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Errrrrr DISAGREE!!!! Without question he is the original action hero for me! Super hero? no! Action hero? Yes!!!! Thats an easy thesis! ;)
<font color=blue size=7><b>If they ever go back to Quantum, they should do so within the Craig era.</b></font>
Thesis 211: absolutely. They don't need to finish it off, but it needs more of a fundamental base before someone else could take over with Quantom as foe.
Agree Agree Agree!!!! Without a doubt this should happen. I am hoping that Logan is incorporating them into Bonds 24 & 25? Therefore giving DC to put them to bed once and for all! Starting with Mr White! B-)
Therefore, going with thesis on this one
We had no SPECTRE in GF either, so it isn't that unusual.
Put the story to bed with one last film and never go back to it. Although I have to say, if Quantum is never mentioned again the only people who are going to remember them are the ones on this forum.
<font color=blue size=7><b>The stylish opening of the SF opening title sequence compensates for the lack of information about Bond's way of surviving.</b></font>
Instead we are left with an image of Bond falling some hundred feet into a river after being shot, then sinking beneath the waves. When we return, he has magically recovered and is even mid-coitus. It is nonsensical and stretches the suspension of disbelief. It is Skyfall's greatest missed opportunity.
Actually we see somebody grab his wrist and clothes, starting to pull him out of the water. (The normal sized hands, before the huge non-real one pulling him downwards appears.) I didn't feel further explanation was needed; he was helped out of the water, so obviously he was helped after that as well, not just left unconscious on the shore. Going over all that and his recovery over those 3 months was not necessary, IMO.
Let's see... I felt the beginning of the title sequence is, indeed, stylish, and I think it provides enough information about Bond's survival. So does that count as me agreeing with the thesis? :P Sorry, foreign language... Oh heck... You native speakers try and figure out what I'm trying to say, I'm confused by the word "compensates"... it's been a long day...
Is there really? Guess I'll have to rewatch the title sequence then. It still would be better shown outside the title sequence, or even having some cool, "Only James Bond" story behind it.
I agree. One thing has nothing to do with the other.
I dont really care that Bonds survival is not explained - he was washed up on the river bank, a Turkish peasant fished him out - we dont really need to know. What I find more annoying is the height of the fall is too much. If the bridge had been even just 33% lower I wouldnt have a problem but this just seems too high even though within the laws of phsyics it might just be survivable.
And even the fall is not the main thing. Hes already been shot by Patrice and then Eve puts a pretty high calibre round through him so by the time hes in the water he must be pretty shocking nick. Once hes survived all that, how he is fished out of the river is rather a moot point.
It's right before Adele sings the first words "This is the end..." The story of what's actually happening to Bond (physically) merges pretty much seamlessly into "the rabbit hole to the underworld" of the title sequence, and personally I liked that. Obviously it's a matter of taste and not everyone likes it.
The words "This is the end" mark the beginning of the actual title sequence with all the dream/nightmare/memories/death imagery... "I've drowned and dreamt this moment..." :)
Personally, I agree with this. It's a Bond movie and there is a certain fantasy element that you just have to roll with. That being said, there are more than a few people who have criticized this scene. A close friend of mine, who is just a casual Bond fan, said it about ruined the movie for him. So perhaps they went too far with this one just like the motorcycle jump in the PTS of GoldenEye.
Exactly. I feel some people have forgotten that they are watching a Bond film, and therefore forgot that they are expected to suspend some disbelief. Bond survived the fall. So what? We have seen a villain inflate and blow up into little pieces, a double-taking pigeon, countless world domination plots, glacier surfing, Bond riding a gondola through crowds, turning Japanese (not), diffusing bombs with literally no seconds to spare, diving off a cliff to get into a plane while in mid-air, and make it perfectly clear to those around him that he is a British agent and more, yet everyone gets up in arms about his fall over the bridge? REALLY?! I mean, come on folks. You can make the argument that because Dan's Bond is gritty and more realistic these outlandish events aren't allowed, but that doesn't change the fact that these are Bond films and include things that can only happen in Bond films, regardless of how realistic they are trying to be.
That's sort of what I was thinking... I first wrote I disagree, then thought about the thesis some more and wondered if I was reading the wording of it wrong and I agreed with it after all? :P
That makes perfect sense to me as well. :)
About the fall from the train: I agree with those who feel it's no big deal that Bond survives that. Yes, it's a bit extreme, but on the Bond scale it isn't, not really; it is just about within possibility unlike many other things in Bond movies. Also, there are actual incredible survival stories that seem unlikely, but are true. I mean Bond surviving that fall is not less realistic than some true stories.
Sorry to go off topic but what godawful gameplay that is.