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Quantum are easily forgettable villians. And they could always have bond take them out. I'd love to see spectre return.
Who cares about timeline and continuity ? Completly secondary and unimportant element to what Bond films are about. I don't want continuity, I want fun, humour, gags, escapism, glamour, entertainement. If it means 'violating' the new 'continuity' by bringing in Blofeld's son, then so be it, as long as it makes the films fun.
Why blofelds son, why not blofeld????????? I also want some fun, homour, glamour and entertainment to balance out the dark, realistic side of bond we've seen. CR was awesome, but QOS was terrible and now I want a proper bond film
It would be suicide to the serious-ness of the series. That unstable of a foundation in the writing, switching from one big organization to another, seemingly with Bond unaware of the previous and the two organizations apparently not enemies while not allies would just be ridiculous.
Don't bite into another chocolate chip cookie just seconds after biting into the first. Finish one, then consider the next.
Like Sam said, Quantum still has ALOT of potential. At least do us people who care about continuity and intelligence of giving Quantum a write off.. at least!
And as for continuity: it's nice to see some real continuity between Bond films. Before they were all just one-off adventures that had nothing to do with one another, now they're all a part of a bigger picture, and I'd love to see that picture when the painter is finished.
The real problem is that Quantum, by the mere fact of the film's title, cannot be disconnected from QoS. Reviving Quantum in one of the next Bonds will automatically raise confusion as to whether or not this Bond film is to be tied with QoS. The problem with SPECTRE, IMO, plays out on the level of its leader, Blofeld. Can we bring back Blofeld? While a modern Blofeld needs not be of the Dr Evil type of villains, we should still consider the possibility that there's little room for such a character outside the somewhat innocent and naive spy craze of the '60s.
Altogether I don't think it's impossible to continue with Quantum in the nearby future or even to resurrect SPECTRE. A good screenwriter can surely live up to the challenge. However, will it add something substantial to the series that justifies the risks involved? I wonder.
Good. Better now than never.
Yet despite the fact that I also don't think we'll see SPECTRE and Blofeld return to the series any time soon, I don't think the argument holds. Having no connection to the novels or previous films hasn't ever stopped them from using e.g. familiar characters (like Felix Leiter).
Let me re-phrase. The professionalism of the series. I meant the crew behind the production of the films. Flip-flopping like that would just be silly.
SMERSH is part of a government, something we haven't seen Bond really truly go against quite yet.
MI:GP balanced it perfectly, with Hunt & co being hunted by essentially a modern SMERSH agent, while trying to prove to said agent they weren't responsible for the Kremlin explosion.
Skyfall could introduce SMERSH as the Russian CIA or whatever, without taking anything from the book. Besides maybe their Siberian origin.
*sigh, preaching to a deaf audience (:|
Sorry, my previous post is unclear, and I regret that. I agree with you, and I intended to demonstrate that both me and you seem to be preaching to a deaf audience. :-h
Your argument almost doesn't work, because you quote me as being the deaf audience, and both of your arguments were in response to that quote.
Also, if explaining myself helps: I never believe what the producers say until the film comes out. Anything they say could be misdirection to get us thinking away from the true subject of the film so that we can be surprised (either pleasantly or angrily) when the film finally comes out. So, they could say they're using nothing from the novels, but until the movie actually arrives in theaters and we all see it, we really don't know if they mean that.
Another example: The Spy Who Loved Me. Fleming didn't allow anything but the title to be used for the film, but the two henchmen in the novel became Jaws and Sandor in the film.
It's funny I always thought the same about Janus. I loved GE but I thought it was a missed opportunity: why not have made Trevelyan the field commander for the Goldeneye operation and have another big baddie above him, a Blofeld/Grubozaboyschikov kind of character? You have pretty much the same film, with the same antagonism between Bond and Trevelyan that gets resolved, yet you create another one for future movies, and an organisation that gained vital importance about MI6 from 006.
I think Quantum can and should be reused, if only to tie things up: they can be destroyed after one big last showdown, or during a PTS (I would prefer the former). Then they can introduce a new recurring adversary, SPECTRE and/or SMERSH,and/ or Blofeld. If they ditch the bald head, the scar and the cat, average viewers will not even make the connection between Blofeld and Dr. Evil.
That's just stupid.
If Blofeld should return in the future? He should have a complete image change? Not sure in what way? But he should be ruthless and meaner than anything we have seen before from Bond's arch enemy! However? THE CAT STAYS!!!!!!!!!!!
As that would be like Bond without his Tuxedo!
I agree. The cat should always stay.
The cat was a nice gimmick, but overdone. It is in NO WAY essential to the character. Why not a Blofeld closer to the one of the novels?
Even if spectre don't return there's no reason why blofeld can't return acting solo. Its a new timeline, anythigns possible. But yeah, I suppose there's no need for spectre since there's quantum, but then, there's no need for smersh either. Personally I hope skyfall introduces blofeld in some way, shape or form, but doesn't include quantum and is still a GF type adventure
well by that logic, why have smersh???
Because, for the millionth time:
Quantum is a faceless, 'evil' organization to the new timeline as was SPECTRE is a faceless, 'evil' organization to the old timeline.
SMERSH is a governmental elite assasination/hit squad for the Russian government in NO timeline.
Your logic makes no.. sense. You cant say "We can't have SPECTRE because we have Quantum" and then say "So we can't have SMERSH because we.. erm.. hmph. I dunno."
Get it now?
It will be hard to keep this discussion going at a quality pace if we keep lingering on things that have already been argued and proven!
We can't have SPECTRE because Quantum is essentially the same as SPECTRE. There is NOTHING the same as SMERSH yet introduced in the new timeline.