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  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Billie Eilish gets her second Oscar.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Cillian Murphy wins best actor.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Best director goes to Nolan.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    Oppenheimer is raking them up now.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Nolan represents cinema in its purist form.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Emma Stone wins best actress.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Oppenheimer wins best picture, Pacino just said it immediately lol
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
    edited March 11 Posts: 2,865
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    Emma Stone wins best actress.

    WOW. That is somewhat of a surprise. I was sure that Gladstone would win. I don't recall Killers of the Flower Moon winning anything.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Dwayne wrote: »
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    Emma Stone wins best actress.

    WOW. That is somewhat of a surprise. I was sure that Gladstone would win. I don't recall Killers of the Flower Moon winning anything.

    I was hoping Emma would win, not seen KOTFM.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    I can see the headlines already "Cork Man wins Oscar!' Congrats to Cillian Murphy, fully deserved! And to Emma Stone, great performance there too!
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    You can now bet that Cillian Murphy is official on Eon’s short list of Bond villain casting, as the last three Bond villains have all been Oscar winners.
  • jobojobo
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    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    You can now bet that Cillian Murphy is official on Eon’s short list of Bond villain casting, as the last three Bond villains have all been Oscar winners.

    Robert Downey JR as well... 😉
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited March 11 Posts: 41,011
    I guess I'll finally have to check out Oppenheimer today then since I've been on a Best Picture winner kick of late. Happy to see Poor Things (my personal favorite of the year) pick up some awards.

    I was also surprised yet cheekily happy that KOTFM didn't take home any awards, as I thought it was incredibly overrated and I think Scorsese has infinitely better films out there more deserving of Oscars, but that's just my tiny minority opinion on that one. I was really figuring Gladstone had the win locked down though, as she was a constant shining beacon throughout that film and probably my favorite part of it.

    Big smiles all around for Miyazaki getting an Oscar, while I had some hopes that Perfect Days or Society of the Snow could've won Best International Feature. The Zone of Interest was another one that was a little overblown in its estimations, I felt, but again, I'm clearly in a minority in that opinion.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I guess I'll finally have to check out Oppenheimer today then since I've been on a Best Picture winner kick of late. Happy to see Poor Things (my personal favorite of the year) pick up some awards.

    I was also surprised yet cheekily happy that KOTFM didn't take home any awards, as I thought it was incredibly overrated and I think Scorsese has infinitely better films out there more deserving of Oscars, but that's just my tiny minority opinion on that one. I was really figuring Gladstone had the win locked down though, as she was a constant shining beacon throughout that film and probably my favorite part of it.

    Big smiles all around for Miyazaki getting an Oscar, while I had some hopes that Perfect Days or Society of the Snow could've won Best International Feature. The Zone of Interest was another one that was a little overblown in its estimations, I felt, but again, I'm clearly in a minority in that opinion.

    I agree with you about Scorsese and KOTFM. He definitely has better movies that should have won the Oscars. I'm happy with the wins though, more so than other years. He has a better attitude about it, compared to this guy playing the race card.



    Also, I respect that both Scorsese and Emma Stone acknowledged her, and offered some support publicly. Jada didn't do that for Will!
  • DoctorKaufmannDoctorKaufmann Can shoot you from Stuttgart and still make it look like suicide.
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    Scorsese did not get an Oscar for TAXI DRIVER, RAGING BULL or GOOD FELLAS. His Oscar for THE DEPARTED felt like like some consolation (an alright, but not outstanding movie). Same with Ennio Morricone, whod had been nominated a lot of times, but was overlooked, only to get it for THE HATEFUL EIGHT. Or di Caprio. THE REVENANT was definitely a mediocre movie. The Academy does this from time to time. And Pacino really scrwed up the big moment. Did he not know, what to do (he'd been at several Oscars himself before), or did he not bother, because he is Pacino? And Gosling just rocked the show. Maybe EON should offer him to do the next Bond song? Or play Bond himself? At least, he is not American, but Canadian, i.e. from the Common Wealth. JUST KIDDING!
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    DoctorKaufmann wrote: »
    Scorsese did not get an Oscar for TAXI DRIVER, RAGING BULL or GOOD FELLAS. His Oscar for THE DEPARTED felt like like some consolation (an alright, but not outstanding movie). Same with Ennio Morricone, whod had been nominated a lot of times, but was overlooked, only to get it for THE HATEFUL EIGHT. Or di Caprio. THE REVENANT was definitely a mediocre movie. The Academy does this from time to time. And Pacino really scrwed up the big moment. Did he not know, what to do (he'd been at several Oscars himself before), or did he not bother, because he is Pacino? And Gosling just rocked the show. Maybe EON should offer him to do the next Bond song? Or play Bond himself? At least, he is not American, but Canadian, i.e. from the Common Wealth. JUST KIDDING!

    Pacino should have won for:

    Godfather
    Godfather II
    Dog Day Afternoon
    Serpico.

    He won for… Scent of a Woman ( 😞).

    Denzel Washington was beaten by Pacino, for Best Actor, but he should have won for Malcolm X, but…. He won for… Training Day.

    The late, great Tom Wilkinson should probably have beaten Denzel that year.

    Hitchcock was nominated five times for Best Director and he won…. Zero times.

    Scorsese should have won Best Director for Taxi Driver, Raging Bull and Goodfellas (the latter was lost to Dances With Wolves’s, Kevin Costner)… And my own belief is he should have beaten Nolan for KOTFM, and; one of KOTFM, or Poor Things should have beaten Oppenheimer for Best Film (never have I seen a film before, where the title is the name of the lead character, and I learned almost nothing about the protagonist (and the last act, IMO, was where, finally, the real drama lay))… But, all my opinion and why art is subjective…

    I stopped watching the Oscars a long time ago as I felt I was watching millions of dollars sunk into political-type campaigns to win, at all costs, what amounts to, in most cases, a popularity contest.

    As for Pacino’s gaffe: he, and one of the producers of the show, have said that that is the way they wanted to present the final award for the night. The belief was that they had shown clips and chatted about the nominees all throughout the night, and they felt that was enough. But, by all accounts, Pacino was doing what was asked of him.



  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Yeah it's been easy to tune out these awards shows over the past several years as I got older and realized the awards aren't based on merit but rather on PR and money-soaked campaigns, favors, and more. Hearing that some members don't even watch categories like animated films and instead ask their grandkids for the best of the year was even more telling that Oscars and the like really don't hold much weight.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Yeah it's been easy to tune out these awards shows over the past several years as I got older and realized the awards aren't based on merit but rather on PR and money-soaked campaigns, favors, and more. Hearing that some members don't even watch categories like animated films and instead ask their grandkids for the best of the year was even more telling that Oscars and the like really don't hold much weight.

    💯 % @Creasy47 …. When I saw clips from this year’s show, I turned off most of them within ten seconds. Pretty cringey stuff, although I admit my favourite part was seeing Emma Stone slide eyes to her husband and call Kimmel a pr!ck.

    That was genuinely funny, and about the only authentic thing I saw, 😂!!
  • jobojobo
    edited March 15 Posts: 7,507
    Talking about overdue actors, Bradley Cooper has been nominated 12 times and never won. As much as I do like and appreciate Cillian Murphy as Oppenheimer, I think Cooper's performance in Maestro was more impressive and virtuoso. It also speaks of incredible preparation, not only learning to conduct convincingly but also to do it with the same movements and characteristics of Bernstein. I think he should have won this year, and I assume some years from now he will win for a less impressive performance because they realize he is due one, taking the prize from a more deserving candidate. The cycle repeats.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @jobo, that's crazy! I mistakenly thought he won for American Sniper. The guy is a talented triple threat, so this is surprising, and at the same time, not... Wow!
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    jobo wrote: »
    Talking about overdue actors, Bradley Cooper has been nominated 12 times and never won. As much as I do like and appreciate Cillian Murphy as Oppenheimer, I think Cooper's performance in Maestro was more impressive and virtuoso. It also speaks of incredible preparation, not only learning to conduct convincingly but also to do it with the same movements and characteristics of Bernstein. I think he should have won this year, and I assume some years from now he will win for a less impressive performance because they realize he is due one, taking the prize from a more deserving candidate. The cycle repeats.

    Also Annette Bening, Glenn Close, and Amy Adams for god's sake! A lot of times these actors should have won for their first, or breakout roles (think of Kathy Bates in Misery), but they don't win, and then the Oscars are forever playing catch-up.

    Then again, Cary Grant never won and was barely nominated, and I think his reputation is just fine.
  • FeyadorFeyador Montreal, Canada
    edited March 15 Posts: 735
    echo wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    Talking about overdue actors, Bradley Cooper has been nominated 12 times and never won. As much as I do like and appreciate Cillian Murphy as Oppenheimer, I think Cooper's performance in Maestro was more impressive and virtuoso. It also speaks of incredible preparation, not only learning to conduct convincingly but also to do it with the same movements and characteristics of Bernstein. I think he should have won this year, and I assume some years from now he will win for a less impressive performance because they realize he is due one, taking the prize from a more deserving candidate. The cycle repeats.

    Also Annette Bening, Glenn Close, and Amy Adams for god's sake! A lot of times these actors should have won for their first, or breakout roles (think of Kathy Bates in Misery), but they don't win, and then the Oscars are forever playing catch-up.

    Then again, Cary Grant never won and was barely nominated, and I think his reputation is just fine.

    Yeah, Grant was always thought to be 'just playing himself,' which he was in a way, Archie Leach's ingenious creation. And effortless performances are less valued than those in which an actor is seen to be acting. Usually in something portentous. As Grant was himself in None But the Lonely Heart, ironically the performance that comes closest to what we know of the real Archie Leach .....
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Saw the clips of Kimmel making fun of Downy Jr. for his drug habit was very off-putting. Seemed mean spirited and not funny. Course I am already not a Kimmel fan so take it for what it's worth.

  • peterpeter Toronto
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    thedove wrote: »
    Saw the clips of Kimmel making fun of Downy Jr. for his drug habit was very off-putting. Seemed mean spirited and not funny. Course I am already not a Kimmel fan so take it for what it's worth.

    I agree with you. I read about it, and it was mean spirited. Downey Jr had an addiction. He paid the price, he got clean and sober, he has been very giving and sharing about these times, and it's time for all to move on (I mean it must be close to 20 years (or more?) that he's been clean?)

    And @thedove , I'm also not a fan. Kimmel seems to lace his "humour" with bitterness and a healthy undercurrent of anger...
  • DoctorKaufmannDoctorKaufmann Can shoot you from Stuttgart and still make it look like suicide.
    edited March 16 Posts: 1,261
    That's what I meant about "consoling Oscars", like, "we know, we overlloked this actress/actor/director on past occasion, but he/she will get it next time round." But then, the Oscars are not given away by jury like Cannes or Venice, but actually win by majority of votes. And officially only the people at PriceWaterhouseCooper know the results prior to the show. And if Pacino's delivery was the one, they agreed for it before the show, okay, for the random viewer it looked somehow awkward. I tuned in, when I thought, it was about to start, and then noticed, that they already were 3/4 through with the show.Oh, and apparently we are back to massive overlength movies. Not only at the Oscars. There I liked Ridley Scott saying he tried to get the final cut of NAPOELON to be as close as possible to the 2 1/2 hour mark, because the audience will feel tired, hungry, and thirsty, and might need to go tto the bathroom. Maybe someone tells Christopher Nolan. And Scorsese (as much as I like a lot of his movies). Otherwise we will get a three-hour plus x Bond movie, once he gets the job.
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