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Yeah, we do need some time to figure out who Quantum is, who its top operatives are, and eventually who its leader is. I wouldn't want Skyfall to close the book on Quantum, because the Quantum timeline would be all too short. Like SPECTRE, we probably need 6 movies to cover it!
Have to disagree here! First of all CR was all about LeChiffre and Bond's beginnings. Nobody had ever heard of Quantum? Not even their name for that matter! All we knew was that Mr White worked for someone else?
Quantum was established in 2008! So make that 4 years already! And really? Are you blaming MGM's financial crisis in the REAL world for you saying quantum was a failure as an organisation? If that had not happened i am sure we would have had a movie from DC persuing them 2 years ago before the upcoming movie!
Also when Spectre were around the films were coming out far more regular due to the success of the films and an actor making a name for himself and also a studio cashing in too!
I totally agree with you, in CR it was keeped mysterious and QOS the reveal felt like it was tacked on the end so they can explain why they chose that title, and I'm guessing Dan wrote that scene... Also Quantum was stupid, It would of been much better if they used Specter hell the splangled mob would do.... But tack something on a film at the last minute to make the title fit...... :(|)
Blofeld is the Moriaty to Bond's Homes, since four of the last five films have had dire villains, BOND NEEDS A MORIATY!!!!
I don't see Blofeld as Bond's Moriarty. Comparing the two insults Moriarty.
<font color=blue size=7> <b>The GF script is better than Fleming's novel.</b></font>
However Flemings style and prose are superiour to the script. And GF is in my view excellent reading for the beginner of Flemings writings, it is easy and well written. ANd I have nothing with Golf, but after reading GF I wanted to take it up as a sport, (the same with bridge in MR) that is how well the man can write a story.
GF the book for me.
Same here. Reading Fleming, I found new interests in life.
What I would've liked to have seen was SPECTRE be the organisation behind mr white and not quantum, but EON couldn't help that since they didn't own the rights back then. I would like to see blofeld return though, acting solo, and reimagined a bit so people don't think "hey its dr evil!"
It is a decent novel, that said quite a few writers would wish that they had written a novel as good as GF. But Fleming has written better novels. (No not city city bang bang)
:-))
The most controversial novel was probably LALD. The racism is quite shocking by todays standards - especially the title of chapter 7.
Which is bound to be edited in a future edition...
If they wanted to cut it I'm pretty sure they already would have.
Yeah, LALD was horrible to me. I didn't enjoy the racism and the plot was iffy. After reading the beautifully constructed CR, hardly anything will compare. CR was just a straight espionage novel, nothing more, nothing less. I hope the rest of Fleming's MR onward are like that. Can anyone enlighten me?
They get much more "flamboyant" as they go on. Not in the same vain as the films but nonetheless Fleming gets more and more imaginative. Dr No in particular is a lot of fun.
I always hear about the LALD novel being really racist but I haven't read it, was it really bad? I'm black and although the film had afew lines that were pushing on racist I found it ok, but I've never read the book
ahhhhh I see. Won't bother reading it then.
Yeah, stuff like that really ticks me off. I can see Fleming adding in some sexism. You know, women should please men first and foremost, blah blah. I just can't stand too much of that and especially not the racism. I know it was the 50s and the idea of equality was skewed, but it is jaw dropping to read some of that novel. Not only did the plot disappoint me, the novel does to Felix what LTK did. We get CR with Felix, then he gets gnawed on in LALD. Come on Fleming. Seriously? I don't know personally if Fleming was racist, but his novels tend to make him look it.
Many things that predate LALD has been edited just recently... So don't rule out the LALD novel being edited one day... just like the Connery intro scene from DN will have the cigarette edited out one day...
if the franchise stuck exactly to flemmings style then the films would've stopped long ago. I don't think being close to flemming matters that much anymore. His version of bond is pretty outdated, none of the bonds really look like book bond, I think the character has changed that much now that being close to flemming doesn't really matter
Reading GF isn't a dull experience per se but it has its rather disappointing moments which seem fairly 'fixed' in the film script. Also, I feel that the film's logic, especially towards the end, is slightly superior over the novel's logic.
This, however, is the only case of a somewhat faithful adaptation of the novel where I truly believe the script is an improvement.
The only other Bond movie that arguably improved on the novel was OHMSS. Having Blofeld kidnap Tracy at the end really raised the stakes for Bond.
Maibaum really is missed!