BOND 26. PTS ideas to introduce the new Bond.

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  • Posts: 1,993
    We open on a funeral.
    A flag draped coffin.
    M, Moneypenny, Q, Tanner, and all the rest look on somberly.
    We see the feet of someone new joining the group.
    He is late.
    M frowns disapprovingly.
    M-"007, you're late. What's your excuse this time? Traffic?"
    We get our first glimpse of the new Bond.
    Bond - "Yes. Sorry, sir. Incoming was a killer."
    M shakes his head. "If I didn't know better, you'd be late for your own funeral."
    Bond stares at the flag draped coffin.
    Close up on Bond's face as he looks directly into the camera.
    Bond winks.
    Bond theme plays.


  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited June 2023 Posts: 1,649
    Cute, but I don't want Bond so quippy at what I presume is another 00's funeral.
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
    edited June 2023 Posts: 1,033
    I would love a casino scene (have we ever had that as an opener?)… take bits from Moonraker novel perhaps, then something happens at the casino which leads to a brutal chase sequence.
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    I would love a casino scene (have we ever had that as an opener?)… take bits from Moonraker novel perhaps, then something happens at the casino which leads to a brutal chase sequence.

    After the Strangways killing in DN, our first glimpse of Bond is in a casino. I agree. Starting in with a casino scene would not only recall the DN sequence, but also has lots of possibilities to go off of.

  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    I would love a casino scene (have we ever had that as an opener?)… take bits from Moonraker novel perhaps, then something happens at the casino which leads to a brutal chase sequence.

    After the Strangways killing in DN, our first glimpse of Bond is in a casino. I agree. Starting in with a casino scene would not only recall the DN sequence, but also has lots of possibilities to go off of.

    That could be a great opener to a Bond film. After the gun barrel opening, (reinstated I hope), the film could open on a spinning roulette wheel, moving out to show an unseen man in tuxedo approach a gambling table...
    As with any new Bond we have to get at least some build up to there first shot.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited June 2023 Posts: 1,649
    They should steal from On His Majesty's Secret Service and do the second? chapter where a mysterious man rescues a wealthy woman from a motorcade of baddies on motorcycles. Play it from her perspective in the car the entire time. She sees this strong figure moving swiftly around the vehicles, disarming and taking out the men around her. The guy going for her finally turns and doesn't give much of a fight. Camera pans to the open car door from the woman's perspective, the mysterious man picks up his hat, leans into the car with a smile, and says the line.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited June 2023 Posts: 3,789
    LucknFate wrote: »
    They should steal from OHMSS2 and do the second? chapter where a mysterious man rescues a wealthy woman from a motorcade of baddies on motorcycles. Play it from her perspective in the car the entire time. She sees this strong figure moving swiftly around the vehicles, disarming and taking out the men around her. The guy going for her finally turns and doesn't give much of a fight. Camera pans to the open car door from the woman's perspective, the mysterious man picks up his hat, leans into the car with a smile, and says the line.

    OHMSS2? What's that?
  • Posts: 1,993
    I'm guessing the Higson book.
  • DrMabuseDrMabuse Germany
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    Universal Logo, fades into black.

    We hear Madeleine's voice: "I am going to tell you a story about a man. His name was Bond, James Bond."

    James Bond theme, dots coming from the left, Gunbarrel.

    At the end of the Gunbarrel, the red dot turns into white again, then transforms into a golf ball.

    From the golf ball, camera zooms out, low-angle shot of JAMES BOND focusing on the golf course, wearing a white polo short and linen trousers. He hits the ball, 2-3 players friends around him start cheering.

    Next scene, golf match has ended, James Bond has won and is on his way to the golf club with the other players which turn out to be some good friends of his, now also wearing a panama hat. Having arrived at the club, they open a bottle of Pol Roger, engaging in a discussion about champagne. Alas, a loud beeping signal (nowadays, of course via his brand new smartphone) reminds Bond that he is on-call and has to get to HQ immediately. We see him leaving in his Aston Martin, the scene widening to the landscapes of Kent.

    On his way to London, we see a car chase.

    Next scene:

    Door to the antechamber of M's office opens, we see the panama hat flying to the coat-stand and, of course, landing there. James Bond enters and asks:

    "How is the new job, Loelia?"
    "Well, I think MI6 is happy to have some fresh blood from time to time."
    "Indeed."

    Smiling, Bond opens the door to M's office, the door opening the scene to the main titles.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited June 2023 Posts: 3,789
    DrMabuse wrote: »
    Universal Logo, fades into black.

    We hear Madeleine's voice: "I am going to tell you a story about a man. His name was Bond, James Bond."

    James Bond theme, dots coming from the left, Gunbarrel.

    At the end of the Gunbarrel, the red dot turns into white again, then transforms into a golf ball.

    From the golf ball, camera zooms out, low-angle shot of JAMES BOND focusing on the golf course, wearing a white polo short and linen trousers. He hits the ball, 2-3 players friends around him start cheering.

    Next scene, golf match has ended, James Bond has won and is on his way to the golf club with the other players which turn out to be some good friends of his, now also wearing a panama hat. Having arrived at the club, they open a bottle of Pol Roger, engaging in a discussion about champagne. Alas, a loud beeping signal (nowadays, of course via his brand new smartphone) reminds Bond that he is on-call and has to get to HQ immediately. We see him leaving in his Aston Martin, the scene widening to the landscapes of Kent.

    On his way to London, we see a car chase.

    Next scene:

    Door to the antechamber of M's office opens, we see the panama hat flying to the coat-stand and, of course, landing there. James Bond enters and asks:

    "How is the new job, Loelia?"
    "Well, I think MI6 is happy to have some fresh blood from time to time."
    "Indeed."

    Smiling, Bond opens the door to M's office, the door opening the scene to the main titles.

    I'm sure it's going to be a clear reboot, so I don't think they would show Madeleine or Mathilde again.
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    I like this and it could work as a reboot, as Madeleine is telling Bond's history long before she met him. I don't believe they'll go this route. It's an inventive idea, and this is a series that needs to be freshened up.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    I like this and it could work as a reboot, as Madeleine is telling Bond's history long before she met him. I don't believe they'll go this route. It's an inventive idea, and this is a series that needs to be freshened up.

    Like another prequel again?

  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Scuba diving PTS. That hasn't been done, right? Ending with a jetski stunt or similar.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Scuba diving PTS. That hasn't been done, right? Ending with a jetski stunt or similar.

    He's technically diving in Goldfinger's opening but not for long. I like the idea.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited June 2023 Posts: 3,789
    I'm foreshadowing that the PTS for Bond 26 would be similar in style of DAF PTS.

    There would be no direct reference of the previous film, yet there's a hint that it could also be connected to the previous film.

    Look at the DAF PTS, it starts in Japan, so people could safely assume it's set after the events of YOLT, and there are no references of OHMSS.

    But Bond was hunting Blofeld and eager for it, so people at somehow could also connect it to the events of OHMSS, it could be played as a mini revenge sequel.

    So I think with how NTTD ended, that's the PTS I think the Producers would certainly go into.

    No references since it's a reboot for a new era (leaving the Craig Era isolated), but at some point, there's a hint that would be left to the audience's imagination that somehow, could be connected to the events of NTTD, although not direct.

    It got the best of both worlds.

  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    Look at the DAF PTS, it starts in Japan, so people could safely assume it's set after the events of YOLT, and there are no references of OHMSS

    This is astute, and shows how DAF could have been constructed for people who didn't see OHMSS.

  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    echo wrote: »
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    Look at the DAF PTS, it starts in Japan, so people could safely assume it's set after the events of YOLT, and there are no references of OHMSS

    This is astute, and shows how DAF could have been constructed for people who didn't see OHMSS.
    It is quite clever, is DAF a sequel to YOLT, as Connery was in YOLT and then the next Bond film he's in is DAF.
    Or, is Bond in the pts of DAF searching the globe for Blofeld, because of the events of OHMSS?
    It's really quite clever in that respect.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    Benny wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    Look at the DAF PTS, it starts in Japan, so people could safely assume it's set after the events of YOLT, and there are no references of OHMSS

    This is astute, and shows how DAF could have been constructed for people who didn't see OHMSS.
    It is quite clever, is DAF a sequel to YOLT, as Connery was in YOLT and then the next Bond film he's in is DAF.
    Or, is Bond in the pts of DAF searching the globe for Blofeld, because of the events of OHMSS?
    It's really quite clever in that respect.
    echo wrote: »
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    Look at the DAF PTS, it starts in Japan, so people could safely assume it's set after the events of YOLT, and there are no references of OHMSS

    This is astute, and shows how DAF could have been constructed for people who didn't see OHMSS.

    It would be a lot more clever if they're going down that route, that style, after the events of NTTD.
  • edited June 2023 Posts: 859
    Thinking of the day: a great way to end a ski chase would be Bond outnumbered entering in theses kind of vehicule and give a hell of a run to his pursuers by becoming the predator in a descent :

    GettyImages-1096263404.jpg?quality=85&strip=all

    BTW this combo, quad + bike + old streets with stairs is pretty good ; bike had never been overuse in movies chases history and could be original (but I guess it's too similiar to Matera motorbike in NTTD) :

    christos-marmeris-chasing-final.jpg?1684682001

    https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Ge6da4
  • Posts: 15,123
    I'd like a PTS akin to CR's or the early Bond films: smaller scale and sober. So here's my idea:
    -Gunbarrel, then right after it, the camera moves to Bond, in a smoking, holding his ppk. Movie starts right after the gunbarrel sequence.
    -Travelling to the unfortunate sniper, lying in the ground, maybe in the woodlands somewhere. There's fireworks. A new year is being celebrated in a Manor or a castle somewhere in Europe, maybe Austria. New year, new Bond, his entrance might be too on the nose, but hey. Bond is there officially as a guest, but he needs to retrieve a MacGuffin of some sort.
    -Gets in the castle, finds the MacGuffin, some docs or other, Gets interrupted by some villain, big guy, looking nasty and imposing. "What happened to the guard?" "Sudden and nasty headache." Fight ensues. Bond kills him, retrieves the MacGuffin, leaves manor, calls MI6: "007 here, I'm back."

    Needs work and maybe too close to Trigger Mortis, but something like that would do nicely.
  • We are a few years from finding out.
  • Posts: 1,993
    We are a few years from finding out.

    Let's speculate anyway.
  • Posts: 1,993
    As the Craig era sets itself up as both a beginning and end for Bond, will Bond 26 incorporate callbacks or choose to avoid them? Can the new series avoid referring to the Craig era? If it does callback Craig's films, what would make sense?
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    I don't think they need to make any callbacks or nods to the Craig films. Having a beginning, middle and an end, the Craig films are their own little universe, unlike any of the other actor's tenure in the role. For good or bad it's unique to the series thus far.
    For the next actor, I think having no comparisons to the Craig films will only help them, and their films.
  • Posts: 15,123
    CrabKey wrote: »
    As the Craig era sets itself up as both a beginning and end for Bond, will Bond 26 incorporate callbacks or choose to avoid them? Can the new series avoid referring to the Craig era? If it does callback Craig's films, what would make sense?

    I suspect there will be some degrees of callbacks. Maybe even allusions to Vesper. I'm only speculating mind you, but I think there will be some.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    There's bound to be be a little wink or nod pop up, sure. A line of dialogue, an upgraded gadget. Keep the references subtle. Also, remember there was a bit of overlap from DAD to CR, such as the Seamaster Pro, P99, MI6 shield logo before dispensing with all of that come QOS. Likewise we may see a little Craig era overlap into Bond 7's era until it finds its own identity.
  • Posts: 15,123
    I suspect, and maybe I'm completely wrong, that Bond 26 will be akin to Bond year 2. So not an origin story but an early years Bond.
  • Posts: 1,993
    Recalling the Craig era seems unnecessary, but if reference must be made to Vesper, I hope it is not by name. Perhaps a vague reference such as "there was someone once."

    I hope our next Bond is a mission oriented Bond who isn't dragged down by personal demons and cynicism. While we may be getting further away from Fleming's Bond, the series does need to be refreshed. My preference is more in the style of Connery and his films but updated.

    While Judi Dench did transition well between two Bonds and two Bond timelines, I hope the producers don't choose to repeat that by bringing back Craig players.

  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    They need to move forward with Bond 26 being a new path for a new Bond, no Vesper callbacks or Craig Bond callbacks of any other kind. This is the consequence of allowing his Bond to die, you need to sweep it under the carpet and bring in the new timeline in fresh and free from baggage
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    QBranch wrote: »
    There's bound to be be a little wink or nod pop up, sure. A line of dialogue, an upgraded gadget. Keep the references subtle. Also, remember there was a bit of overlap from DAD to CR, such as the Seamaster Pro, P99, MI6 shield logo before dispensing with all of that come QOS. Likewise we may see a little Craig era overlap into Bond 7's era until it finds its own identity.

    Yeah, you even had Lindy Hemming and Brioni suits hanging over into CR before they found their own path a little more. Plus David Arnold etc. I wouldn't be too surprised if some personnel carried over into the next and that gave it a flavour of Craig's time to start with.
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