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  • Posts: 1,985
    Clearly a big challenge will be getting beyond 'been there, done that.' I've seen enough Bond contemplates resigning, rockets, solar arrays, diamonds, planned nuclear explosions, micro anything, and the possibility of World War III.

    I prefer Bond as secret agent rather than world saving super spy. With all the sophisticated technology capable of keeping tabs on folks, perhaps Bond's job becomes seemingly less glamorous. Perhaps he's called upon to help find a missing piece of art, or trains to infiltrate the world of auto racing, or he's assigned to protect a famous rock star. Or maybe he stumbles into something nefarious. Of course all of this blossoms into something larger, but not on the scale of missiles zooming in or hundreds of paratroopers dropping in. For once, maybe he can chase a bad guy on a bicycle.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    Posts: 3,789
    I just want to see Bond being a low key spy.
    People keep asking "is that where all of the Government taxes go? To Bond's high, sophisticated life? "
  • SilvermothSilvermoth Australia
    edited January 2023 Posts: 27
    I still think Bond should take on the Russians again. Smersh reimagined?

    I’m sure he will. There really hasn’t been a better time for Bond since the 60s
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited January 2023 Posts: 1,646
    MI6HQ wrote: »
    I just want to see Bond being a low key spy.
    People keep asking "is that where all of the Government taxes go? To Bond's high, sophisticated life? "

    It's not far off from actual military expenditures in most countries. Boys with toys etc. I hope the producers ignore the noise and keep the fun.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,585
    I still contend that EON needs to seriously consider placing Bond in the late 50s/early 60s Cold War and leaving him there for a while. Several reasons:
    1. The retro look/feel is appealing. (See Mad Men, See Last Night in Soho, see Man from UNCLE, see Wonder Woman, et al).
    2. We can get away from the "technology" vs "man in the field" conflicts which will otherwise continue to dominate the storylines.
    3. Without all the 21st-century technologies, Bond has to again rely more on instinct and guile.
    4. The series can actually make stronger political/social statements about the world today, based on Cold War plotlines.
    5. No need to worry as much about villains offending anyone.
    6. Bond girls can go back to being....Bond girls, but instead of being sexist stereotypes, they can be viewed more in terms of #4 above. It's a win-win.




  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,970
    I think that's too risky. It's more expensive and a period drama is a riskier sell to general audiences meaning that the investment in a period James Bond probably wouldn't turn out well.
  • Posts: 1,985
    TripAces wrote: »
    I still contend that EON needs to seriously consider placing Bond in the late 50s/early 60s Cold War and leaving him there for a while. Several reasons:
    1. The retro look/feel is appealing. (See Mad Men, See Last Night in Soho, see Man from UNCLE, see Wonder Woman, et al).
    2. We can get away from the "technology" vs "man in the field" conflicts which will otherwise continue to dominate the storylines.
    3. Without all the 21st-century technologies, Bond has to again rely more on instinct and guile.
    4. The series can actually make stronger political/social statements about the world today, based on Cold War plotlines.
    5. No need to worry as much about villains offending anyone.
    6. Bond girls can go back to being....Bond girls, but instead of being sexist stereotypes, they can be viewed more in terms of #4 above. It's a win-win.




    Too costly. But a story that begins in the 50s and has ramifications in 2024 might fly.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited January 2023 Posts: 1,646
    TripAces wrote: »
    I still contend that EON needs to seriously consider placing Bond in the late 50s/early 60s Cold War and leaving him there for a while. Several reasons:
    1. The retro look/feel is appealing. (See Mad Men, See Last Night in Soho, see Man from UNCLE, see Wonder Woman, et al).
    2. We can get away from the "technology" vs "man in the field" conflicts which will otherwise continue to dominate the storylines.
    3. Without all the 21st-century technologies, Bond has to again rely more on instinct and guile.
    4. The series can actually make stronger political/social statements about the world today, based on Cold War plotlines.
    5. No need to worry as much about villains offending anyone.
    6. Bond girls can go back to being....Bond girls, but instead of being sexist stereotypes, they can be viewed more in terms of #4 above. It's a win-win.




    (Creatively) Lazy. I want my own Bond. Don't steal a Bond away from an entire generation because you don't want to offend anyone. That's lame. You have a dozen Cold War Bond movies to enjoy, the series should continue on in modern day, as it always has.
  • edited January 2023 Posts: 4,139
    CrabKey wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    I still contend that EON needs to seriously consider placing Bond in the late 50s/early 60s Cold War and leaving him there for a while. Several reasons:
    1. The retro look/feel is appealing. (See Mad Men, See Last Night in Soho, see Man from UNCLE, see Wonder Woman, et al).
    2. We can get away from the "technology" vs "man in the field" conflicts which will otherwise continue to dominate the storylines.
    3. Without all the 21st-century technologies, Bond has to again rely more on instinct and guile.
    4. The series can actually make stronger political/social statements about the world today, based on Cold War plotlines.
    5. No need to worry as much about villains offending anyone.
    6. Bond girls can go back to being....Bond girls, but instead of being sexist stereotypes, they can be viewed more in terms of #4 above. It's a win-win.




    Too costly. But a story that begins in the 50s and has ramifications in 2024 might fly.

    That’d be an interesting premise. I suppose we’ve already had NTTD’s beginning (I guess set in the 90s) having ramifications in the present. There’s a lot that could be done with that basic idea though.

    Anyway, I’m not counting on any future Bond films being set in the 50s. Practically speaking these films rely on sponsorships and need modern clothes, cars, accessories etc. I also think the spirit of the films is to bring the character into the modern world (remember, the Connery films came out in a completely different decade to when the majority of the novels were written, and the films/depiction of Bond felt distinctly 1960s or more ‘modern’ for the time one could argue).
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,585
    LucknFate wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    I still contend that EON needs to seriously consider placing Bond in the late 50s/early 60s Cold War and leaving him there for a while. Several reasons:
    1. The retro look/feel is appealing. (See Mad Men, See Last Night in Soho, see Man from UNCLE, see Wonder Woman, et al).
    2. We can get away from the "technology" vs "man in the field" conflicts which will otherwise continue to dominate the storylines.
    3. Without all the 21st-century technologies, Bond has to again rely more on instinct and guile.
    4. The series can actually make stronger political/social statements about the world today, based on Cold War plotlines.
    5. No need to worry as much about villains offending anyone.
    6. Bond girls can go back to being....Bond girls, but instead of being sexist stereotypes, they can be viewed more in terms of #4 above. It's a win-win.




    (Creatively) Lazy. I want my own Bond. Don't steal a Bond away from an entire generation because you don't want to offend anyone. That's lame. You have a dozen Cold War Bond movies to enjoy, the series should continue on in modern day, as it always has.

    Actually, no. It's creatively inspiring.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    Posts: 1,646
    Let the past die.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    Posts: 3,789
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Let the past die.

    This!
    Let Bond be contemporary, the good thing about Bond was each era was in a time capsules, Connery/Lazenby Era was 60's, Moore era in 70's, Dalton in 80's, Brosnan in 90's, and Craig in the modern era.
    Each era represents each decade or year, and in a more genuine way that the period piece couldn't make, it's just making a new movie with a retro skin.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,296
    CrabKey wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    I still contend that EON needs to seriously consider placing Bond in the late 50s/early 60s Cold War and leaving him there for a while. Several reasons:
    1. The retro look/feel is appealing. (See Mad Men, See Last Night in Soho, see Man from UNCLE, see Wonder Woman, et al).
    2. We can get away from the "technology" vs "man in the field" conflicts which will otherwise continue to dominate the storylines.
    3. Without all the 21st-century technologies, Bond has to again rely more on instinct and guile.
    4. The series can actually make stronger political/social statements about the world today, based on Cold War plotlines.
    5. No need to worry as much about villains offending anyone.
    6. Bond girls can go back to being....Bond girls, but instead of being sexist stereotypes, they can be viewed more in terms of #4 above. It's a win-win.




    Too costly. But a story that begins in the 50s and has ramifications in 2024 might fly.

    "Grandpa told me once about this evil man called Dr. No..."
  • SilvermothSilvermoth Australia
    Posts: 27
    Yeah when you do it as a costume drama you pretty much have to admit Bond is just for nostalgia and I honestly can’t think of a better time for Bond than right now.

    I did hear a fun idea though that it might be fun to do, like a three in one type film to celebrate the 80th anniversary. So the first one is set right after world war 2, then a 60s one, then now
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,789
    echo wrote: »
    "Grandpa told me once about this evil man called Dr. No..."

    James I’m going to tell you a story… about a man.

    His name was No. Dr No.

  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,970
    Again, they would lose so much money if they did a period piece.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,296
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Again, they would lose so much money if they did a period piece.

    ^This. They rely on product placement to finance the films.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited January 2023 Posts: 3,152
    Didn't MGW say something to the effect of 'Bond is always a contemporary character'? That rules out period pieces, I guess. Shame, I'm sure we'd love, say, an authentic MR set in the mid-50s. Bezos could finance it as an Amazon streaming thing and make the money back in a week just on interest payments alone. Probably. Can't help thinking that A*d*n T*rner would be good for a '50s-set Bond.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited January 2023 Posts: 16,382
    The problem then is if you continue you get a period version of Goldfinger, set only a few years before the film was made so looking not that much different only less authentic, with a pretty similar plot only a bit less interesting, where there's no laser beam and a girl gets painted in gold paint but you never see it; no Connery, no Ken Adam, no John Barry, no Brownjohn titles, no Shirley Bassey, an older Aston Martin which is a bit less sexy and doesn't do anything... I don't know about you but I'd rather watch the film. See also FRWL, OHMSS, TB etc.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited January 2023 Posts: 5,970
    It will never happen but if they did adapt the original books into a period television series I think Matt Smith would've made a good Bond in that. I think his look very much captures that era. While Aiden Turner makes sense to some degree, probably more so because of his appearance in And Then There Were None, I feel he fits more into the modern idea of masculinity and sex appeal than someone like Matt Smith, who I feel is perfect for a 1950s gentleman spy. Matt actually has a little bit of the Fleming about him.

  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    Posts: 2,641
    I'd be concerned they've run out of ideas, if they rebooted the series in the 50's/60's.
    I'm not keen on that idea if I'm honest
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    Posts: 3,789
    Reading the Dynamite comics shows that Bond could still be in contemporary.
    Even the Bond books evolved too: after Fleming, Gardner's Bond was in the 70's/80's, Benson's Bond was in the 90's, same for the one off authors like Deaver, and now there's Kim Sherwood.

    The only one that broke the mold was Anthony Horowitz, but his novels were a continuation of what Fleming had started, not in it's own era like Gardner's and Benson's.

    There's still an evolution, that's part of the Franchise, seeing the character and world of Bond evolve.

    Like Fashion, Product Placements, trends (look at how they've turned baccarat into Poker in CR), politics, plot, agenda.

    James Bond survived many eras, to make a period piece would make it worse, because it just shows that Bond couldn't be evolved, he couldn't survived in the modern era, and just accept him as a product of his time, until it would slowly die out.

    And no one wanted that to happen.

    Bond should reflect the times that he's in, there's no problem with adapting MR for example, but they could modernize it like how they've did it in Casino Royale.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited January 2023 Posts: 2,016
    I really think people are never tired of seeing James Bond do the same thing...over and over again. Of course, some of the films are slightly different. But people go into the films and expect 007 to do what they expect him to do and people are very happy when he does it. It explains why the series is now 60yrs old and counting. People can't get enough of James Bond. So I don't think there's any need to be worried.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited January 2023 Posts: 3,152
    Yeah, those are all valid objections, tbf. But I want a more authentic MR, goddamnit! ;)
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    Posts: 3,789
    Venutius wrote: »
    Yeah, those are all valid objections, tbf. But I want a more authentic MR, goddamnit! ;)

    It could still be done, but in a modernize and updated way, like Casino Royale.

    The plot wasn't that outdated enough, the book in general wasn't that too outdated, so there's nothing much to change.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited January 2023 Posts: 6,296
    MI6HQ wrote: »
    Venutius wrote: »
    Yeah, those are all valid objections, tbf. But I want a more authentic MR, goddamnit! ;)

    It could still be done, but in a modernize and updated way, like Casino Royale.

    The plot wasn't that outdated enough, the book in general wasn't that too outdated, so there's nothing much to change.

    This is the most likely scenario for Bond 26. Although maybe they should reboot what's unused from LALD first (the barracuda swim as a PTS?). They might want to give Bond #7 a happy ending in his first film, to distinguish him from Craig, so maybe not MR at the start.

    Frankly, Craig had so many downer (albeit well-done) endings that I think Eon is going to feel pressure to go the other way and be a bit happier at the end.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,629
    MI6HQ wrote: »
    Reading the Dynamite comics shows that Bond could still be in contemporary.
    Even the Bond books evolved too: after Fleming, Gardner's Bond was in the 70's/80's, Benson's Bond was in the 90's, same for the one off authors like Deaver, and now there's Kim Sherwood.

    The only one that broke the mold was Anthony Horowitz, but his novels were a continuation of what Fleming had started, not in it's own era like Gardner's and Benson's.

    There's still an evolution, that's part of the Franchise, seeing the character and world of Bond evolve.

    Like Fashion, Product Placements, trends (look at how they've turned baccarat into Poker in CR), politics, plot, agenda.

    James Bond survived many eras, to make a period piece would make it worse, because it just shows that Bond couldn't be evolved, he couldn't survived in the modern era, and just accept him as a product of his time, until it would slowly die out.

    And no one wanted that to happen.

    Bond should reflect the times that he's in, there's no problem with adapting MR for example, but they could modernize it like how they've did it in Casino Royale.

    It wouldn't be too hard to adapt Anthony Horowitz's novels for modern use, though. Particularly FAAD. IFP were a bit too much in the past with the mixed bags of DMC and SOLO, honestly. They need to move forward from Fleming's timeline, like EON with Purvis and Wade. Quite a few of Gardener and Benson's novels could work in modern day, as well.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,382
    I don't really think that any of the continuation novels have strong enough material that's worth adapting, to be honest. I enjoy them for what they are, but they may as well write their own original stuff.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,629
    mtm wrote: »
    I don't really think that any of the continuation novels have strong enough material that's worth adapting, to be honest. I enjoy them for what they are, but they may as well write their own original stuff.

    I see where you’re coming from. But I think one of them deserves a chance before Purvis and Wade get another chance at Bond resigning.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,296
    It's not Gardner's best, but Icebreaker has elements that I think would work in a film, specifically the international team of four (?) trying to work together but double-crossing one another. And of course, the locations and the ice water torture.
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