. I’m just not crazy about the idea of shunning tradition and like the potential of making Bond monogamous in the future. I never understood why Bond is called “sexist” just for being polygamous.
I’m not too big on that either, but I like to think that Barbara Broccoli at least knows something like that will be extremely harmful to the franchise. I think the constant criticism within the films of Bond’s sexism was perfectly great for Goldeneye, but have since felt like hitting the same nail with the hammer over and over again in order to prove some kind of relevance.
RoboBond!
I think I found what you're looking for.
Yes, this is the kind of thing I’m not crazy about that I’m noticing too. Paloma showed some skin in her dress, but there’s no doubt they’ve been trying to subvert things and cut out sexual attitudes about women. The objective of desexualizing just feels hypocritical to me when most everyone still has these feelings inside anyway. Sexualizing men and women doesn’t have to be an inherently negative thing, and in my opinion, it really isn’t throughout the Bond series with plenty of strong characters. Going way back to TB, Connery probably shows his skin more often than any of the girls too, and I see nothing wrong with either; having the sexualization of attractive people, both male and female, is just natural expression.
But she was also wearing one, it can be seen clearly when she emerges.
:)) Nice!
I do think Craig was given the reigns a bit too much with the franchise though, and I don't agree with his vision of Bond, particularly in the last 2 films. He didn't get the essence of the Fleming character like Dalton did, who to me is the only actor that really pushed for the novel adaptations, and really understood the literary character. After that I'd probably say it was Connery, and then Lazenby. Craig is now sliding towards the bottom of the barrel, joining Moore and Brozza, which is a shame as I didn't have this opinion at the start of Craig's reign. I thought he really understood Fleming when CR and QoS came out.
Craig built Bond into an interpretation of his own, that wasn't Fleming. He became a grumpy, lonely man, a family man who has retcon family connections with Blofeld (still unforgiveable).
There were moments in NTTD when we were no longer seeing Craig playing Bond, but Craig playing Craig - particularly the confrontation scenes with Blofeld, M, and the pleading scene with Safin.
The biggest gripe by many - Bond having a child and being killed at the end, has Craig's rubber stamp all over it. Babs gave him too much control.
What I'd give now for the next film to have no family backstories, or retcon crap, or personal angst. Just a hard-hitting, brutal spy thriller, that borrows shamelessly from the Fleming books, and we see Bond as a sexist dinosaur again, slapping asses while saying `man talk', smoking 60 fags a day, and popping some Benzedrine before a mission, just to really offend the snowflake generation (and probably Babs too).
This unfortunately seems to be the case.Having women who look attractive seems to be a bad thing now.What these people don’t realise is that there actually is a big female audience for these films and appreciate the glamour of those past Bond girls.
The actress Alice Eve who “ notoriously “ had a gratuitous scene where she posed in her undies in Star Trek:Into Darkness,was asked a question by a woke journalist who asked her if she felt objectified and overtly sexualised in that scene.Eve had a particularly refreshing answer to that question who said that she was proud of that scene.She worked hard to get in shape and said “ I looked good didn’t i? “.
Good to see not all Hollywood actresses went to the same man hating school as Brie Larson!
CR was an okay place to start a reboot, but it messed up the end of the book so we could see Vesper die in an in-your-face way so we could get all teary...
QOS was a step up IMO.
From then on it all went to crap.
One take away from NTTD- it showed me what an under-appreciated masterpiece Die Another Day is.
Based on what I've seen thus far, EON is dead to me.
I have zero faith that I will ever see a decent new James Bond film again in my lifetime.
Unless they sell the franchise to a company that wants to bring the feel of the old days back when Bond was an adventure series, and not a damned soap opera....
DAD a masterpiece?
Ha ha ha ad infinitum....
I am quite scary. This is what No Time To Die did to me.
Okay, that was funny.
That was quite a punch line. I must remember it for future use... ;)
We're all entitled to our opinions, of course -- but on this particular point I have to disagree.
One of Ian Fleming's lesser points as writer is that, occasionally, he felt the need to tell the reader that such-and-such had happened -- when he really should have SHOWED US that event happening. In GF the novel, for example, he has Tilly tell Bond (and by extension, us the readers) that her sister Jill was killed by Goldfinger painting her body in gold paint. In one of the movie's scripted improvements on the Fleming original, we are SHOWN the murdered golden girl -- and that moment is one of the most powerful scenes in the entire Bond canon. In CR the novel, Fleming lets us read Vesper's suicide note -- but he doesn't actually depict her suicide. Again, he tells us rather than shows us. Showing us is the preferable narrative path -- and that's something Fleming couldn't bring himself to do in the novel. The movie took the more dramatically effective path by actually showing us Vesper's death. Not so that we'd get all "teary" -- but so that we could experience her passing most effectively.