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Except we’ve already had actors that don’t look like Fleming’s Bond. Why is it only suddenly an issue when a black actor takes the role?
It's not suddenly an issue for me. I'm wasn't overly keen on Craig in the role, mostly because he doesn't fit my idea of the Fleming Bond.
I'd like them to find another Dalton type for the roll. Someone dapper with a cruel streak. I doubt they will, but you never know. I'm not confident after the last movie, but who knows?
That wouldn't be dodgy, that would be racist.
I suppose I'm racist for saying dodgy instead of racist. Or am I just dodgy?
You're dodgy for saying dodgy instead of racist. ;)
We already had a black Moneypenny and Felix Leiter. It seems like an inevitability at this point.
Without trying to derail the thread, I try not to use the word 'racist' unless I'm actually sure that someone definitely looks down on another race and considers them inferior. A lot of the time I see the word 'racist' used when someone's merely being insensitive or tasteless. I suppose it has to do with being a kid in the seventies.
It would be a mild shockwave, really. It'd get overstated by a few loud fans as these things always do, but it'd pass soon enough. They should just do what they feel best.
But the way you presented your original hypothetical, not wanting a black prime minister or a black postman, the context is race and the only characteristic brought up for these people is their race. How can that not be racist?
Yup, it's a good point Adam: the example was of a hypothetical person not wanting people in certain positions (not acting roles) purely because of their race: that is an example of racism and nothing else.
The same as if an Eskimo, or an Aboriginal Australian, or a Chinaman was cast. Or even a woman, or a midget, or an alien ... or a giraffe, or a gerbil.
It really is okay to say 'I'd like James Bond to be English, white, tall dark and handsome, like the books, and if he's not, it won't seem like James Bond'.
We're not stoking up the gas chambers here.
As mentioned above, we haven't had the facial scar, comma of hair, sea island shirts etc. but he's still Bond.
“Chinaman”
…I think it’s time we look for you walker.
Should I have said Chinese person?
Help me out here!
Not sure we can teach an old dog new tricks.
And extraterrestrials.
Yea, I got those wrong. Luckily, I didn't differentiate between grey and green aliens.
Now, if one were born and raised in Britain, that would be less alienable.
Eh? I know loads of British people who aren't black. I don't get your point here.
I said. . .
It really is okay to say 'I'd like James Bond to be English, white, tall dark and handsome, like the books, and if he's not, it won't seem like James Bond'.
That's not saying English (or British) people can't be black. Read it again.
'Over and out' on this one for me.
Will it, though? 😉 I am not sure the shock of NTTD's ending has already been quieted down.
Do you mean on here? I honestly don't think it's something I really feel going on, folks are over it aren't they? It's not like the papers are talking about it or anything :)
Asian-American. Please.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/17/new-bill-quietly-gives-powers-to-remove-british-citizenship-without-notice